Simple, NO COST servo removal of 1150 IABS system

Very good idea! Thanks.

Ah...it would also be a good place for a rostra cruise control servo box....

Remember yours is an RS and think how long does it take you to get to that undertank spot ??


Perhaps move the battery into the forward spot and fit gadgetry behind it in the vacant battery spot (Remember your cables are on the underside in the cable box before you start pulling the cradle out, if you are thinking of just spinning it around!)

Access will still be a bit restricted in the RS but at least you won;t have to remove panels and tank etc to get in to check stuff
 
Last year I decided to do something with the empty space on my 1150GS.
A smaller battery, which I still had in reserve from my 1200 RnineT, was placed transversely so I didn't have to adjust the battery cabling.
Replace the fuel tank bolt with an easily accessible pin.
The room now contains an Airman compressor and tools to repair punctures.
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I have a 2003 R1150RT. I did the servoectomy and my general warning light is flashing at 4 Hz. The manual says this is low fluid level. The were 2 connectors for fluid level in the ABS, but I think I was supposed to leave those loose, correct? Do I just need to remove this light?
 
I have a 2003 R1150RT. I did the servoectomy and my general warning light is flashing at 4 Hz. The manual says this is low fluid level. The were 2 connectors for fluid level in the ABS, but I think I was supposed to leave those loose, correct? Do I just need to remove this light?
Yes just remove the light blue relay (ABS) in the fuse box and remove the bulb or bulbs in the dash

depending how your MOT person is? Remove the sensors and tone rings and if they ask you replaced the FD with an ABS one as you need to leave the speed sensor in to seal it up !
 
Another thanks for this thread. After 20 years, the ABS started, to use a technical term, buggering me about big time, so it had to go. About 2 hours all in. Would have been a bit less had the bolt that holds the splitter at the front not welded itself into the frame and snapped off. There's always something...
 
Couldn't get brake lights to work off ECU brain so wired original micro switches in series to 5 pin relay and wired straight to stop lamp. Simple and inexpensive if any one else ends up in this particular corner. Rode it today and everything seems to work well enough to remind me of why I bought it in the first place. Thanks to everyone who helped push my repairs in the right direction.
Can you please post some photos of what you did and how you did this. Thanks
 
Go and read the first post in the thread

Also post 195 is an easier way to do it Which is linked in the first post
Okay so there has been much talk of the "new" method, it has actually been around for quite a while!

I can claim no credit for this procedure and my apologies for schite photos it wasn't meant to be a process I just figured (when I was halfway through removing one for a mate) it was time folks stopped cutting their wiring looms and causing themselves grief

Why use it over the original first post ?? Okay whilst I did use that method a couple of times and it is fine it leaves a weak point in the wiring

Its "basically" the same process for any of the bikes with servo ABS the 1200 Hexhead bikes have no blue relay to "pull" and the GS has surface mount LED for warning lights so all you do is remove bulbs from the panels (or in the GS case paint the LED with black nail polish and/or the warning indicator cut out )

Its simple I snip the pipes with a decent pair of diagonal cutters Basically it seals the pipes and prevents fluid spillage as you lift the unit out

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the electronics plug is removed by extending the slide lock and lifting up Careful you need this to refit so don't break it! :rob

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This is the bit that you need I cut the wires already I very much doubt anyone will ever have enough money to refit the ABS pump section and fear that they "might" wear through on components in the electronics You could fill the box with silicone and embed them Basically whatever floats your boat!

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the are 4 connections from the electronics box and two from the ABS unit

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A standard UK front or rear number plate cut to length is almost perfect for sealing the electronics box up

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This sounds good but does not help the no brake light issue. I have the same ABS unit you have pictured.
 
This sounds good but does not help the no brake light issue.
Yes it does (should), because retaining the ABS/Servo ECU retains standard operation of the tail/brake lights. I followed this approach a couple of months ago and it worked just fine - no wiring changes required.
 
This sounds good but does not help the no brake light issue. I have the same ABS unit you have pictured.
Okay so have you checked the bulb and connections etc etc before you go down the line of snipping wires?

Remember Servo ABS are normally closed switches and break contact with the ECU to switch on the brake lamp
 
I tap the electronics box and use short M5 screws with a smear of sealant on the faces just prior to bolting up (Obviously try not to get swarf in the box!! and if you do? Just blow it clear

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two smaller bits of plate are also need to cover the side recesses and the white tape was just there to hold them in place whilst the sealer dried

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Then you plug it back into the loom and refit it to the bike Its probably not necessary but I use something to dampen vibrations in this case a small bit of closed cell packaging foam

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the two small wires are the brake fluid level connections and get a small smear of sealer to keep the water out and secured during the refit

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That is it apart from re-piping and bleeding the brakes as per normal "non-abs" bikes and removing the remaining bulb from the instrument panel and pulling the blue relay in the fuse box

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Good luck and Be sensible out there!!!

