Simon_h
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my next jacket will be an armas...I already wear the armas trousers. My concern was that it would be too hot in the summer so was going to get it late autumn.
Spidi - nice suit, probably, we may never know
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I was assured when I bought it it had a workable temperature up to the high 30's....I wasn't convinced.
I wanted the suit for a trip to the Ukraine, where temperatures can hit the 40's (my previous trip was to the Balkans, and the temperatures went into the 40's...but I was in a 2 piece leather suit!!!)
However the suit coped brilliantly as the temperatures rose, and really only had to unzip the jacket a little occassionaly whilst riding. Even walking about in the hot sun wasn't anywhere near as bad as you'd imagine.
It really was quite amazing! In leathers I'd have fried!(i know from the Balkans experience!). And I've also got to admit that I wasn't keen on textile suits, but this one won me over.
I think for the UK the Armas is an all-round all-year jacket, because high 30's temperatures aren't an issue. Even in the summer sun it'll perform a lot better than you'd imagine as the temperatures are well within it's 'working range'.
It is a lot of money....but it is very very good.
Simon_h
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is it just that the inside doesn't get hot due to the teflon coating or is it well ventilated? Any negatives?
OscarIndia
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Sure this is right, but I'm not paying £1400 for a bike suit. No way. Not unless it makes me 6' 6" and adds three inches to my cock.
Simon_h
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My armas trousers are £700 in this country but I got them for just over £400 from louis.de in Germany. As soon as I get another 'single item 30% off' voucher (which they send out occasionally for being a member of their club) I'll buy the jacket.
The trick is this , but will not stop you getting sweaty in an humid/hot environment.Rukka is using it on fabrics.
The TFL COOL SYSTEM is based on a sun reflective technology whereby energy is reflected in the invisible part of the solar spectrum. It consists of a range of selected dyes and pigments, namely SELLA COOL dyes and RODA COOL pigments.
The TFL COOL SYSTEM is the first system offered to the leather industry which is able to restrict the rise of temperature on the leather surface when coloured leather is exposed to solar radiation. The most significant effect can be reached with black and dark shades, for which the temperature reduction is as much as 25°C.
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Originally Posted by OscarIndia
Spidi spent feck knows what on a double page spread ad for the 365 suit in this month's various glossy bike mags, but you can't actually try one anywhere.
Fail.
Rukka is the same, the only way you could get a jacket ( Lancelot model) to try on, is by purchasing one. I did get one eventually, but was hard work...
Ref. outer fabric been water proof, this lot http://www.p2i.com/history developed a way to proof fabric for military application . I recon Gore Tex will have a problem in the future if this application is picked up by the major's.
Originally Posted by OscarIndia
Spidi spent feck knows what on a double page spread ad for the 365 suit in this month's various glossy bike mags, but you can't actually try one anywhere.
Fail.
Rukka is the same, the only way you could get a jacket ( Lancelot model) to try on, is by purchasing one. I did get one eventually, but was hard work...
Ref. outer fabric been water proof, this lot http://www.p2i.com/history developed a way to proof fabric for military application . I recon Gore Tex will have a problem in the future if this application is picked up by the major's.
The temperature control is aided by the Cool Black material and the Outlast lining. It can even feel cool as you slip it on on a hot day.
The cost of them can be reduced by buying in Germany (but no uk warranty) or by getting it from The Motorcycle Clothing Centre who'll give you 10% off.
Also, buying the Unit trousers saves a few pounds, and these are adequate, and I've heard the ceramic pads on the knees of the Armas trouser can rub on tank surfaces.
I honestly haven't got any negatives of it really....only the price I guess! Some moan of the Lockout wip....but I've had no problems with it at all. I think if you use the lock 'clamp' every time it's ok.
The other big positive for me was the many pockets it has....all waterproof so far!
As for wanting it to enhance your manhood for the price!.....it's worth the money!....the BMW suit isn't in my view!! It'll last for years, and you'll be reluctant to get rid of it, rather than waiting to spend your money on something better that's come out that's better than what you've already bought.
A really top rated jacket in my opinion.
The cost of them can be reduced by buying in Germany (but no uk warranty) or by getting it from The Motorcycle Clothing Centre who'll give you 10% off.
Also, buying the Unit trousers saves a few pounds, and these are adequate, and I've heard the ceramic pads on the knees of the Armas trouser can rub on tank surfaces.
I honestly haven't got any negatives of it really....only the price I guess! Some moan of the Lockout wip....but I've had no problems with it at all. I think if you use the lock 'clamp' every time it's ok.
The other big positive for me was the many pockets it has....all waterproof so far!
As for wanting it to enhance your manhood for the price!.....it's worth the money!....the BMW suit isn't in my view!! It'll last for years, and you'll be reluctant to get rid of it, rather than waiting to spend your money on something better that's come out that's better than what you've already bought.
A really top rated jacket in my opinion.
