Surging

Colin Brown

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Hi, Im new, ex 2 Tigers, sorry. Have now seen the light and am interested in the posts about surging on fixed low throttle. The Tigers are famous for the same. At fixed throttle the ECU leans out the mixture and hey presto, bucking bronco. The cure is simple we fit a dummy oxygen sensor that tells the ECU everthing is good and it stops messing about. I have seen a similar device for the BMW - Dimsport Lambada Eliminator for use with pipes that don't have the provision for the sensor. Wondering if anybody has any imput. PS. Great Forum
 
I have finally all but eliminated it on my '05 R1200GS.

More than once I have asked for the throttle bodies to be balanced when in for service, and always got the response " they are within tolerance".

Last time I was told that the surging was because of one or more of these:
1) Free flowing BOS exhaust causing the exhaust gases to flow too fast for the Lambda sensor to measure.
2) Spark plugs getting old.
3) HID ballasts causing CanBus problems affecting the ECU.

Personally I felt that is a load of tosh, the surging existed long before any of the above were fitted! I will not be having any more sevicing done there BTW.

The resolution was to balance the throttle bodies myself, then reset th ethrottle position sensors. I have had a Carbtune mkII kicking around for years, armed with instructions from here and/or ADVRider I went about checking the vaccum levels on both bodies. They were definitely NOT in synch @ 3,500 RPM, adjustment was such a doddle I wondered why I had not done it earlier! For my bike i just needed to slacken the right hand cable by 1 1/4 turns of the adjuster and that was it.
The throttle psotion sensors were reset by disconnecting the battery. Then after 30 seconds ( not sure of this is requirement on a GS, but definitely needs to be done when resetting the NTL desk top box), reconnecting it. Turn ignition on, kill switch in the run position, do not start. Open throttle slowly to full throttle twice and back, turn ignition off. Repeat, this time opening the throttle 3 times because I cant find a thread that says how many times to do this.
Surging is now all but disappeared.
 
Fitted a Techlusion TFI-202334ST unit and cured all surging woes as well as releasing a few extra ponies.

The item can be bought from wunderlich as a power controller( they have the european import rights tied up until Jan 2008) or you can order direct from the states and save a few quid.

Very good plug and play item if the bike in in stock trim and can dial out problems associated with high flow air filters, full flow headers and racing end cans.

Fited an R259 unit to a pals RT1150 last week and sorted the surging on that one as well.

Does what it says on the tin
 
surging

Sorry , unit number is TFI-201334ST. Left out the 1 in the original post
 


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