Centre stand lock - been done before - when I had a K100 there was an item available - steel plate with approx 15mm dia tube welded to it which was bolted to the bike using the centre stand bolts. A (Abus) u bolt lock about 25cm long was then slid through the tube which locked the centre stand vertically. It was easy to use but it obviously didnt stop either wheel from rotating so there where still many ways for the determined scroat to move the bike.
STOLEN - 1200GS Adventure 30th Anniversary
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Centre stand lock - been done before - when I had a K100 there was an item available - steel plate with approx 15mm dia tube welded to it which was bolted to the bike using the centre stand bolts. A (Abus) u bolt lock about 25cm long was then slid through the tube which locked the centre stand vertically. It was easy to use but it obviously didnt stop either wheel from rotating so there where still many ways for the determined scroat to move the bike.
How is that going to help the OP trace his bike?
it's not, but a valid question, as was about to ask the same.
How is that going to help the OP trace his bike?
But it might help others to keep theirs if they knew the circumstance. i.e. locked, locked to a secured fixing, unlocked, chain, U lock, disc lock etc etc.
There seems to be quite a few BMW's disappearing lately in the london area.
A colleague in my previous career had his Honda firestorm taken outside his house in Wickham, he heard the alarm briefly and ran outside to see a van racing away around the corner. Too late to clock the number plate and no means to chase it.
Two scaffold poles, one through each wheel and quickly into the back of a pikeys van. No way does a lockable centre stand stop that.
If they want it, its theirs by whatever means necessary.
Two scaffold poles, one through each wheel and quickly into the back of a pikeys van. No way does a lockable centre stand stop that.
If they want it, its theirs by whatever means necessary.
Devil
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Alas, its very big business these days in stolen bike parts, The sad fact is theres no controls on what vans and lorries take out of the country, making it very easy to ship them abroad to strip and sell broken for parts.
shedend59
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Sorry to hear that pal. Hope you get it back or at least get wind of the cnuts that did it.
Good luck
B
Mad_Accountant
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I believe a large percentage of motorcycle theft victims give up biking for good after the loss - please don't become one of those.
I am about the make a high value (four wheeled) purchase and will be fitting a GPS tracker
The maker is SKYTAG and it is designed to work in hostile environments such as construction plant, jet-skis, snow-mobiles cars and motorcycles.
They located a stolen Land Rover in 19 minutes two weekends ago.
A bike alarm would have told you it was on the move and then a call to SKYTAG and they tell the police where it is.
08453 88 60 62 - bought the device at Volksworld (Sandown park) last year.
I'm only a customer and in no way connected to them
I am about the make a high value (four wheeled) purchase and will be fitting a GPS tracker
The maker is SKYTAG and it is designed to work in hostile environments such as construction plant, jet-skis, snow-mobiles cars and motorcycles.
They located a stolen Land Rover in 19 minutes two weekends ago.
A bike alarm would have told you it was on the move and then a call to SKYTAG and they tell the police where it is.
08453 88 60 62 - bought the device at Volksworld (Sandown park) last year.
I'm only a customer and in no way connected to them
You won't stop them but you can deter them. A properly cemented-in ground-anchor with Thatcham rated chain and lock will slow them down - maybe long enough to get them noticed, hopefully long enough to make them fuck off, (and a bonus would be for them to catch a long-lasting incurable disease and die a long and painful death....)
These devices work well providing they (scotes) don't find it quickly ( so don't fit the stickers and badges and they may not even bother looking
) ... if they do they just remove and dump it.The Police maybe interested, but then again they may not, i think it depends on what else they're doing at the time !!
Nothing is safe ...... make it harder.
You could just pass a chain through your centre stand and front wheel.
This months Ride magazine has got an article about security in it. I haven't read it yet but worth a look as it covers trackers.
Totally agree, you need to make it as difficult as possible by attaching the bike to something or things that are secure and not movable with high quality locks and chains. Bike covers also help if you have to keep the bike outside. Overt CCTV cameras covering the bike can help too.
Hopefully, the thieves will realise it is a difficult target and look for an easier steal elsewhere.
There is an up-side to this....................
If your bike hadn't been stolen - we'd never have got to meet you
Take the positives from the event
Al
Hi...sorry as haven't looked on post for a couple of days...
Security was as per bike itself, i.e. immobiliser and BMW alarm, which it would appear didn't go off!!!
I also have a ground anchor fitted with hefty lock, however (typically) I hadn't locked it up that night as forgot (more fool me)...reality however is that the the bike is completely hidden from view from the street so I think that it had been targeted and therefore whatever I had locked it up with it would have gone...i thought of supergluing it to the patio but i may have had trouble riding it off the next day...
Latest total fiasco is the insurance company itself (BMW motorrad insurance), who need a minimum of 28 days to deal with the claim (me thinks more like 8 weeks) and are sending round a special investigator to interrogate me...12 years of no claims and i'm being treated like a criminal...oh and also i can't hire a bike as the insurance doesn't cover any bike that doesn't belong to me so they expect me to go without a bike (i use it every day) until they get around to offering me some derisory settlement for my loss...
Good news is that my brother-in-law who owns my first GS (1150 blue/white tank - wonderful) is at this moment having it serviced so I can borrow it until its all sorted out...so there is always good news with bad as I'm getting back on my first GS which started my addiction...and don't worry as i'm definitely buying a new bike, can't live without it!!!
Security was as per bike itself, i.e. immobiliser and BMW alarm, which it would appear didn't go off!!!
