Suspension Changes

[Deleted account 210609001]

I’m stuck away from laptop and manual. Here’s my question:

When I change riding mode via right switchgear (Eco/rain/road/dynamic etc) does it automatically adjust the suspension accordingly? Or do I need to change it myself using left switchgear?

 

[CPJS]

I’m stuck away from laptop and manual. Here’s my question:

When I change riding mode via right switchgear (Eco/rain/road/dynamic etc) does it automatically adjust the suspension accordingly? Or do I need to change it myself using left switchgear?

The ESA will alter the damping to a preset for each mode, you can then change it, if you wish, via the button on the left hand cluster.

 

[yofi]

Confess I haven't quite understood this. On the one hand, the system interacts with control systems such as ABS and DTC according to the rider mode, on the other you also have the (since 2017) just the road/dynamic setting on the switchgear. So theoretically you could be in enduro mode but only in a road/dynamic setting on the left switchgear? I'm just wondering if, like on the adaptive suspension on BMW cars, the left switch is a stiffness setting, while the active damping nonetheless works in addition to the stiffness setting (which many folks fail to appreciate) @confused

https://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/en/experience/engineering/detail/Suspension/dynamic-esa.html

 

[littleade]

I’m stuck away from laptop and manual. Here’s my question:

When I change riding mode via right switchgear (Eco/rain/road/dynamic etc) does it automatically adjust the suspension accordingly? Or do I need to change it myself using left switchgear?

No and yes the RH button only changes throttle response, ABS and TCS settings. All suspension settings are changed via the LH button. IIRC toggle down to change the preload between min max and auto and toggle up to change between Road, Dynamic and Enduro etc.

 

[Daggerit]

No and yes the RH button only changes throttle response, ABS and TCS settings. All suspension settings are changed via the LH button. IIRC toggle down to change the preload between min max and auto and toggle up to change between Road, Dynamic and Enduro etc.

True, but the RH button will pull up all the settings of the mode you're switching to. So if you ride in road mode with the suspension in road mode and then switch to dynamic where the suspension was last used in the dynamic rather than road setting then the suspension choice will change with the mode as well.

Basically the riding mode and suspension selection completely independent and the suspension setting for any given riding mode will be remembered when you change between them.

 

[RedRick Esq.]

I’m stuck away from laptop and manual. Here’s my question:

When I change riding mode via right switchgear (Eco/rain/road/dynamic etc) does it automatically adjust the suspension accordingly? Or do I need to change it myself using left switchgear?

My understanding, and this is from a while ago now, is yes ! The suspension should adjust its damping etc according to the mode. I.E in dynamic riding mode the suspension will go into the same mode

The LHS switches are so you can customise it a bit and have dynamic engine and throttle but set the suspenders to normal road etc. The Auto function is for the pre load I believe ( I didn't have that ) so if you put a pillion on it sorts itself out

Happy to be wrong of course

 

[Winjar]

Dynamic mode even in auto make suspension more harder, road in auto more soft.

 

[JerseyNeil]

Unless you are in pro mode then suspension will change with rider mode setting. If you use dynamic pro and choose soft suspension. Next time you go into that mode it will have soft suspension.... i think.

 

[littleade]

True, but the RH button will pull up all the settings of the mode you're switching to. So if you ride in road mode with the suspension in road mode and then switch to dynamic where the suspension was last used in the dynamic rather than road setting then the suspension choice will change with the mode as well.

Basically the riding mode and suspension selection completely independent and the suspension setting for any given riding mode will be remembered when you change between them.

Didn't know that, thanks

 

[Deleted account 210609001]

Thanks, all.

So if

1. I ride in road mode (rider mode) and set the suspension to road
2. Then set the rider mode to dynamic and make sure suspension is set to dynamic

Every time I select rider mode, the suspension will default to that mode as well?

I suppose the easy way to check will be to set the rider mode and then use suspension button to see what it has defaulted to.

(In reality I suspect it will stay in road mode virtually all the time).

Life was so much easier without this adjustability!

 

[RedRick Esq.]

Thanks, all.

