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tanneman

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Had to have a go. An itch that needs to be scratched. Made my way over to Market Deeping this morning. Paul the sales man was very helpful and also very knowledgeable about the bikes. Took the 1190 out for a spin. First stop to adjust the screen, next stop to put some fuel in it cause the motor is gonna make me make it thirsty :D. Not too much drama lower down in the rev range but keep it singing and it delivers and the Akra pipe adds to the aural display. It makes you engage with the bike and you have to be in front of it. 3rd gear overtakes is a doddle and sometimes you can feel the front is willing to be coaxed higher. This is a demo bike so we keep it at the sensible side of fun. Seat is a bit hard after a few miles. A pheasant checked the the toughness of the mirror stalk and came a way well, seriously hurt. Found the road I was looking for but by that time an hour and a half was almost over. Made my way back and Paul handed me the keyes for the SA. Instantly felt familiar. So easy to ride and like the 1190 the gearbox is so much better. The difference of chain vs shaft. Seat is better and screen is better. This thing overtakes without thinking. Mind you the demo had 250 miles on it so I didn't explore the upper rpm range but short shifted at 7k rpm. Even then the pickup is effortless. Because of the rpm limit the overtakes are better done in 4th. Did have moment when twisting the throttle for an overtake and as I levelled with the car we hit a small crest in the road which helped the KTM lift the front. TC soon brought it down but man o man, what a motor. It dominates the bike. Overall a very good bike and a stonking motor. It either lugs you out of corners or fires you down a straight. It is not intimidating but handles very good for its size and the motor makes power very progressively as you would expect from a big V twin.

A few niggles though. There has to be cause I own a GSA :aidan. The seat is not so comfy, the cruise control is a bit silly for being on the RH bar and I notice a bit of feedback at a steady 40mph. Not to worry about the last one, you soon accelerate out of it. The active suspension settings is not so effective as the BMW, meaning normal is good for me day to day but comfort is closer to normal than comfort. Back on the GSA for the ride home and I notice the more sit in feel as to the sit on feel of the KTM. The GSA is more of a tour bike, it feels like it, assuring you and comforts you. The ergonomics is better, the rear brake is better and the way the suspension deals with the lumps an bumps and hard braking adds to that feel. The KTM, both of them, are busy, engages you, makes you feel what is happening, makes you hear that engine even with a standard exhaust. I felt like a yobbo going through the villages :D. Surprisingly the SA to me is the one that feels better. Don't know what the missus would make of the pillion seat.

What I said to Paul at the end. I wish I had ridden the SA before I bought the GSA.

(The 1190R is massively tall. You will need some legs for that thing)
 
I agree with you on the seat - there are a few options out there for a replacement. Overall, the engine won me over and dynamically the bike is a missile.

I don't regret going orange for one minute :aidan
 
That's a pretty good summary I'd say :)

The KTM is very engaging and the GS more of a 'wafty' comfy bike.

It all boils down to what floats your boat (as ever). Are you thinking of getting one then or did you just fancy trying one out?

Andres
 
I always wanted to have a go on one but the media hype at the time and the restricted supply you couldn't get hold of one. There are a few on ebay with low mileage and 2 new ones at Gear4KTM excluding the demo. No GTs available at the moment so will ask Simon Weir when he is done with his if I see him before.

I bought the GSA for a bargain from a dealer when they were going for £14500 for a demo model. I'll be looking for a bargain if the opportunity comes along. The missus will obviously want a go on the back because she has a say when enduring 2 to 3k miles during a holiday. Paul has grabbed my attention and I suspect from my experience and a friend who owns a 690 Duke R that going the distance to Market Deeping is worth it. Also observed how he treated another regular customer :thumb2

Next year the new GS/GSA is out and a new KTM Adventure/Super Adventure. Will have a look and see what difference or refinements have been made. Mind you the KTM SA brand new is bloody expensive with the bits and bobs added.

If considering a purchase then the usual questions will be asked. Servicing costs, depreciation I can work out (like BMW it is all down to demand and supply. You can't poke a stick at all the GSs on sale now), tyres (I suspect this thing will have a set more often than not), purchase cost and the price of farkles to tart it up. BMW has a lot of branded stuff that is good but it does tend make you a brand whore. Long term ownership I suspect might be a little bit cheaper discounting any depreciation of the contenders. Out of warranty stuff that can go wrong I'll have to research. Replacing a chain and a set of sprockets every now and then is easier on the wallet than a final drive once a 100k. I don't know if the 1290 suffers the airbox whoes of the 1190. I do know it has been recalled for suspension. I see the accessory spotlights are the same as for the BMW. Dealer network is also a consideration. 2 nearish to me (MK40 postcade), one in Hemel Hempstead, the other in Market Deeping. BMW is so to say around the corner and have so far offered very good service to me. By the way the tyre is not tubeless? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Always fancied KTM since Alfie Cox dominated the enduro ralleys. But also the photo of the 1150 GSA in Bolivia which was published in the launch brochure. Ewan and thingy had nothing to do with my BMW purchase :D Instead it was Randy Mamola and the Boxercup series that draw me to the R1100S and it went all downhill from there.

Kick start Twice on Monday vs Bring My Wallet :D My mates who are the BMW owners supporters group within the MC club in Oakley will be disappointed by my turncoat :aidan but even more so if they can't keep up :green gri Oh, just remembered the missus said something about buying a new bike yesterday. Probably not important.
 
Just to add. I met one of the development managers responsible for the GSA at a bike show. He is like 7 foot tall. So I told him what we need is a 160bhp GSA. He asked what for? I said have you ever ridden a bike in traffic congested UK? You need the power to overtake the daft buggers on the twisty A and B roads plus all the other advantages of having a stonking motor. Has he listened, has he fuck. They gave us the XR and the media garnished it with words explaining to every fool what a great bike it is. It is a great bike but not good enough.
 
A mate has just picked up a 2016 1290SA with an Akrapovic can, sump guard, carbon fibre side panels, hill hold control and full fitted KTM luggage for £14999 all in. Still have two more at P&H Crawley.

I have to say I thought it was a good deal at that price.


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