The HP2 Sport has landed

HP2 Sport – My evaluation so far.


Current Mileage: 250

First of all, this bike does not feel like any other BMW boxer I’ve ever ridden. (I’ve ridden all except for the 1200S).

Rider: 5’8” tall. 17.5st of solid lard.

Riding position:
Very similar to a GSXR100 K5/6/7, but not as extreme as my old ZX-10R’s, or the Ducati 999 or 1098. It’s comfortable and suits me fine with settings on standard (You can adjust the foot rests and foot controls, the clip-ons, levers and front and rear ride height to suit if necessary).

Handling:
This handles unlike anything I’ve ever ridden before. This bike is very light at less than 200kg fully wet. But on the move, it feels even lighter, carrying its weight very low.

The ride is quite firm but very plush and well damped. The steering is very light and responsive and changes direction very quickly through the twisties. With the Ohlins shocks working well with the front Tele-lever and rear Para-lever suspension. I was never a great fan of Michelin tyres. However, the HP2S is fitted with Pilot Sport 2CT’s. Which so far on these cold damp roads, I’m very impressed with.

Under hard acceleration out of bumpy corners, the front end can get a bit light. But the steering damper keeps it under control (unlike my ZX-10R which used to get very flighty).

This is the best handling bike I’ve ever ridden.

Performance:
The motor is a peach.
Pull in the very light clutch and nudge the gear lever into first. The gear engages silently. The bike is very easy to launch, requiring very few revs. However, If you gas it off the lights, the front wheel lifts very easily (even with my bulk hunched over the bars). The engine spins up very quickly and has loads of grunt and mid range.
Now its time to change to 2nd gear. Keep the throttle open and accelerating hard, nudge the lever up and there’s a pop from the exhaust, 2nd gear engages seamlessly almost like an automatic, no clutch required for up changes. The front wheel lifts again, so I short shift through to 6th and I’m cruising at 100mph, with the revs reading 5200rpm (red line is 9500rpm). Engine as smooth as silk, I could stay here all day (but I don’t because I’m in the UK and I’m running her in).

Gearbox:
This really the tour de force feature on the HP2S.
All BMW bikes R’s or K’s have agricultural gearboxes compared to other brands.
But the close ratio gearbox on the HP2S is simply outstanding. The action is very light and positive. No clunks or false neutrals and the clutch action is very light (when required).
A special mention has to go to the Quick Shifter though. This is my favourite feature on the bike. Up changes can be performed without the clutch, and under soft or hard acceleration, just keep the power on and nudge the lever. There’s a pop from the exhaust (this is addictive and sounds great) and next gear is engaged without any clunks or drama; Totally Awesome.

Brakes:
The Brembo Monoblocks are also outstanding to use.
They have monster stopping power, but they don’t bite and have loads of feel. One finger is all that’s needed under normal braking.

Digital Dash
This is another superb piece of kit. It has several different road and race modes.
The standard road mode displays revs, speed, gear position, current time, engine temp., 2x trip metres and fuel miles remaining.

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Any criticisms?
Only one so far.
The mirrors are useless. They don’t vibrate, but all I can see is my elbows. No different from most sports bikes I’ve ridden though.


I’m hoping to put another 300 miles on her tomorrow, on some dry roads with any luck.
Then once the first service has been done I’ll really start to open her up and explore the engine performance.:thumb2 :D:D
 
HP2 Sport – My evaluation so far.


Current Mileage: 250

First of all, this bike does not feel like any other BMW boxer I’ve ever ridden. (I’ve ridden all except for the 1200S).

Rider: 5’8” tall. 17.5st of solid lard.

Riding position:
Very similar to a GSXR100 K5/6/7, but not as extreme as my old ZX-10R’s, or the Ducati 999 or 1098. It’s comfortable and suits me fine with settings on standard (You can adjust the foot rests and foot controls, the clip-ons, levers and front and rear ride height to suit if necessary).

Handling:
This handles unlike anything I’ve ever ridden before. This bike is very light at less than 200kg fully wet. But on the move, it feels even lighter, carrying its weight very low.

