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The dangers of a blind crest?
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Have one of these to negotiate every time I leave the village. No visibility whatsoever, yet I still get following cars becoming irritated when I slow right down.
That's prity much what I was taught by Mike Waite who was an ex police biker instructor when I did some training with him in the late 1990's.
As far a positioning was concerned he advised getting as close to the left hand edge of the road as possible without compromising my safety and used to call it cutting the daisies.
Another phrase I remember was from Nigel, who was from the Stoke area somewhere, again ex police? His was loose the view, loose the speed.
Another I've heard from a few sources for negotiating bends is In slow, out fast, in fast out feet first
As far a positioning was concerned he advised getting as close to the left hand edge of the road as possible without compromising my safety and used to call it cutting the daisies.
Another phrase I remember was from Nigel, who was from the Stoke area somewhere, again ex police? His was loose the view, loose the speed.
Another I've heard from a few sources for negotiating bends is In slow, out fast, in fast out feet first
Never put your bike where your eyes haven't been.
On the ball there.
With it, he’d be going straight up the cow’s arse.
Eminently preferable to a ROSPA meet…..
Information - Sharp Summit
Position - Centre of your lane
Speed - Slow down
Gear - choose a gear so you are just below peak torque
Acceleration - As soon as you reach the crest nail it and wheelie all the way down the other side.
I love riding safely, or I did, until they invented traction control and ruined it - yeah, I know, if I spend 30k on a new bike it will do wheelie control, but where is the fun in that if the computer does it for you.
Nearly flipped an RG500 on a crest near me as a yoof when the wind got underneath, closed throttle and I thought it was never coming down, also managed to wheelie over Cadwell mountain on a TL1000S (it did not want to go around corners, so wheelies seemed a better option) and overshot the next bend and tried my hand a grass track - turns out that was definately not for me!
Position - Centre of your lane
Speed - Slow down
Gear - choose a gear so you are just below peak torque
Acceleration - As soon as you reach the crest nail it and wheelie all the way down the other side.
I love riding safely, or I did, until they invented traction control and ruined it - yeah, I know, if I spend 30k on a new bike it will do wheelie control, but where is the fun in that if the computer does it for you.
Nearly flipped an RG500 on a crest near me as a yoof when the wind got underneath, closed throttle and I thought it was never coming down, also managed to wheelie over Cadwell mountain on a TL1000S (it did not want to go around corners, so wheelies seemed a better option) and overshot the next bend and tried my hand a grass track - turns out that was definately not for me!
yes i had a similar situation the other day ,i went over a blind crest ,done the same road a million times,all of a sudden on the other side a que of traffic ,the water board had the road up and put traffic lights up.
a bit of an arse clenching moment for a second or two.
never get too complacent ,you just never know
a bit of an arse clenching moment for a second or two.
never get too complacent ,you just never know
Stand up on the pegs ( yes really) on the approach to the crest of the hill.
Was taught this on my police motorcycle course in north wales many years ago. Gives a much better early warning of what can lay just the other side on the hill.
Also good for getting an early warning of what lies in ‘hidden dips’ on undulating roads.
Stood me in good stead and a technique I still use today.
DB
Try it at 212.36mph over the 1km..... Gary Rothwell style on a turbo Hyabusa with nearly 700 of Jack Frost's finest horses!
Dodge is going to try and break the record this summer. He hit a hare at over 180mph a year or two back, smashed his foot to bits but he did stay on and got it stopped.... didn't go back to pick the hare up though, what a waste of good meat!
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Been doing that for years and I'm still here for now
I have heard the term "vertical bends" applied to blind summits by former police riders.
Extending your view over them by standing up, as previously mentioned, certainly gives you a few extra metres to adjust whatever needs adjusting should there be a hazard over the brow.
SteveT
Extending your view over them by standing up, as previously mentioned, certainly gives you a few extra metres to adjust whatever needs adjusting should there be a hazard over the brow.
SteveT
There's a science behind that weighty statement, but I'm not sure our society is sufficiently able to seize the meaning of this weird, feisty comment.
Weird
Reminds me of an experience I had on a so called organised ride out some years ago. Egit overtook me on the crest of a blind brow, stood up on the pegs, in the middle of the road. Entirely missed seeing the car approaching from the opposite direction and nearly killed himself.
Needless to say we had words and he blamed his actions on an advanced instructor who I knew well. The instruction must have got misinterpreted to say the least
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