So I've got my ultimate ear monitors...

[bigchris]

...and the buggers are well'ard to get in my noggin.

The right one especially so, it feels like its gonna pop out the other side. I've even taken the liberty to 'see my missus at work' and ask one of her audiologist pals about em. Her response was that she'd never seen out so 'pokey in yer earey'.

Is it meant to extend THAT far into the ear canal? Its like going in a good 15mm!

 

[judge]

...and the buggers are well'ard to get in my noggin.

The right one especially so, it feels like its gonna pop out the other side. I've even taken the liberty to 'see my missus at work' and ask one of her audiologist pals about em. Her response was that she'd never seen out so 'pokey in yer earey'.

Is it meant to extend THAT far into the ear canal? Its like going in a good 15mm!

They don't go 'in' any further than the impression taking material did

How did you get on with them?

They will take some getting used to especially as you probably won't have put a plug that far in before.

You are following red spot = right ear, blue spot = left

There is a difference between poor fit and not used to them weird/odd sensation. Give them a go and if things don't improve then get back in touch with customer services and they will work with you to get them right.

 

[bigchris]

well funny you mention that. the impressions had this little foamy bit on the end (and now they dont), and did feel ok whilst setting. But bugger me, getting them out was a sod and a half!!

As for the blue/red dots yes I got them lined up, because I have to admit, I couldnt work out from the impressions which was which..

I'll see if I can stick it out, but at this rate I cant even begin to image whacking my helmet on, given I cant even have them in for a minute currently.

 

[judge]

The 'foamy bit' is inserted first into the ear as far into the ear as we want the impression material to go (and ensures it goes no further). When set they moulds are removed and the foamy bit is intact with the rest of the mould.

To produce the cast from the mould from which the finished product is made they are chopped up a bit and the foamy bit removed.

That said they should fit without discomfort and the difference in a perfect fit and an uncomfortable one is a minute amount of material - fear not if they do need adjustment this will be done as swiftly as possible the technicians will need some info from you to determine what adjustment may be necessary.

 

[bigchris]

you're a good man!

 

[Dave Ford]

...and the buggers are well'ard to get in my noggin.

The right one especially so, it feels like its gonna pop out the other side. I've even taken the liberty to 'see my missus at work' and ask one of her audiologist pals about em. Her response was that she'd never seen out so 'pokey in yer earey'.

Is it meant to extend THAT far into the ear canal? Its like going in a good 15mm!

Tried mine for the first time yesterday - seriously impressed. Music from ipod was perfectly audible at 100mph and wind noise suppression was excellent.

Admittedly, inserting them is difficult at first. You’ll know when you’ve got them in correctly as everything goes quiet! They can also feel a little strange, but only temporarily.

I guess my main concern is that the wires are very thin and could be prone to breaking at the point they enter the plugs. But overall, top pieces of kit. Autocom and Zumo next….

 

[pablo666]

Ditto for me. I got mine two days ago, use them once with the Autocom/Zumo set up. Works perfectly.
Very happy with them.

(Do feel strange at first and take a bit of getting used to. It does take a while to get them properly inserted at first.)

HTH

 

[Dave Ford]

Ditto for me. I got mine two days ago, use them once with the Autocom/Zumo set up. Works perfectly.
Very happy with them.

(Do feel strange at first and take a bit of getting used to. It does take a while to get them properly inserted at first.)

HTH

Could you briefly describe your Autocom/Zumo set up, as this is the way I want to go? My understanding is that Autocom supply a helmet "harness" that includes mike and speakers though like you I'll want to use the monitors in place of the speakers. I'll also need to connect the mobile through Bluetooth, but understand that this shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks

 

[judge]

Could you briefly describe your Autocom/Zumo set up, as this is the way I want to go? My understanding is that Autocom supply a helmet "harness" that includes mike and speakers though like you I'll want to use the monitors in place of the speakers. I'll also need to connect the mobile through Bluetooth, but understand that this shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks

You've got the monitors so you're correct in not needing the helmet speakers, so you can purchase your Autocom with the speaker-less set up, you still get the microphone boom and loom and the headset with the junction box which the monitors plug in to.

Alternatively you can buy the regular Autocom kit and cut off the speakers and purchase in addition the part 1187 or 1188 (coiled or straight version) headset lead.

My Zumo is connected to my Autocom using a part 1299 which takes care of microphone and speaker capabilties and my phone is bluetoothed into the Zumo.