P.S. I usually fit much softer rear pads Sintered ones have very little "feel" with them when you move from Servo to standard braking again Ferodo Platinums have a decent "feel" after the servo is gone
Can I assume, nothing worse than an assumption :rolleyes: , that I can remove / cut the wires from the ABS sensors, without any detrimental effect?
 
Oops sorry. 1150GS
The job has taken me longer than it should have, as I've cleaned years of congealed muck from the battery / servo area. When I bought the bike nearly 20 years ago, I slathered Waxoyl under the tank, and in most places not normally seen. Over the years I added to the mess by spraying ACF50 over it as well.
 
The job has taken me longer than it should have, as I've cleaned years of congealed muck from the battery / servo area. When I bought the bike nearly 20 years ago, I slathered Waxoyl under the tank, and in most places not normally seen. Over the years I added to the mess by spraying ACF50 over it as well.
and everything below the mess is lovely and shiny Yaaaay
 
The job has taken me longer than it should have, as I've cleaned years of congealed muck from the battery / servo area. When I bought the bike nearly 20 years ago, I slathered Waxoyl under the tank, and in most places not normally seen. Over the years I added to the mess by spraying ACF50 over it as well.
First ride without the servo.

Seemed odd not seeing the lights for the ABS on start up.

Front brake seemed a bit weak compared to having the servo, but the rear brake is not being used at the same time.

Rode 50 miles, got used to the front brakes, they're fine.

I expected the rear brake to be rubbish, as I'd fitted new sintered pads before the servo played up. Read on here that organic is better. Slow riding, yes a bit weak, but, not only sintered, but probably having to bed in to my slightly lipped rear disc. Out on the open road, I was very surprised at how effective it is. This is before it's properly bedded in, the caliper was in between warm and hot, which is (to me) fairly normal till it beds in. Maybe the difference between slow riding and being on the open road, was that I didn't mind applying a lot of pressure when riding at normal speed.

So, all in all I am a happy bunny.

I won't be missing the whine of the servo when stopped on a hill.
Without this site, I have no idea what I would have done. (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y):beerjug::bow:thumb:bounce1
 
The brake failure I had on holiday was terminal as I expected - fried circuit board in the ABS ECU.

Yesterday I performed a 'servoectomy' and have decided to post the procedures in case it helps anyone else in a similar situation.
The servo removal and reconnection of pipework and electrics was carried out using existing parts only - it has cost me absolutely nothing apart from time and a few consumables.

Start with removal of the servo system itself together with redundant metal pipework - been documented on here numerous times and is relatively straightforward.
Reconnect the rear brake hose directly to the top of the master cylinder using the domed hex head brake fitting

Remove both flexible hoses and both rigid metal pipes from the front distribution piece,
Remove distribution piece - you will notice a small 'tag' on the reverse which locates against the frame and effectively fixes the orientation of the bracket.
By grinding/filing off this tag it is possible to realign the distribution piece as per the attached photograph and connect the two flexible hoses together using the existing connectors in the top metal socket (the one with two holes the same size).

That's the brakes reconnected - now bleed and sort the electrics to give you a brake and tail light again.

This is a piece of proverbial despite what others may have written about it - you dont even need any extra parts !!

1) Remove the blue ABS relay from the fusebox. This will extinguish the 'Brake Failure' warning light on the dash and as a bonus can be used to operate the brake light !! (no need for new switches as in other methods )
2) Strip back the sheathing from the ABS multi pin connector - identify wires and connect as follows
a) Grey/White wire (tail light feed) Grey/Black wire (12v feed) cut both and join together - thats your tail light sorted.
b) White/Yellow wire (front brake switch) and Yellow/Green wire (rear brake switch). Cut these two wires and join them to link brake switches
Now the wiring to the redundant 4 pin ABS relay
c) Pin 1 - Connect white/blue wire
d) Pin 2 - connect the THIN solid brown wire in the loom to provide a ground ( careful here - there are several brown wires c/w coloured traces and a Thick brown wire)
e) Pin 3 - Find the Yellow/Black wire and the solid green wire. Cut and connect these together and then to pin 3 of the relay
f) Pin 4 - Connect grey/yellow (tail light feed) to this pin

That all there is to it - you now have working brakes and lights.

I tidied things up by cutting and isolating all remaing wires on the ABS plug.

I have located the relay on the back of the battery under the seat so it can easily be changed if needed,

May consider fitteng some braided steel lines in due course, but for now, the bike is up and running, without any cost or waiting for parts - this may just help someone 'in the field' in the future :thumb2

Dave H

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Alternative less invasive method is available with Pictures @ post 195 here
I copied your idea for the front brake line......ground off the tag and turned the splitter and it worked excellent.
Deleted my ABS by leaving the ecu In place and tying it with cable ties.
I bought a cover plate from motorworks for the ecu and it made a cracking finish for the job, so that's all it cost me........just been out on the bike and its so much better.
Feels safer, 3kg lighter, no annoying wizzy noises, and brakes don't grab and feel very good with a normal brake feel.
So pleased I done it and thanks for your tips.
 


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