Sluggish oh yes ;)

Got my starter motor replaced around 72,000 miles (2010 GSA). Sluggish to start & would not start when hot - had to wait for the temp to drop before it would fire, so just got it replaced & no probs since.
 
My old Hex GSA was always reluctant (slow) to turn over when hot. Allowing it to cool improved cranking ease. That said, it never let me down.

I cleaned the motor and regreased the starter gearing which helped, but I suspect the winding insulation slowly breaks down over time and successive heat cycles.

I’d wager an armature rewind and new brushes would improve things greatly.
 
Good result, was it fairly straightforwrd to install?
Depending on model year & starter type = level of difficulty / time

06 Hexhead

Valeo (long) Bosch (short) starter

2 bolts - starter to engine case, 1 spade connector to starter solenoid , 1 Nut to starter solenoid +Ve

Tools needed 1 T45 spline socket, 2 or 3 extension bars i used a long & a short (preferably with wobble ends)

Torque wrench 19Nm - but check for your bike / model

The plastic cover can be stiff to remove, but once out its easier to replace remove , Its a bit of a wiggle twist to get the longer starter units out, the shorter ones are easier

Make sure the locating dowel stays either in the engine block or starter , & isn't missing - mine stayed in the engine block ;)


11 Twin cam

Bosch (short) starter

2 bolts - starter to engine case, 1 spade connector to starter solenoid , 1 Nut to starter solenoid +Ve

Tools needed 1 T45 spline socket, 1 T40 spline socket 2 or 3 extension bars i used a long & a short (preferably with wobble ends)

Torque wrench 19Nm - but check for your bike / model

The plastic cover can be stiff to remove, but once out its easier to replace remove , Its a bit of a wiggle twist to get the short one moving

I also removed the exhaust rear can to give me a bit more room - be aware the banjo clamp nut assys are crudded up and invariably the nuts shear

I replaced with OEM, but TBH any nut and bolt system could be used - providing you can get the old one out


According to Real OEM & The mothership, only the Bosch unit was fitted to the TC's

The longer units - Valeo (definitely) & Arrowhead (should) fit - I tried the Valeo it fitted .

They are offered as alternative spares from Motorworks

The TC's have the addition of the flapper servo to remove, but its only one T40 Spline

Removal / replacement is the same as above

Id you use a refurb / different motor to the Bosch unit , the Bosch plastic cover cant be reused

The Valeo has about 5mm clearance from the Servo box, whereas the Bosch unit has about 100mm

If you add additional starter& earth cables, the routing for the +Ve cable is tight by the servo connector, so needs a bit of teasing to get the servo connector plug attached / routed


First time took me about 3-4hrs taking my time

2nd time done in about an hour
 
Just replaced my battery with a Motobatt MBYZ16HD (Black) from Motorworks Via eBay (free postage and same price £79.90)
it replaced an Odyssey Extreme PC535 which has a production date of 09-13...so yes thats 11years old! but a hell of a difference in price!
 
So battery should be here tomorrow (y)
New phone purchased but delivery delayed (n)

Car failed MOT (n) But failure was due to the cause of the knocking (y)

So it needs Two ARB bushes and a front wheel bearing

The Bushes are cheap the FWB, comes as a complete unit so not cheap, but not eye watering expensive

Booked in for January (y)
 


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