So if

1. I ride in road mode (rider mode) and set the suspension to road
2. Then set the rider mode to dynamic and make sure suspension is set to dynamic As you set rider mode to dynamic the suspension should default to dynamic

Every time I select rider mode, the suspension will default to that mode as well? Yes

I suppose the easy way to check will be to set the rider mode and then use suspension button to see what it has defaulted to.

See my additions as to how I believe it works but as stated previously you can combine different rider modes with different suspension modes I.E road mode ( driver) with Dynamic suspension or vice versa

 

[Daggerit]

See my additions as to how I believe it works but as stated previously you can combine different rider modes with different suspension modes I.E road mode ( driver) with Dynamic suspension or vice versa

In my experience I'd confirm all the points you made. Dynamic suspension setting is default for dynamic riding mode unless you manually change it to the road suspension setting while you're in the dynamic riding mode, which it will then remember and use if you switch to another mode and back again.

 

[Deleted account 210609001]

I just had a play with the bike, changing settings etc, and it seems that it always defaults to the suspensions setting aligned to the rider mode: rider mode in rain or road, and suspension switches to road; rider mode in dynamic and suspension switches to dynamic.

In any mode, you can change the suspension to the other setting. BUT if you change it (for example go into dynamic mode and change suspension manually to road) it does NOT seem to remember this. Switch rider mode to road, then switch it back to dynamic and suspension has gone back to dynamic (even though I left suspension in road when I was last in dynamic mode.

(This was all done stationary in the garage. It's raining, after all.)

 

[RedRick Esq.]

I just had a play with the bike, changing settings etc, and it seems that it always defaults to the suspensions setting aligned to the rider mode: rider mode in rain or road, and suspension switches to road; rider mode in dynamic and suspension switches to dynamic.

In any mode, you can change the suspension to the other setting. BUT if you change it (for example go into dynamic mode and change suspension manually to road) it does NOT seem to remember this. Switch rider mode to road, then switch it back to dynamic and suspension has gone back to dynamic (even though I left suspension in road when I was last in dynamic mode.

(This was all done stationary in the garage. It's raining, after all.)

It does seem to be very complicated doesn't it and like most of these things that are new and fangled ( like flappy paddle gear boxes) you will end up just leaving it in auto

 

[Daggerit]

I just had a play with the bike, changing settings etc, and it seems that it always defaults to the suspensions setting aligned to the rider mode: rider mode in rain or road, and suspension switches to road; rider mode in dynamic and suspension switches to dynamic.

In any mode, you can change the suspension to the other setting. BUT if you change it (for example go into dynamic mode and change suspension manually to road) it does NOT seem to remember this. Switch rider mode to road, then switch it back to dynamic and suspension has gone back to dynamic (even though I left suspension in road when I was last in dynamic mode.

(This was all done stationary in the garage. It's raining, after all.)

That's odd, mine definitely remembers the suspension mode. I just went and checked because I'd left it in road suspension but dynamic pro mode and it's still like that even when cycling through the modes in the garage.

 

[JerseyNeil]

That's odd, mine definitely remembers the suspension mode. I just went and checked because I'd left it in road suspension but dynamic pro mode and it's still like that even when cycling through the modes in the garage.

I think if you put the plug in for Dynamic mode then the bike does remember your previous settings. Only for grown ups

 

[Giles]

Thats Robin out then ......

 

[Daggerit]

I think if you put the plug in for Dynamic mode then the bike does remember your previous settings. Only for grown ups

Ah that makes sense!


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[Deleted account 210609001]

Not sure about a plug, but mine had Dynamic and Dynamic Pro already available. (I think the TE comes with the plug pre-installed, perhaps.)

I haven't played with Dynamic Pro mode yet. Only had short spells in Dynamic to see if I can notice the difference - I can - but as it's been cold and slimy since I've had it and I've now gone over mileage for first service, I will need to wait until after service on Monday to have a play. After last weekend's lovely mild and sunny weather, looks like riding to and from dealer is goign to be more of an opportunity to test heated grips and seats rather than anything faintly approaching 'dynamic.'

 

[Deleted account 210609001]

Thats Robin out then ......

Ho bloody ho. I'm older than you, hence beat you to early retirement age by a month! Unlike you, I don't benefit from a cushy, Fat Cat money-for-nothing public sector pension plan so I've only been able to take partial retirement...