Another thumbs up for the Armas. I ride my bike every day, don't own a car and I have to say I balked at paying for the Rukka suit. However, I got a great deal from bikerland.de. Even though it was still just over £1000 for the suit, I think it's the best piece of bike gear I've ever owned and last year commuting in the pouring rain every day I was warm, dry and after an hour hanging up the suit was dry again.
See it's not just me!
Agree the waterproof quality is great! A quick shake and the majority of it's gone, then fully dry very quickly.
Cant be doing with this three layer bollocks got rukka armas last year brilliant i know the price looks scary but my previous rukka suit is ten years old and my mate is still using it if you buy quality you only buy it once.
The Spidi Expedition gets a good write up in this months Ride magazine.....but at £1,000 for the suit I'd still go for the Armas.
I think after several suits I have found the perfect solution. Have a Rukka SRO suit and a Rukka Allroad suit (both bought second hand). Have removed the armour from both jackets and bought a Forcefield top half armour thingy with chest, back, elbows and shoulders armour. On my yearly European trip I take the Forcefield and wear all the time, if cold or wet I put the SRO jacket over the top (with no armour, folds up really small in a pannier), if hot, just wear the Forcefield. Swap between SRO & Allroad trousers depending on the weather. Get some funny looks when just wearing Forcefield armour so may buy a motorcross shirt to go over it. Works for me.
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OscarIndia
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Well, an interesting update to this one...
Spidi's marketing guy in Italy put me onto a Spidi dealer near me (who wasn't, but is now, on their website). He rang Spidi's UK guy, who's just rung me.
I'll be sending him sizes and he'll then ensure the factory sends two suits over from Italy for me to go in and try - no obligation.
He said all their 265 UK stockists are independents which means it's hard for them to carry the very top end stuff in this business climate, which I appreciate.
Anyway, couldn't ask for a better response to a forum post and have to take my hat off to them in terms of their willingness to go the extra mile.
Will let you all know what happens...
Spidi's marketing guy in Italy put me onto a Spidi dealer near me (who wasn't, but is now, on their website). He rang Spidi's UK guy, who's just rung me.
I'll be sending him sizes and he'll then ensure the factory sends two suits over from Italy for me to go in and try - no obligation.
He said all their 265 UK stockists are independents which means it's hard for them to carry the very top end stuff in this business climate, which I appreciate.
Anyway, couldn't ask for a better response to a forum post and have to take my hat off to them in terms of their willingness to go the extra mile.
Will let you all know what happens...
Belstaff
Some people take the mick out of me for wearing a longwaydown jacket,but I have been riding offroad since ewan was having wet dreams about princess layer onset chained to jabber the hutt.
The jacket has some faults,I was thinking I did a mistake on my choice but with the three layer setup I had all layers in riding through 4 hours of heavy rain and didn't feel cold and was surprised I was dry,and good ventilation for summer.
Some people take the mick out of me for wearing a longwaydown jacket,but I have been riding offroad since ewan was having wet dreams about princess layer onset chained to jabber the hutt.
The jacket has some faults,I was thinking I did a mistake on my choice but with the three layer setup I had all layers in riding through 4 hours of heavy rain and didn't feel cold and was surprised I was dry,and good ventilation for summer.
Have had a couple Spidi jackets and replaced my Spidi 365 with a Rukka Armas last year.
The Spidi gear is excellent quality and my last 365 survived a good few years. Fit with both liners was good but loose without. Warm in sub zero temps when used with Gerbing heated liner.
It does get very heavy and wet in the rain though and would take all day to dry out if I got wet on the way in to work.
Armour's OK but tends to move around a bit, especially if you remove a liner or two.
The Rukka Armas has been great. Fit is superb and the armour is the most comfortable I've ever had.
The main reason I chose not to renew with another Spidi is I was fed up with the outer layer getting wet. I wanted a laminated jacket that offered three season use and would be comfortable with a heated liner.
Have to say, the Rukka is a great jacket!
Tamworth Yamaha used to be a good Spidi stockist. Can't remember the ladies name but was always helpful.
HTH
Helmet
The Spidi gear is excellent quality and my last 365 survived a good few years. Fit with both liners was good but loose without. Warm in sub zero temps when used with Gerbing heated liner.
It does get very heavy and wet in the rain though and would take all day to dry out if I got wet on the way in to work.
Armour's OK but tends to move around a bit, especially if you remove a liner or two.
The Rukka Armas has been great. Fit is superb and the armour is the most comfortable I've ever had.
The main reason I chose not to renew with another Spidi is I was fed up with the outer layer getting wet. I wanted a laminated jacket that offered three season use and would be comfortable with a heated liner.
Have to say, the Rukka is a great jacket!
Tamworth Yamaha used to be a good Spidi stockist. Can't remember the ladies name but was always helpful.
HTH
Helmet
Can you do a mini review? I suspect you will be the only brit that gets to try one on without having to prepay.
OscarIndia
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Sure. Not certain they'll allow pics but will try, Bond style, in the changing room.
