The HP2 Sport has landed

good to hear your still loving it yonkyo i changed my order for an rc8 to the hp2s and reading round the forums i'm glad i did :)

You won’t regret going for the HP2S. It truly is a unique and outstanding bit of kit. :thumb

Oooh the exhaust sound…the gorgeous engine…the exceptional gear box….the beautiful engineering….and the extraordinary handling…..oooh I’m going to garage for another look at her… :bow
 
Glad you are doing well...just not riding enough. :blast

I want to add a hugger, and the Shift-Tech is more available in the US, but it appears to tight a fit for the 190/55 profile rear tire on the HP2S. It looks like the Ilmburger is a good fit, was a direct bolt on, or did you have to "adapt" it some?

I completely agree with your thinking regarding the real world ride-ability and handling. That's what I'm after.

John


Hi john

The Ilmberger hugger for the R1200S fits the HP2S perfectly. no mods needed and took me les that 10mins to fit it.

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Ilmburger Hugger

Thanks again Yonkyo.
Just got word yesterday that my bike is in-transit. Looks like I may be riding it by the end of May. :D
 
HP2 Sport at George Whites, Swindon Today

Hello peeps

For anyone remotely interested in the HP2S and local the Swindon and isn't lucky enough to be having fun in Wales today.

As I’m working not far away from Swindon. I'll be riding my HP2S up to George Whites this morning (i think they have some sort of event on today).


I’ll be getting there for about 1130 ish and staying for about an hour or so.

Cheers
Brian
 
ECU upgrade mystery: The mystery revealed!

Hello peeps


They also did a recall upgrade to the ECU software, which apparently addresses issues with the ‘Anti-Knock System’ and also “Enhances”:rolleyes:??! the ‘Gear Shift Assist’.

So I picked the bike up from BRM and set off home. Only to discover that the Gear Shift Assist, now wasn’t working at all:blast. So I turned around and headed back to the shop.

The Tech and the service manager both had a look, but couldn’t find a solution or explanation as to why it now didn’t work. They even tried phoning BMW UK for advice. But unfortunately for me, the HP2S Tech expert was on holiday…bugger:blast.

I don’t know what made me try the Shift Assist again, but when I did, it worked fine and continues to work faultlessly so far:D.

As to why Shift Assist disappeared and the came back, is a mystery. But I sure did miss not having it.

Hi all! Just joining the forum as I'm trying to find others with a HP2S. Mine was ordered 12:th of November, built in February and i got it around the 20:th of March. It was the first one in Scandinavia. I've driven +2000km so far and it surely is a marvelous bike!
Maybe you think that 130Bhp is not a lot, but I can assure you that 110Nm of torque at 3000rpm is a lot!!! The tremendous torque along with the Öhlins and the Telelever will make you pass any Bayliss-wannabee on the outside this summer!!!

Anyway, the mystery with the ECU upgrade, when the quickshift stoped working...
I had the same problem and it also started to work after a while. Apparently after a software upgrade you'll need to drive the bike at least 5 seconds on each gear so the ECU will "learn" where the gears are. After that it will work properly.

About valve adjustment, The HP2S has a different valve system than the rest of the Boxer family. (No shit??)
When building the HP2S the project team sat down with BMW's M department and asked them about any ideas to make a good bike.
Well, after a lot of Weissbier and napkin scribbling they came up with a simular concept as there is on the K1200 models. This in turn means that you probably won't need to adjust the valves until after 30000km like on the K-series.

The service cost is indeed the same as for a regular R1200S, actually about £10 cheaper... BUT... The oil was expensive as it is the same oil used in BMW M5 and M3, so the total cost was more expensive than R1200S.

Hope this brings some light on the topic!

Best regards to you all! :beerjug:
/ J
 
Hi all! Just joining the forum as I'm trying to find others with a HP2S. Mine was ordered 12:th of November, built in February and i got it around the 20:th of March. It was the first one in Scandinavia. I've driven +2000km so far and it surely is a marvelous bike!
Maybe you think that 130Bhp is not a lot, but I can assure you that 110Nm of torque at 3000rpm is a lot!!! The tremendous torque along with the Öhlins and the Telelever will make you pass any Bayliss-wannabee on the outside this summer!!!