The ride is quite firm but very plush and well damped. The steering is very light and responsive and changes direction very quickly through the twisties. With the Ohlins shocks working well with the front Tele-lever and rear Para-lever suspension. I was never a great fan of Michelin tyres. However, the HP2S is fitted with Pilot Sport 2CT’s. Which so far on these cold damp roads, I’m very impressed with.

Under hard acceleration out of bumpy corners, the front end can get a bit light. But the steering damper keeps it under control (unlike my ZX-10R which used to get very flighty).

This is the best handling bike I’ve ever ridden.

Performance:
The motor is a peach.
Pull in the very light clutch and nudge the gear lever into first. The gear engages silently. The bike is very easy to launch, requiring very few revs. However, If you gas it off the lights, the front wheel lifts very easily (even with my bulk hunched over the bars). The engine spins up very quickly and has loads of grunt and mid range.
Now its time to change to 2nd gear. Keep the throttle open and accelerating hard, nudge the lever up and there’s a pop from the exhaust, 2nd gear engages seamlessly almost like an automatic, no clutch required for up changes. The front wheel lifts again, so I short shift through to 6th and I’m cruising at 100mph, with the revs reading 5200rpm (red line is 9500rpm). Engine as smooth as silk, I could stay here all day (but I don’t because I’m in the UK and I’m running her in).

Gearbox:
This really the tour de force feature on the HP2S.
All BMW bikes R’s or K’s have agricultural gearboxes compared to other brands.
But the close ratio gearbox on the HP2S is simply outstanding. The action is very light and positive. No clunks or false neutrals and the clutch action is very light (when required).
A special mention has to go to the Quick Shifter though. This is my favourite feature on the bike. Up changes can be performed without the clutch, and under soft or hard acceleration, just keep the power on and nudge the lever. There’s a pop from the exhaust (this is addictive and sounds great) and next gear is engaged without any clunks or drama; Totally Awesome.

Brakes:
The Brembo Monoblocks are also outstanding to use.
They have monster stopping power, but they don’t bite and have loads of feel. One finger is all that’s needed under normal braking.

Digital Dash
This is another superb piece of kit. It has several different road and race modes.
The standard road mode displays revs, speed, gear position, current time, engine temp., 2x trip metres and fuel miles remaining.

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IMG_0103.jpg

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Any criticisms?
Only one so far.
The mirrors are useless. They don’t vibrate, but all I can see is my elbows. No different from most sports bikes I’ve ridden though.


I’m hoping to put another 300 miles on her tomorrow, on some dry roads with any luck.
Then once the first service has been done I’ll really start to open her up and explore the engine performance.:thumb2 :D:D

Got to agree with you, on all counts. Ive read some of these threads and had a smile at a few, "there are shedloads of R1200S 's at BMW that they cant get rid of" (:mmmm)

"compared to a fireblade/zx10r etc etc etc, Well, it AINT meant to compete with ANY of them! It nearly compares with a sports 600, but not quite?

Dash made bY 2D, who make the dash panels for MOTO GP, fantastic peice of kit, (took me 2 days solid to understand it fully!), and the handling!!!!!:thumb2:thumb2

It was designed for true Boxer fans, who wanted just a little bit more.

If you dont like 'BOXER' motors, you aint gonna like this!!!!!

And i still reckon its too cheap..................:augie:augie

Smudger.
 
Mirrors

Oh, and yes, the mirrors are USELESS! BUT THE BIKE IS DESIGNED TO SPEND MOST OF ITS RIDING LIFE WITH THEM OFF:bounce1
 
The HP2 is a seriously mint 'bike........:thumb2

But it isn't a watercooled V twin 'Homologation special' with traction control, that is busily cleaning up in World Superbike.......:augie


I thought that was the 40 grand one? Good point though, but i would add that it wasn't built for that and how many people on the Duke can ride it to its potential?

I do like the Duke though..........................
 
That bike is a work of art...It's even become my computer wallpaper, at least until the realisation hits that I will never be able to afford one.
 
HP2S

Hi all, this is my first post.

YONKYO,
I've been following your posts with great interest, since I am waiting for delivery of my HP2 Sport.

I am in South Carolina, USA. My bike is currently scheduled for production the week of April 13th. I hope to have it by the end of May.

