Setting bike up for track day?

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Im doing my first ever track day next month (Hopp Rider Training @ Cadwell Park) and was wondering how best to set up my 2009 GSA in relation to ESA etc? Also, I've read of people having to tape up their headlights and removing their mirrors to avoid broken glass in the event of a spill. Is this necessary?
 
Drop your tyre pressure a few psi. It'll let them warm up a bit more and help them grip a bit better. I would think as the track is pretty smooth that fairly firm suspension will be best as it should stop the bike wallowing in the long fast bends.
Don't know about your esa settings as I have the old fashioned style suspension on mine.
I found mine handled pretty well going round the nurburgring but the tourances were complaining a bit after 4 laps. (The equivalent of 2 track day sessions @10 mins or so a lap)
Oh yeah take your panniers off. I didn't and I'm sure it knocked a bit off the top speed.
though the English guy on a fireblade that me and the missus overtook might have been a bit embarrassed.
A bit of insulating tape on your headlight and Indicators will keep them happy.
Take your mirrors off. You don't really need to worry about people behind you anyway just concentrate on where you're going.
 
Another reason for taping up or removing mirrors is the suggestion that you should be concentrating on going forwards, as the person behind is responsible for making a safe overtake and you shouldn't concern yourself with them.
I always leave my mirrors on.
Headlight? What about indicators? Screen? I wouldn't worry too much about them, unless the scrutineers at the circuit tell you to.
As said previously, drop tyre pressures slightly to compensate for the fact that they are going to warm up more than usual, stiffen the suspension slightly, to compensate for the fact that you will be working that a bit harder too.
Most of all, enjoy yourself! A well surfaced playground, (relatively) free of traffic, speed cameras, manholes, pedestrians and all the other day to day shite we have to put up with on today's roads!
Mark
 
Im doing my first ever track day next month (Hopp Rider Training @ Cadwell Park) and was wondering how best to set up my 2009 GSA in relation to ESA etc? Also, I've read of people having to tape up their headlights and removing their mirrors to avoid broken glass in the event of a spill. Is this necessary?

Is it a "track day" or a training day ? (You mention Martin Hopp.)
They will brief you & give you all the assistance you need, so just go along & enjoy it. They are a good bunch.
 
Watch out for the mountain. It'll make you do this.
You may also notice that my lights weren't taped up on this track day.

 
As long as your bike is well maintained and tyres are at the recommended pressures just ride it to the track, pass scrutineering doing whatever they want and just ride it. You don't need to change anything. Even on old tech. dual sport tyres like original Tourances you'll be able to get the pegs down, create impressive beads of molten rubber around the edge of the tread, drift the back end and learn to hang off the side to go even faster without leaning as much.

Once you are finding the pegs scraping regularly if you aren't riding to the sidewall of the tyres you might perhaps press a button to emulate adding preload and therefore raising the back of the bike a bit :D

GS's are a riot on tracks, they handle far, far better than anybody not in the know would imagine and will give a lot of more powerful bikes a real run for the money. Even better, if you over cook it and head into the gravel, get it upright, stand on the pegs and do a little off roading. Much more impressive than sliding across the gravel on your arse :)
 
As long as your bike is well maintained and tyres are at the recommended pressures just ride it to the track

Agreed.

Check oil - bring oil with you.
Check brake pads.
Checking tyres goes without saying...
Fill the tank at the last service station before the track.
Bring a footpump as you'll have to lower tyre pressure before entering the track and putting it back when leaving. Even though there will be a tyre guy on site most probably.
Bring some (healthy) food. A banana and/or some energy bars. Water.

I never removed mirrors from my bikes during trackdays. It is very true that you should concentrate on your driving and not who's behind, but as I'm not that fast, sometimes I check and let people pass in case.
Never taped the headlights/speedo too.
You don't normally have that much time to look at the speed anyway.

Seems like you are going for a training day, so the instructors will give you much better advice than we can, suspension-wise too ;)

Enjoy your trackday. It's gonna be a blast.
I think the GS at Cadwell will be a lot of fun.
 
Yes I guess its more of a training day than just blasting down the track. An air pump is a good idea, I need one anyway.
 
I've done five or six track days and never dropped tyre pressures. In fact, at the first one run by Neil Mackenzie (sp?) at Knockhill there was a session on tyres and suspension set up for those currently off track at which we were told that there is no need to change tyre pressures. They then went in to some detail about static sag blah blah blah and when asked by me did that relate to a GS they just laughed and said no, just ride it. So I did and was far from the slowest bike out there.
 