I also have a ground anchor fitted with hefty lock, however (typically) I hadn't locked it up that night as forgot (more fool me)...reality however is that the the bike is completely hidden from view from the street so I think that it had been targeted and therefore whatever I had locked it up with it would have gone...i thought of supergluing it to the patio but i may have had trouble riding it off the next day...
Latest total fiasco is the insurance company itself (BMW motorrad insurance), who need a minimum of 28 days to deal with the claim (me thinks more like 8 weeks) and are sending round a special investigator to interrogate me...12 years of no claims and i'm being treated like a criminal...oh and also i can't hire a bike as the insurance doesn't cover any bike that doesn't belong to me so they expect me to go without a bike (i use it every day) until they get around to offering me some derisory settlement for my loss...
Good news is that my brother-in-law who owns my first GS (1150 blue/white tank - wonderful) is at this moment having it serviced so I can borrow it until its all sorted out...so there is always good news with bad as I'm getting back on my first GS which started my addiction...and don't worry as i'm definitely buying a new bike, can't live without it!!!
WindyChuffer
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Sounds about right to me.
When my GSA was stolen in Jan 2011, RBS Insurance (NIG) underwrote BMW Motorrad Insurance policies. I had the same grilling, albeit over the phone. Date of theft to date of payout was 3 weeks, including price negotiation.
Now I believe it is Allianz that underwrite the policies.
When I got grilled I got asked to describe last useage of the bike, from approaching it at work, riding home and leaving it at home. I was at pains to point out that when I left it:
a) I engaged steering lock on and physcially checked it by trying to move the handlebars
b) I set the alarm and knew it was set because the indicators flash plus flashing red light on dashboard.
(without these security measures being in place, policy would have been invalid).
Like you, I feel that my theft was targeted as opposed to opportunistic. Meaning the fekker's were having it regardless.
Read up on the small print of the policy. They guy that comes round will be looking to trip you up and for reasons not to pay out. He will also likely ask the same question in different ways more than once, looking for inconsistencies. I wouldn't be surprised if he records your conversation.
He will no doubt make you feel bad about you not using your ground anchor, but if it is not mandated in the policy, politely point it out to him.
Sounds like you have nothing to worry about, other than the inconvenience of it all.
When my GSA was stolen in Jan 2011, RBS Insurance (NIG) underwrote BMW Motorrad Insurance policies. I had the same grilling, albeit over the phone. Date of theft to date of payout was 3 weeks, including price negotiation.
Now I believe it is Allianz that underwrite the policies.
When I got grilled I got asked to describe last useage of the bike, from approaching it at work, riding home and leaving it at home. I was at pains to point out that when I left it:
a) I engaged steering lock on and physcially checked it by trying to move the handlebars
b) I set the alarm and knew it was set because the indicators flash plus flashing red light on dashboard.
(without these security measures being in place, policy would have been invalid).
Like you, I feel that my theft was targeted as opposed to opportunistic. Meaning the fekker's were having it regardless.
Read up on the small print of the policy. They guy that comes round will be looking to trip you up and for reasons not to pay out. He will also likely ask the same question in different ways more than once, looking for inconsistencies. I wouldn't be surprised if he records your conversation.
He will no doubt make you feel bad about you not using your ground anchor, but if it is not mandated in the policy, politely point it out to him.
Sounds like you have nothing to worry about, other than the inconvenience of it all.
Mad_Accountant
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Tim , my adventure has just gone into Vines for a commission sale. It was registered 28/9/2012 and the mileage is 325. I promise you there's not a mark on it.
It is fully loaded, including alarm, and all three boxes (plus fender extender and tank bag). The colour is Magnum but anniversary panels aren't very expensive.
The panniers have never been on the bike.
Get in there quick !!!!
It is fully loaded, including alarm, and all three boxes (plus fender extender and tank bag). The colour is Magnum but anniversary panels aren't very expensive.
The panniers have never been on the bike.
Get in there quick !!!!
Sorry
Tim,
Having had mine nicked a few weeks ago I can understand your frustration exactly... Mine went in the 40 minutes I was in the house seeing my son at his mum's... it did show up a few miles away having been dumped a few days later after the insurers had paid out - but mine was a very old 1100 not a shiney like yours..
The police said the same thing about them being used in smash and grab raids. Hope your insurance pays out - I sent mine an email with links to several similar bikes for sale on UK sites which helped with them understanding the value and got a quick pay out.
The Other Tim
Tim,
Having had mine nicked a few weeks ago I can understand your frustration exactly... Mine went in the 40 minutes I was in the house seeing my son at his mum's... it did show up a few miles away having been dumped a few days later after the insurers had paid out - but mine was a very old 1100 not a shiney like yours..
The police said the same thing about them being used in smash and grab raids. Hope your insurance pays out - I sent mine an email with links to several similar bikes for sale on UK sites which helped with them understanding the value and got a quick pay out.
The Other Tim
jamm13dodger
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Sorry to derail the thread but are you the same Mad Accountant from my BMW C1 days? Cheers, Rob.
Yep it is Allianz....I had the misfortune to deal with them last year when I wrote of the GS after hitting a dear. The service was truly appalling with hanging on the phone for ages....64 minutes..I remember it well BUT when they did pay up I thought the settlement for bike, farkles and kit was fare...which I guess is all that counts in the end.
Mad_Accountant
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Yep -I'm afraid I am.
I am still crazy about all BMW bikes and still own a c1 and an r100r ('92) Airhead. I love the GSs and will undoubtedly own another before too long but the GSA funds are needed for a new camper van arriving in June.
On a daily basis I ride whichever of the above bikes isn't broken
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