showing mileage when planning routes

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I'm still very much struggling with basecamp...possibly cause I'm a bit thick.

Anyway, couple of things if anyone can help me.

1. When plotting a route is it possible (as it is with mapsource ) to be able to display the mileage and estimated time travelled ?

2. When plotting a route, if I edit and delete a section that I've just done, then go back the routeing tool starts as a new route rather than go back to the point I was at. Is it possible to set it up for the routing tool to go to the point before the edit ?

Most grateful for any help.

To be honest I'm on the verge of selling my Nav V and going back to the 660 so I can use mapsource.

I'm sure Basecamp is better but it just appears to be beyond my capabilities.
 
When you have the route done - or even part way..

Double click on route:
PC slightly different to Mac

Mac - click on Blue "i" (info) tab
PC shows it in same window

Re routing tool - I find that if I set up waypoints first - I can then drag them into a list/route...
I can then "shape" the route with shaping tool and they dont alert - either over or around a road or section
 

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Thanks Newboy.

Got the mileage and estimated time up. I'll have a go with the routeing.
 
Thanks Newboy.

Got the mileage and estimated time up. I'll have a go with the routeing.

Routing is very easy in BaseCamp, once you've twigged that when you switch away from the Routing arrow and back again, it starts a new route.

Simplest way is as follows, from memory so don't shoot me... On a Mac but I guess a PC might be similar.

(1) Turn off (or keep) all the software's routing preferences. I turn it all off as it removes one possible variable.

(2) Click on your start point

(3) Click on the hand button and drag the map / zoom in and out etc

(4) Click on the end point, the magenta route appears

(5) If it suits you, job done

(6) If it doesn't use the arrow routing button to pull the route about. There is a bit of a knack to this but once learned it's very easy

(7) Change the waypoints to shaping points, if you want to. Job done.

There are other ways, too.

For instance you can use the up, down, left, right commands / keys to move the map and not use the hand at all. Or you could stitch the separate route segments together. It really is very versatile and quite powerful software. Be patient and it will reward you.
 
Quote (2. When plotting a route, if I edit and delete a section that I've just done, then go back the routeing tool starts as a new route rather than go back to the point I was at. Is it possible to set it up for the routing tool to go to the point before the edit ?) How are you editing and deleting the section, are you using mac or pc?. on my pc this does not happen. i left click on new route tool, then left click any point on map, go to another point on map (any) left click and a route will appear, i would then go to edit, its at the top left of the main window, left click it and then select undo by left clicking it, and you will see the route dissapear if you move the mouse pointer back onto the screen your black route line from the tip of the route tool should appear with a line to your first point. you then can restart from the same place and this will happen from any point not just the first. in other words it only goes back 1 point at a time, for each section you want to undo repeat the action again. try it and get back to let us know if it worked.
 
2. When plotting a route, if I edit and delete a section that I've just done, then go back the routeing tool starts as a new route rather than go back to the point I was at. Is it possible to set it up for the routing tool to go to the point before the edit ?

Leave the routing tool active (the pencil with the black line), then to edit a route (eg delete the last points in the route) double click on the route name in the lower LH panel and it will open the route properties. Highlight and delete the points you don't want. When you move the cursor back on to the map it will still be in routing mode and you can start adding more to the route. An alternative is to go ahead and create a new route, then open route properties, highlight all the points, 'copy' then paste these onto the end of your original route.

You seem to be using a 'jump from point to point' route method which is fine in some circumstances (eg. when making a circular route) but it will probably create a route with loads of unnecessary routing points if the route is a long one. A quicker way is to place (true) waypoints at your start and end points, and let Basecamp calculate the fastest route between these. Then drag and drop the route onto the roads you want to ride. Start somewhere in the middle of the route and work out towards the start and finish and you'll find you can create long routes without using lots of shaping points. A quick way to drag n drop is to change the cursor to 'hand' mode (so can drag the map around on screen), move the hand over the active route, then hold down the ALT key whilst pressing the L mouse. The hand changes temporarily into the pencil (routing) tool with straight black lines either side. Keep the L mouse button down as you move the pencil onto the road you want. Let go and it drops a via point and the route recalculates. It sounds complicated in writing but in reality is quick and fast. Use the hand to drag the map around, use the mouse scroll wheel to zoom in and out. To edit the route either double click on it's name in the LH panel or R-click on it, then 'open'. The double click will make the map zoom out to show the entire route which is sometimes a pain if you have zoomed in on a specific section. R-click, 'open' does not change the map zoom.

BTW, ignore the suggestions to use Mapsource to create routes for the Nav V as you'll find odd things happen with shaping points - you'll get flags and announcements of each one. In Basecamp, if you open route properties you'll see that most shaping points are light grey text and have '(won't alert)'. Any that are solid black text WILL alert, and you can change them by R-lick 'don't alert'. To change the properties of multiple points in a route just use SHIFT or CTRL and L-click to select multiple points.

One final tip: when you come to ride the route, if you are not actually at the start point the Nav V will ask where you want to go to. Select the FIRST waypoint; if you select the end point the Nav V will calculate a fastest route to the end point and not use your carefully crafted route.

And one more final tip (!): only use 'fastest' as the settings for calculating planned routes in Basecamp and on the Nav V. If you use 'shortest' or 'curvy' the route on the Nav V will almost certainly be different to the one you planned on the PC

Persevere with Basecamp because the Nav V works properly with routes created in Basecamp, whereas you'll find problems with routes planned purely in Mapsource. Basecamp also has one huge advantage over Mapsource: you can import all your routes and tracks etc. into 'lists' (an individual route file) and you can organise your lists (ie routes) into folders (eg country and year) and they are all available to view/copy/re-use without the hassle of having to open each individual file in a separate Mapsource window.
 


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