Shoei GT-Air Condensation problem

Colin1958

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Hi All,

I thought I'd try the wisdom of the collective before wasting money. . .

I switched to a Shoei GT-Air a couple of months ago, but since the cold/wet weather started I am suffering with condensation forming from my breath on the lower central part of the visor - right where the clocks are situated in my line of sight!

This sem-circular cloud grows in size the longer I ride, and after 30 minutes I have to stop and clean it off, or crash. I have the pinlock fitted, and it's not between the Pinlock and the visor - it's forming on the inside surface. I've used Pinlocks before and never had this problem, I even changed the Pinlock insert in case I had managed to strip the leading edge whilst riding with the visor up, but it's made no difference. I have ridden with and without the standard Shoei GT-Air breath guard, and that makes no difference either.

I have found that the airflow across the visor from the chin vent isn't all that great, but riding with the visor cracked open doesn't help either, and I don't really want it cracked open anyway.

So, I was planning on getting an air-mask 3 as this is supposed to divert the breath downwards - it's made for an X-Sprint, but from looking at it I think it will fit a GT-Air.

Does anyone have any experience with these?

The facts:

  • The bike is a GS1200
  • Airflow AF330 screen
  • Nippy Norman winglets
  • I have a big nose


I'd like to avoid suggestions of anti-fog sprays, Pinlock alternatives etc as I've tried them all, and I've been very happy with Pinlock up until buying this helmet.

Feel free to take the mickey though. . .
 
I have a simmilar problem with my GT Air and have been through all you describe but it still fogs a little now but my glasses steam up !

so i too now await the wisdom of the tosser federation !
 
Schtum said:
That explains why it doesn't happen to me with the same lid. Might I suggest that Sir considers rhinoplasty...? :)
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Good advice, but I simply can't find a plastic Rhino anywhere. . .
 
Different helmet but same issue in "sunny" Scotland when the temperatures are low single figures and it's raining., Solved with a Respro Foggy mask. Very effective.

foggy-mask-black__zoom.jpg
 
Packer said:
Different helmet but same issue in "sunny" Scotland when the temperatures are low single figures and it's raining., Solved with a Respro Foggy mask. Very effective.
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Having used both the Respro Foggy and the Oxford Huff, I prefer the Huff. It's a bit more robustly made and doesn't cling to your face in quite such a fetishist, suffocating manner. The Foggy reminds me a bit too much of having a general anaesthetic at the dentist's when I was a kid....

Oxford_Huff_Anti-Fog_Mask_Lg.jpg
 
Schtum said:
Oh c'mon Colin - everyone knows that you have to blow up a rhino's arse. :P
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Thanks for that Schtum - the image now imprinted on my retina will pass with time according to my optician. According to my psychiatrist it will stay with me for EVER. . .

Thanks to all responders - I have decided to suck it and see (the air mask 3 not the rhino) and have ordered one. I will report back. The foggy & huff look like contenders if the mask fails.
 
Just to complicate your choice of sucky-sucky object a wee bit more, I see there's now an Air Mask 4 as well..... :)

shoei_breath_air-mask-4.jpg
 
OK, I fitted the air mask 3 and went out for a wet ride.

It did not work, and I had to pull over after 5 miles to remove it. It basically caused the entire top half of the visor to cloud over and when I opened the visor to clear it and dropped down the internal sun visor, that was completely opaque, with so much water on it, it started to drip.

I think that the problem here is that the Shoei GT-Air, despite its name, is very poorly ventilated. I will try another wet trip when I get the time, and will remove the chin curtain to see if I can get more air into the helmet.
 
Hi guys
Also have the GT air and have had the same problem, I ended up using a small socket on the pinlock cams to tighten them a natts further, cant give them much with them being plastic but it has improved it, i do get a very small semi circle form just left of centre but its only thumb nail size now. The visors are much softer than the old ones and i don't think they seal as well with the pinlocks. I end up riding with the visor cracked open, until its forced shut at speed. Bring back the old Shoei vent clip that let air in just a trickle.


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I had exactly the same issue on my GSA with Givi Airflow 330, I think in my case there simply wasn't enough airflow getting to the helmet so condensation like a very fine mist would form inside the visor resulting in me not being able to see a damn thing! not even the top vents were effective, I could ride at 110+ with my visor fully open no wind blast whatsoever, There were no issues using the same lid on my R1.
 
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