If I were to want the Autocom to handle muting sound for the phone then I'd need in addition the bluetooth dongle from Autocom because the Autocom cannot differentiate the phone over the voice prompts/built-in MP3 player. As it is I have volumes set that allow a mix I can listen to and when I speak the other inputs mute anyway.

Sorry this stuff isn't straightforward - it just isn't. And I sell the stuff!!

 

[pablo666]

You've got the monitors so you're correct in not needing the helmet speakers, so you can purchase your Autocom with the speaker-less set up, you still get the microphone boom and loom and the headset with the junction box which the monitors plug in to.

Alternatively you can buy the regular Autocom kit and cut off the speakers and purchase in addition the part 1187 or 1188 (coiled or straight version) headset lead.

My Zumo is connected to my Autocom using a part 1299 which takes care of microphone and speaker capabilties and my phone is bluetoothed into the Zumo.

If I were to want the Autocom to handle muting sound for the phone then I'd need in addition the bluetooth dongle from Autocom because the Autocom cannot differentiate the phone over the voice prompts/built-in MP3 player. As it is I have volumes set that allow a mix I can listen to and when I speak the other inputs mute anyway.

Sorry this stuff isn't straightforward - it just isn't. And I sell the stuff!!

What he said
Judge and GSRich are the one's for advice

 

[Pukmeister]

I've had mine a couple of years now and the initial fit was uncomfortable but you do get used to them. I've since had them repaired/replaced as the rubber insulation on the cables became frayed where they met the moulded monitors, the new cable insulation is more like hard vinyl than rubber so I hope they last.

When inserting and removing the monitors, I find if I start them off at almost 90 degrees offline rather than square on and sort of 'corkscew' them into my ear canal with a twisting motion, they go in and out much more easily and without causing discomfort. If I hold them square and try to push them in it hurts a little. Maybe its just the particular shape of my ear canal maybe?

I think over time your ear canal gets used to them and the discomfort gets better, I remember thinking the same as you do about the feel of them when I first got mine.

 

[judge]

When inserting and removing the monitors, I find if I start them off at almost 90 degrees offline rather than square on and sort of 'corkscew' them into my ear canal with a twisting motion, they go in and out much more easily and without causing discomfort. If I hold them square and try to push them in it hurts a little. Maybe its just the particular shape of my ear canal maybe?

Indeed that is exactly how to insert them especially as most people have a significant turn in their ear canal, you need to get the plug to go around the corner and corck-screwing is the way to achieve this.

So with the pointy narrow bit facing terra firma insert the plug into the ear and screw the plug backwards (away from your face). Equally to remove them place your finger at the top most point of the plug and push back the outer part of the ear (the ear flap) to break the seal, then moving to the front un-hook the plug. Once un-hooked at the front holding the plug front and back a twisting motion forwards through 90 degrees will free the plug.

Just remember its backwards to fit and forwards to remove and that's the same both sides.

Mine are both short and fairly straight so I missed out on all this fun until I started my training, having Shrek on the team sure helps you see how some people's ears are so different to your own

 

[Major Gadget]

I also found that if you wet them with saliva they go in a lot easier.

 

[miles away]

read somewhere on here that saliva is really not advised........ apparently people get ear infections and stuff from doing this. personally, i used to use saliva on my foam plugs to get them to fit. never been a problem for me..... yet!

 

[judge]

The use of the saliva increases the chances of infection - mouth germs and ears are not a great combination. A well fitting and finshed ear plug should require no artificial stimulant to ensure a good fit.

 

[davedyer]

read somewhere on here that saliva is really not advised........ apparently people get ear infections and stuff from doing this. personally, i used to use saliva on my foam plugs to get them to fit. never been a problem for me..... yet!

The use of the saliva increases the chances of infection - mouth germs and ears are not a great combination. A well fitting and finshed ear plug should require no artificial stimulant to ensure a good fit.

I've been wetting my foam plugs for the last 10 years with no problems. Not had to since using Ultimate Ears, though. Anyway, I thought saliva had antiseptic properties - isn't that why animals lick their wounds?

I found that pulling the top of the ear up as you push the plugs in helps.

 

[pablo666]

The use of the saliva increases the chances of infection - mouth germs and ears are not a great combination. A well fitting and finshed ear plug should require no artificial stimulant to ensure a good fit.

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