Anyway, the mystery with the ECU upgrade, when the quickshift stoped working...
I had the same problem and it also started to work after a while. Apparently after a software upgrade you'll need to drive the bike at least 5 seconds on each gear so the ECU will "learn" where the gears are. After that it will work properly.

About valve adjustment, The HP2S has a different valve system than the rest of the Boxer family. (No shit??)
When building the HP2S the project team sat down with BMW's M department and asked them about any ideas to make a good bike.
Well, after a lot of Weissbier and napkin scribbling they came up with a simular concept as there is on the K1200 models. This in turn means that you probably won't need to adjust the valves until after 30000km like on the K-series.

The service cost is indeed the same as for a regular R1200S, actually about £10 cheaper... BUT... The oil was expensive as it is the same oil used in BMW M5 and M3, so the total cost was more expensive than R1200S.

Hope this brings some light on the topic!

Best regards to you all! :beerjug:
/ J


Welcome to the forum Jonas

I’m glad you are still enjoying the HP2S as much as I am. It sure is a fantastic bike. Mind you, I let one of my Yamaha R1 riding mates have a go the other day. After the ride he handed back my keys and all he said was; “Nice bike, though it’s a bit agricultural isn’t it, and I rocks from side to side when you blip the throttle!!” :blast
Oh well, some people just cant get there head around the concept of the Boxer twin.

BTW thanks for solving the mystery of the lost gear assist.

Cheers :beerjug:
 
Yeah, but that's sooo coool! :D

Welcome to the forum Jonas

I let one of my Yamaha R1 riding mates have a go the other day. After the ride he handed back my keys and all he said was; “Nice bike, though it’s a bit agricultural isn’t it, and I rocks from side to side when you blip the throttle!!” :blast
Oh well, some people just cant get there head around the concept of the Boxer twin.

Cheers :beerjug:

Yeah, but isn't that what high powered american muscle cars do as well?
Actually, the Ducati mechanic at my garage took mine for a spin and noted the same thing. Mind you he had a huge grin when he came back and said: "I LOVE THE QUICKSHIFT... I WANT!!! ...At least BMW can build ONE bike!"
On the other hand that rocking motion might be something you notice at first but it has other advantages, as no gyro-effect while cornering from one side to the other like in a chicane!

Be well, I have to go out and take a ride now.... can't stop riding that thing!!! ;)
/J
 
Hello again peeps

There is a good road test in PB magazine this month.
Where they ride the HP2S on what used to be one of my favourite roads (before it got to popular with the Gwent Gestapo…sorry…Police:rolleyes:).

I went for another good blast with my mates last weekend. God I love this bike.
Now I know I keep saying this, but even though the HP2S doesn’t have the peak horse power of other sports bikes.
It nevertheless has so much real world – real road ability, it is quite astoundingly good:D.

meeting up before the ride down to West Bay..
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By the way. The MCN comic is doing a comparison test next week.
With the HP2S up against the RC8 and RSVR etc. Now that should be interesting.

As for the RC8. I had a good long ride on one last week. And although it feels like has more peak power.
I just wasn’t able to ride as fast on that, as I can on my HP2S. mainly due to the overly hard suspension, the dodgy gear box and very snatchy fuelling.
I’m sure that all these things can be sorted, but it spoiled the experience for me.:(
 
I've only gone and broke it!!

So there i was, really enjoying a great ride out with my mates on the Chepstow to Usk road. When BANG :eek:. I hit some debris in road. I thought nothing of it initially and just carried on riding, until the guy behind me indicated for me to pull over.

I was absolutely gutted when he pointed out the damage to me. What ever it was I’d hit, had smashed a hole in my belly pan fairing.:blast
Hey, I thought that Carbon Fibre was supposed to be strong.