I enjoyed reading your very positive review, and it brings up a question. Like you, I plan to street ride as well as doing some track days. I have read some negative comments regarding the absence of a slipper clutch. Do you feel that the bike is lacking in any meaningful way without it?
As far as I know even the race HP2's that have been rather successfully campaigned are without a slipper.

I wish you the best with your new bike. Please keep us informed as it appears that no bikes will arrive in the US for a bit longer. :beerjug:

John
 
Hi all, this is my first post.
YONKYO,
I've been following your posts with great interest, since I am waiting for delivery of my HP2 Sport.

I am in South Carolina, USA. My bike is currently scheduled for production the week of April 13th. I hope to have it by the end of May.

I enjoyed reading your very positive review, and it brings up a question. Like you, I plan to street ride as well as doing some track days. I have read some negative comments regarding the absence of a slipper clutch. Do you feel that the bike is lacking in any meaningful way without it?
As far as I know even the race HP2's that have been rather successfully campaigned are without a slipper.

I wish you the best with your new bike. Please keep us informed as it appears that no bikes will arrive in the US for a bit longer. :beerjug:

John


Hi John
Welcome to the forum.

I’m glad you found my review interesting. You sure are in for a treat when you collect your HP2S mate.

I’ve had slipper clutches on my pervious bikes and to be honest, I only ever felt them doing anything, when I was on the race track. The HP2S has a lot of engine braking, but so far, the rear wheel has not locked at all under rapid deceleration into a curve.

As you have stated. The racing HP2’s :bow don’t have slipper clutches either and they are doing well on track. However, I could see the rear wheel skipping occasionally on the HP2’s at Daytona, though it didn’t seem upset the bikes corner entry speed.
:thumb

A rose amongst thorns? (only kidding:augie that KTM990SM is a monster)
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HP2S

Thanks!
Just what I thought. Please keep the first hand info coming as it will have to do for us until our bikes are here.
And thanks for the great pictures also.

John :thumb
 
hi my first post, yonkyo whats the servicing schedule like on the s? i cancelled the rc8 after seeiing it in the flesh and can see myself puting a deposit on the hp2s in the next couple of weeks.
like snakepilot said keep the info and pics coming.
 
hi my first post, yonkyo whats the servicing schedule like on the s? i cancelled the rc8 after seeiing it in the flesh and can see myself puting a deposit on the hp2s in the next couple of weeks.
like snakepilot said keep the info and pics coming.

welcome to the site pgm
I'll be posting an update later today. So watch this space.
:thumb
 
HP2S ride review update

Current Mileage: 400 (first service due at 600 miles)

I only managed another 150 miles on Sunday. But they were 150 miles of very challenging roads through the Brecon Beacons, which were more suited to a bike like the R1200GS than the HP2S. However, the HP2 was a joy to ride, even on these tight and twisty mountain passes.

I never mentioned the fuelling on my previous report. But it deserves a mention now.
Negotiating steep slippery low speed hairpin bends is good test of a bikes fuelling. So I’m happy to say that the HP2 passed the test with honours. The bike’s fuel injection system is excellent. Its very smooth and responsive and not at all snatchy (like some system suffer), so dialling in the smooth grunty power exiting bends at any speed is a joy.

Also riding in busy town traffic is a breeze due to the almost Carb-smooth fuelling and light weight of the HP2S. So it’s 10 out of 10 for the fuel injection.

Ergonomics & Equipment:-
HP2S comes with a high quality tool kit which is supplied in a posh Bum Bag with HP2 logo on it. Why, because there is nowhere to store the toolkit on the bike.
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Ok, the HP2S is a proper sports bike. So don’t expect sports tourer functionality.
As I said in my last review, the riding position, seat and excellent suspension enable big mileages to be covered, in almost sport-tourer comfort. However, unless you wear a back pack, there is nowhere to carry anything on the bike e.g. Tail Pack or Panniers are impossible to carry. Hopefully BMW will soon design a decent Tank Bag for the bike, because I so want to ride this bike through Spain, on the fantastic roads down to Valencia later this year for the MotoGp.

That’s it again for now…I’ll report on the engine performance when I open her up after the first service is done.

Oh, here are few more shots of instrument functions.