I have just had a look at their website, looks like the event in September is fully booked. I would have joined you if it was not
 
Hey Mr Bear!

I'll see you there on my recently acquired GSA (2010 spec). I know the Hopp rider guys and they're really friendly. There's also an instructor who I've only ever seen on a GSA so we can pick his brains :-) He normally spends most of his time on his back wheel or going around in full lock circles at a billion miles per hour.

It's only for road bikes so I don't think there is much need to strip mirrors of tape lights up. I think the most important part is making sure we're in shape more than the bike, i.e. keep hydrated and energised. There's a cafe on site for that.

I'm looking forward to it :-)
 
I've done five or six track days and never dropped tyre pressures.

To be honest, I'd agree. Firstly, as Martyn asks, is it a track day or a skills day? And if it is a track day, and it's your first ever track day, (with respect and meant in genuine spirit ..) you'll not need to drop your pressures. :thumb2


* Unless it's an absolutely scorching day, roasting hot high 80's and they move you into the intermediate group .... :D
 
Mr Bear. If this is your first time on track I wouldn't worry about all that tyre pressure and suspension setup malarky. The training day with Martin aka HRT is more about rider confidence and machine control. You'll learn how to skid the front wheel and recover. So I would rather spend time making sure how to turn the ABS and traction control off on a GS. The actual flat out time on track is limited as to what you get from say a normal track day. It is still a blast and worth doing. I will miss HRT but they have not done very well in the past few years and Martin is getting old. Pay attention in class, the guy is excellent in relaying his knowledge.

As for bike prep a few guys have given you some advice. Make sure the bike is in good mechanical condition. Take a bit of oil with you, the GS likes to burn a bit nearer the redline. Check tyre pressures before you go on track and tyre condition the week before you go to track, just in case you need a new set. Mirrors and lights don't matter with HRT. If you want to turn the main beam of just unplug it or look here for a short cut. That is basically all, oh and don't forget to take the panniers off. Handy for taking your kit to track but gets in the way on the corners.

Most important is the rider. He has to be in good condition for the day. Plenty of rest, little or no beer the evening before. Keep yourself hydrated during the day. You wouldn't notice it but it is hard work riding on track. Eat a little at a time and don't stuff it all in come lunchtime. You'll feel sluggish and loose concentration which can spoil your day and maybe the bikes as well. Relax and enjoy the time out on track. It is the safest place you'll ever ride your bike. Have fun you lucky bugger.

Check your kit over. A nice clean helmet is a good start. Smells nice after a wash. A proper fit is essential as most damage done to the body during a crash is to the head, hands and feet because of kit coming off. Take some waterproofs with you. Cadwell Park has its own thing about it.

The place is fantastic and one of my favourites. The only advice I can give you is take care at the Hairpin and Barns when the conditions are iffy, Charlie 2 you cannot see but turn in anyway on the crest from Charlie 1 then aim for the apex when you see it, make sure the bike is in a straight line when you hit the Mountain otherwise it will end in tears depending on how good you are.

Hopefully that mad man will be there on the GSA. David Hallsall is the man's name. A very good and experienced rider. I haven't seen him for a good while.
 
Tanneman,

+1.

What sensible and accurate advice! Spot on. Nothing to add to that…

Bear;

Cadwell's barking you'll have a ball. Just take it easy, pace yourself through the day, don't try to do it all at once, recognise when you're getting tired, drink plenty and finish on a tidy accurate lap with no dramas!

Fluff.
 
I set my ESA to rider + luggage when doing hrt days! just gives a bit more clearance, similar to upping the preload a bit. David has been on the last few hrt days I've been on, I think he drops a few psi, but he works his GSA harder than most. Have a great day.
 
Thanks for all the advice, much appreciated. I'm looking forward to the day, and it should be fun, but I'm mostly doing it to hopefully improve my road riding by gaining skills and confidence.

bbb, look forward to seeing you there :thumb2
 
MCN compared a R1200RT with a Suzuki RGV250 around a track (Castle Combe maybe). Both have about the same power to weight but of course the Beemer had no chance.

Both had virtually the same lap times. The RT's mass slowed it on chicanes but otherwise there was nothing to pick between them.
 


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