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All i could think of was sheeeite that’s gonna cost me at least Grand.
So the following day call my local dealer. He checks his system, then he asks me if I’m sitting down.

over £1400 for a new belly pan.:eek:

So does anyone know where i can get a good repair job done:augie
 
OUCH !!

Yonkyo,
Sorry about your mishap. The belly pan sure sits low on the bike.
I just collected mine yesterday and rode it home the long way...about 150 miles. Even got rained on, which is fun on new tyres.
Great bike! I guess we'll have to watch for obstacles as well as potholes, as I'm sure the wheels are expensive also.
 
THAT HURTS!

Yonkyo - I feel so sorry for you, I've been folowing this thread for some time, enjoying it until this post. I've have just taken my belly pan off whilst cleaning and it is very fragile & vulnerable in that area.

Have a word with your dealer about sending it off to "Dream Machine" - they should be able to repair it (possibly only with fibreglass. But they will match the colour & graphics well.) I was in the motorcycle trade before I retired and we used them a lot.

I have done 4,500 miles on my bike and am currently staying in Southern Spain with it. I have 1 or 2 large stone chips already so the carbon ain't that strong - nice & light mind you! Photo attached with a home made centre stand.
 

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Yonkyo

I may be able to help. At Phase One Endurance we are used to repairing damaged carbon fibre fairings. In fact we've been getting lots of practice recently since we let James Haydon ride the bike...

We are just down the road from you in Bridgwater. All the team are away at the TT races at the moment (I leave Wednesday) but I'll ask our fairing man if he would be prepared to repair it for you for a small donation to the team.:)
 
Yonkyo,
Sorry about your mishap. The belly pan sure sits low on the bike.
I just collected mine yesterday and rode it home the long way...about 150 miles. Even got rained on, which is fun on new tyres.
Great bike! I guess we'll have to watch for obstacles as well as potholes, as I'm sure the wheels are expensive also.

Thanks snake
Yeah it rained when i picked my bike up as well:blast, which is always a worry on new tyres. I hope you enjoy your bike as much as I’m enjoying mine (apart from the fragility of the belly pan:augie).

Yonkyo - I feel so sorry for you, I've been folowing this thread for some time, enjoying it until this post. I've have just taken my belly pan off whilst cleaning and it is very fragile & vulnerable in that area.

Have a word with your dealer about sending it off to "Dream Machine" - they should be able to repair it (possibly only with fibreglass. But they will match the colour & graphics well.) I was in the motorcycle trade before I retired and we used them a lot.

I have done 4,500 miles on my bike and am currently staying in Southern Spain with it. I have 1 or 2 large stone chips already so the carbon ain't that strong - nice & light mind you! Photo attached with a home made centre stand.

Cheers Chispitas

4500 miles already, you lucky man. I’ve only clocked up 1200 miles on mine so far. Mind you, you have the weather for riding down there in Spain. Talking of which, I’m hoping to ride my HP2S down to Valencia later this year for the MotoGP, if I can figure out how I’m gonna carry my kit (I hate back packs).

Thanks for the heads-up on Dream Machine. I’ve used them in the past (they painted one of my helmets). But I was hoping to find someone more local to me.

BTW nice bike lift:cool:


Yonkyo

I may be able to help. At Phase One Endurance we are used to repairing damaged carbon fibre fairings. In fact we've been getting lots of practice recently since we let James Haydon ride the bike...

We are just down the road from you in Bridgwater. All the team are away at the TT races at the moment (I leave Wednesday) but I'll ask our fairing man if he would be prepared to repair it for you for a small donation to the team.:)

Hey Sid:thumb2

Your offer of potential help sounds fantastic. I’ve been following the Phase 1 endurance team for years:bow. And I used to know Russell Bennie when I worked at Hinkley Point. :rob

Poor old James 'crasher' Haydon. He must have cost your team a fortune in rebuilds:augie. Still, he's always been a better talker than a racer, bless him.

Please let me know if and when you can have a look at the damage for me.