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Nice update :thumb2

Just one thing - have you really not managed to open her up at all :eek

I'm running in my Busa and I've let it go a few times just to vary the load and give it a bit of variety. Nothing major or sustained but beyond the 6k rpm as recommended - I couldn't resist. I hope curiosity doesn't kill this Cat :blast
 
Nice !!!

There are some great roads around the Beacons.

It's bloody good that BMW have got the FI fully sorted.
That's the one minor glitch that I would level against the KTM RC8 that I've just ridden,having got one on order and due in the next month.

It's good to see that both manufacturer's are trying to cater for the real world,with good adjustability of riding position.

I think it helps that the average German and Austrian isn't built like the average Japanese tiny person.

I know what you mean about nowhere to store stuff.

KTM came up with this option,which is a 10 litre tail pack that just clips to the rear in place of the pillion pad :

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I'm sure Baglux will do something for the HP2S in time.

Or how about Bags-Connection ? They don't actually list the HP2S on their website,but if the HP2s has the the standard BMW 6 screw cap,then it should fit your bike :

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I'm pleased that you are liking the HP2S so much.

I would have been very tempted myself but the local BMW dealer is not very good and there may well be a change soon,whereas the local KTM dealer is a mate.

It'll be interesting to see these real-world sports bikes in a head to head in one of the mags in coming months.

:thumb2
 
Nice update :thumb2

Just one thing - have you really not managed to open her up at all :eek

I'm running in my Busa and I've let it go a few times just to vary the load and give it a bit of variety. Nothing major or sustained but beyond the 6k rpm as recommended - I couldn't resist. I hope curiosity doesn't kill this Cat :blast

Trev

I can’t divulge exactly how fast I’ve been on the bike thus far, on the grounds that it might invalidate my warranty…only kidding BMW.:augie

All I can say is, going by the way it is geared, I think she’ll be good for at least 165mph…..ish;)
 
Nice !!!

There are some great roads around the Beacons.

It's bloody good that BMW have got the FI fully sorted.
That's the one minor glitch that I would level against the KTM RC8 that I've just ridden,having got one on order and due in the next month.

It's good to see that both manufacturer's are trying to cater for the real world,with good adjustability of riding position.

I think it helps that the average German and Austrian isn't built like the average Japanese tiny person.

I know what you mean about nowhere to store stuff.

KTM came up with this option,which is a 10 litre tail pack that just clips to the rear in place of the pillion pad :

20080326-1wmdn2impmqdf445h26p79nkjt.jpg



I'm sure Baglux will do something for the HP2S in time.

Or how about Bags-Connection ? They don't actually list the HP2S on their website,but if the HP2s has the the standard BMW 6 screw cap,then it should fit your bike :

20080326-mk2y9qxxnwy9xxig4y93hbrxag.jpg




I'm pleased that you are liking the HP2S so much.

I would have been very tempted myself but the local BMW dealer is not very good and there may well be a change soon,whereas the local KTM dealer is a mate.

It'll be interesting to see these real-world sports bikes in a head to head in one of the mags in coming months.

:thumb2

Thanks for the info Arsey:thumb

I've booked a test ride on the RC8 next week. So it'll be good to do a comparison, although they are two very different machines.

cheers
:beerjug:
 
hi my first post, yonkyo whats the servicing schedule like on the s?

First service at around 300 to 750 miles.
Then annually or around 6000 to 8000 miles
with a major engine service at 31000 miles

as for the cost ???

:beerjug:
 
First service at around 300 to 750 miles.
Then annually or around 6000 to 8000 miles
with a major engine service at 31000 miles

as for the cost ???

:beerjug:

ok thanks for that i'll go and have a chat with my local dealer has yours got the abs option if so do you think its worth having?
 
ok thanks for that i'll go and have a chat with my local dealer has yours got the abs option if so do you think its worth having?

No, I didn’t bother with the ABS. I have it on my R1200GS. It has been useful when riding on slippery roads. But it can also be an annoyance when braking hard on dry bumpy surfaces.

At an extra £600 I don’t think the HP2S needs it, as the Brembo brakes have sooo much feel and control.

Its your choice though mate.:thumb
 


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