Standard Exhaust 2016 vs 2017

[Warlord]

Quick question if anyone knows the answer please.

Is a 2016 model GSA exhaust end can the same as the 2017 model GSA exhaust end can.

Literally a straight swap (just the end can)?

Thanks

 

[stonehenge]

On Real OEM:

Up to 08/2016 - 18518552011 (ENDED)
Now - 18518525082

Although different part numbers, they look to be interchangeable (listed as Exchangeable Retrospectively)

 

[Sea Dog]

The later one is Euro 4 compliant, whilst the earlier one is Euro 3. So, whilst fit and form may be the same which would make them physically interchangeable, the function is different to meet the newer standard. Hence the change of part number as explained above.

 

[Warlord]

Ok so I purchased an 'as new' rear 2016 OEM exhaust for £50 delivered.

With the intention of having it ceramic coated black.

So I'm just wondering now which one to paint black and use?.

The 2016 one or my existing 2017 one. I bought it so my bike would still be roadworthy while being painted.

Any suggestions?

 

[Sea Dog]

Ok so I purchased an 'as new' rear 2016 OEM exhaust for £50 delivered.

With the intention of having it ceramic coated black.

So I'm just wondering now which one to paint black and use?.

The 2016 one or my existing 2017 one. I bought it so my bike would still be roadworthy while being painted.

Any suggestions?

I wonder whether the Euro 3 one will be an easier sell once your job is done? Folk seem to like older, potentially less restrictive zorsts. It's an easy enough swap, so why not try both and if you love the Euro 3 one, keep it. If there's no difference to you or you prefer the Euro 4, paint it black and stay green!

 

[Warlord]

I wonder whether the Euro 3 one will be an easier sell once your job is done? Folk seem to like older, potentially less restrictive zorsts. It's an easy enough swap, so why not try both and if you love the Euro 3 one, keep it. If there's no difference to you or you prefer the Euro 4, paint it black and stay green!

Yeah thats what I'm thinking.

If it fits and works I'll paint the new Euro3 exhaust and leave the existing Euro4 one standard ready to refit when I sell bike (or MOT).

Great. Cheers.

 

[Warlord]

Unless someone know why its not advisable to have a Euro3 on a Euro4 bike for any length of time?

 

[dave hendy]

I have fitted my Euro 3 Akro to my 2017 Euro 4 GS, only problem might be if you had a roadside check in Switzerland/Austria and they noticed, although not sure if you could be find by them for it??

As usual you would have to refit original for MOT

 

[Warlord]

I have fitted my Euro 3 Akro to my 2017 Euro 4 GS, only problem might be if you had a roadside check in Switzerland/Austria and they noticed, although not sure if you could be find by them for it??

As usual you would have to refit original for MOT

Ok great. Cheers.

For MOT i didn't think they did emmissions testing?

 

[kurienp]

Ok great. Cheers.

For MOT i didn't think they did emmissions testing?

That's correct. A motorcycle MOT does not include emissions. In which case, what need to fit the original exhaust for MOT? If they look the same, doubt if any of the MOT testers will be bothered.

 

[Sea Dog]

Why not just paint the Euro 4 and get your money back when you sell on your temporary Euro 3? I doubt the 3 is going to be better than the 4 in any noticeable way, and you'll still have a fully compliant Euro 4 bike. Thus you will never even have to give a thought to present or future MOT test standards (which conceivably could update to expect 2017 onward bikes to meet the Euro 4 specs they had to be built to) or riding through Switzerland (or wherever else is/gets strict about these things).

 

[Roadrash Rider]

Not doubting the explanation Sea Dog, but any idea what the physical change between the Euro 3 and Euro 4 end can actually is? I also have a 16 standard end can and a 17 oem and was considering the same as Warlord.

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Now i thought that the Euro 4 shitty stuff was nearer the engine than the Can
I.E in the cat and mapping

 

[dave hendy]

Now i thought that the Euro 4 shitty stuff was nearer the engine than the Can
I.E in the cat and mapping

Its noise as well as emissions that changed with Euro 4

 

[alp]

Just a couple of points on the Euro 3/4 exhaust subject....a) I think my Euro 3 2016 GS was louder than my Euro 4 2017 GS which could be the can internals and the more effective Euro 4 emission cat up stream b) The Euro 4 GS has lost me the gorgeous pop when changing up with the quick shifter (rarely hear it now) which to me seems likely to be the new engine emission control programming avoiding a momentary richer mixture when the ignition is cut during the change. This probably wont come back with a Euro 3 exhaust fitted to a Euro 4 GS, pity.

 

[Sea Dog]

Not doubting the explanation Sea Dog, but any idea what the physical change between the Euro 3 and Euro 4 end can actually is? I also have a 16 standard end can and a 17 oem and was considering the same as Warlord.

Dunno, I'm not sure we'll find out exactly what's changed inside the can, but something has hence the new part number. I suspect it's a minor tweak to meet a new noise limitation. I also suspect it would be barely noticeable even if you had 2 x 2017 bikes side by side, one with an E3 end can and the other with an E4, which is why I'd think sticking with a '17 end can for the reasons given earlier won't be a bad thing. There probably will be a bit more of a difference twixt a full Euro 3 and a full Euro 4 bike, of course, but that's a different kettle of fish.

 

[BrokenPaw]

Akra End Cans EU 3 and 4

Just to add a bit of confusion. I put my "old" Euro 3 Akra end can on my 17 GSA. Out of curiosity, I looked at the Akra site, and compared 2 end cans. One with 2 inlets (Euro 3), and one with a single large inlet (Euro 4). It's a bit anoraky, but the Akra site specs gave the Euro 3 a better performance gain than the Euro 4. It wasn't much difference, but given the choice..
Just as an aside, the 2017 I have is standard apart from the end can, and from an 05 hex head through a TC and 15 LC, this is my favourite GS from a ride/handling and performance view. Not a popular thing to say, but true for me.

 

[Warlord]

Why not just paint the Euro 4 and get your money back when you sell on your temporary Euro 3? I doubt the 3 is going to be better than the 4 in any noticeable way, and you'll still have a fully compliant Euro 4 bike. Thus you will never even have to give a thought to present or future MOT test standards (which conceivably could update to expect 2017 onward bikes to meet the Euro 4 specs they had to be built to) or riding through Switzerland (or wherever else is/gets strict about these things).

I thought of that but its a modification and when selling the bike people like clean original example.. don't they?

Also the exhaust end can is so easy to swap over. Its a doddle.