Cheers :thumb
Bri
 
Yeah it rained when i picked my bike up as well:blast, which is always a worry on new tyres. Bri

Hhhmmmm, HP2's must bring out the worst in the Climate. My Megamoto got delvered,i took a few Pictures and then went to get Kitted up for a ride. . . .and it chucked down !! It stayed in the garage till the roads dried.

Bloody bad luck with the Belly Pan damage.Nice to see a couple of offers of help come in. I'll be over the 1000 mile mark by the time i get to the TT on Thursday and i'm looking forward to some serious testing.The engine in mine is really strong but i'd have preferred to have the one that you got in the Sport.
 
Greetings from the States

I have been reading with with rapt attention your discussion about the HP 2 S. All of you have inflamed my imagination. (I am new to this forum or any other so I hope I don't make too many mistakes! I didn't even sign up for a cool name.) I spoke with my BMW dealer today and he gave me a different impression than I have been getting from this forum. He doesn't think the HP2 S is at all practical. Built just for the track, not the road. An impractical bike. Based on what he said, I did not leave the deposit I had gone there to give him for a new HP2 S. I currently have almost 10,000 miles on my 800 ST, and I love the bike. I'm working hard to learn how to ride it better. I ride anytime there is no snow on the road. The HP 2 seemed to me like a good compromise between the very competent bike I have now and a hyper sportbike with bad ergonomics and way too much power. What do you all think? I don't want to ride it 120 MPH. I want to go fast as I can safely go over the narrow twisting mountain roads here in Vermont, New Hampshire and New York. PS I've never seen anyone mention what gas mileage the bike gets? Thanks for including me in your great forum. M
 
4500 miles already, you lucky man. I’ve only clocked up 1200 miles on mine so far. Mind you, you have the weather for riding down there in Spain. Talking of which, I’m hoping to ride my HP2S down to Valencia later this year for the MotoGP, if I can figure out how I’m gonna carry my kit (I hate back packs).
Unless you can find a tank bag to fit, it´s only a backpack! I didn´t want to spoil the lines of the bike on my trip down to Spain (absolutely unique here) so I just used a packpack & I didn´t notice it once I was moving. I´ll try and write a brief story in another post to explain the miles & try to help mark with his decision.:o

He doesn't think the HP2 S is at all practical. Built just for the track, not the road. An impractical bike. Based on what he said, I did not leave the deposit I had gone there to give him for a new HP2 S
Just do it Mark - the dealer doesn´t know what he´s talking about. This bike is designed as a very fast road bike - the ultimate sports Beemer for those who want to get get from A-B as quickly as possible. The fact that it´s a great track bike is a bonus. This bike was designed for twisties and will keep with all the faster sports bikes on the mountain roads plus you don´t have to oil a chain! Sorry I have never checked the mileage.:thumb
 
4,500 Miles...

I, like Mark, am fairly new to forums so I hope I am doing this correctly with not opening another thread:confused:

I have a holiday home near Marbella Spain, being retired I spend a fair amount of time here. I bought the HP2 to flit between the UK & here. I live 20 miles from what must be one of the best roads in Europe - the A397 from San Pedro De Alcantara to Ronda. 28 miles, 276 bends and no cross roads! 20 miles of it has no junctions at all!No Cameras and hardly any police, certainly not on weekdays.:D

I had to drive to Spain on Wed. 9th April with my son and the new bike arrived only on the saturday morning. Bahnstormers in Alton had it ready by mid day and I managed 300 miles by evening. Sunday I awoke to 6 inches of snow but by afternoon it had all gone so I managed another 300 miles. Monday it went in for it's first service (they put in the wrong oil but thats another story), Tues. I spent 3 hrs at the local DVLC getting a temporary log book and Wednesday my son (CBR600RR) & I headed for Plymouth and the ferry to Santander. Wow was it cold at 6am - I had frost form on the mirrors as we went past Salisbury! Plymouth we washed the bikes of any salt & the trip across Biscay was smooth & sunny. Cracked the weather, we thought. Thursday in Santander it was raining and it rained all the way to Marbella. We avoided the mountains and from Burgos (north of Madrid) it was dual carriageway all the way down. We managed the 650 miles in 10 hrs with stops - the bike was so stable and fast even in awful conditions. I have never ridden a bike that gives you so much confidence in the wet at high speed.

The next morning was sunshine and we just rode the Ronda road (and some of the surrounding ones). Richard went home and I just have been riding this road since. 40 miles to SanPedro & back. 30 miles up & down a few times and the miles mount up. I have just changed the tyres to Metzeler Sportec M3. The original Mitchelins were great and lasted 3,875 miles - I just want to try the metzelers, as I had these on an R1200S last year.

Yonkyo - I agree with everything you have said about the bike. I am still finding my feet with the stoppers as they are so powerfull. I am, I think, a little quicker so far in the twisties on my Buell but I have had that for 2 yrs and it's just like riding a 250cc:D

Anyone wanting a good ride if they are down this way - just pm me - I've also got a spare bed if you need to rest your head.

Attached a photo of my 3 bikes - The Harley I use on hols with the missus:gringo
 

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Nice words Chrispitas:thumb

I did the N-623 Santander to Burgos road last year. Good mix of very fast sweepers and twisty mountain roads, with an excellent grippy tarmac (like most Spanish roads).

I’ve also done the Marbella to Ronda road, only in a car though unfortunately. But I’d love to ride it on my HP2…you lucky git.

As for the tyres. I’m also very impressed with the OEM Michelins. They seem to warm up quick and give great feedback when cranked over, even on bumpy uneven surfaces (like most UK roads). Let us know how you get on with the Sportec M3’s. I hope they don't slow the quick steering down.

Quicker round the twisties on a Buell. I’ve never ridden one of those, but boy, it must handle well if you are faster on that than the beemer:eek:

Cheers

:beerjug:
 
Hi Yonkyo

We avoided the 623 and took the the A67 towards Palencia turning onto the N629 to Burgos. Most of the bikes coming off the ferry took the 623 and we took one look at the low clouds and knew once you hit the Escudo pass, you wouldn't see a hand in front of your face. We were gutted as I know that road well and my son wanted to do it with me. Especially as after Burgos it was going to be boring. However the dual carriageway South, driving hard in the rain, made the journey quite enjoyable as it was a challenge to drive in those conditions and see how safe & fast this machine actualy is:spitfire.

I've done about 1000 miles on the Metzelers and to be honest I can't feel any difference. The rate of turn seems the same. I do get a slight chatter on tight left handers (opposite to u guys) if I am too slow entering in 3rd when 2nd is the correct choice, but the problem is my bottle - not trusting myself to enter at a higher speed or to leave the braking later. I like to leave the bike in 3rd or 4th all the time. You don't need the other ratios. The Mitchelins gave the same feeling.

Re: The Buell - It won in "Bike" magazine, the best handling award. In a bend it handles like no other bike I have ridden but you get left behind on any straights. The beemer is much faster, It's just that I can't drive it well yet. It took me me a good 6 months to get the R1200S up to speed. So I am stilling learning the beast. It is some bike, I guess the best I have ridden but I am 65 this year and I need time to learn a bike.:rob And at £14,500 I don't want to deck it!:D
 
So there i was, really enjoying a great ride out with my mates on the Chepstow to Usk road. When BANG :eek:. I hit some debris in road. I thought nothing of it initially and just carried on riding, until the guy behind me indicated for me to pull over.

I was absolutely gutted when he pointed out the damage to me. What ever it was I’d hit, had smashed a hole in my belly pan fairing.:blast
Hey, I thought that Carbon Fibre was supposed to be strong.

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All i could think of was sheeeite that’s gonna cost me at least Grand.
So the following day call my local dealer. He checks his system, then he asks me if I’m sitting down.

over £1400 for a new belly pan.:eek:

So does anyone know where i can get a good repair job done:augie

hi yonkyo have you managed to sort this yet? apparantly the country wide demo has been crashed and they cant get the parts to repair it :( so it does'nt look like my dealer will get it in august.
 


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