The new style indicators and their issues

[G&T]

The quick glance was enough to see me but the amber light led to an assumption being made. She saw me, but had she not seen the amber light and made that assumption, she wouldn’t have pulled out. She said so!

The way I approached her was not in a hostile fashion… it was as if I was conducting a survey… I was genuinely interested in what she thought. It’d obviously be more useful to others if I could approach and survey 100 people in the same way, but I’m not going to wait for that to happen.

There is an abundance of dim witted fucktards on the roads, but I don’t want to give their ‘poor driver’ brains anything else to have to consider.

Of course she could have been looking for an excuse too. “Well it wasn’t my fault, I thought you were indicating.”

There are people paid to analyse all of this and surely if there was a problem re safety, bikes would be called in. The fact that the 1250 has them and now the 1300 is weird if it is putting lives at risk.

 

[Pukmeister]

Its probably a design feature that has not yet been contested as a safety issue by any committee.

 

[Ash700]

Of course she could have been looking for an excuse too. “Well it wasn’t my fault, I thought you were indicating.”

There are people paid to analyse all of this and surely if there was a problem re safety, bikes would be called in. The fact that the 1250 has them and now the 1300 is weird if it is putting lives at risk.

I totally agree, but I’ve dealt with people for many years and my head was giving her the benefit of the doubt for that specific non incident, incident.

In the fullness of time, I won’t be surprised if there is an adjustment in the way they function in the future. It’s generally how things develop anyway. There are many things that are ‘type approved’, by some safety committee, that become questioned.

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Sounds like a dog's dinner

 

[b4n241]

Enough interesting, 1300 sold in us have a different setup. Indicators are different and stop/position lights turn off on the side when turn light is on. See in minute 14.38.

 

[Santa-2512]

Just a thought,

what happened if you had a failure of all lights at the back

It would make sod all difference if you had a squillion indicators / brake lights/ stop lights ??

The root cause is numptys behind you ! , not the lights, lack of , brighness or any other thing you want to believe

all your doing is making an outcome fit a variable, that is topical

 

[Ash700]

Just a thought,

what happened if you had a failure of all lights at the back

It would make sod all difference if you had a squillion indicators / brake lights/ stop lights ??

The root cause is numptys behind you ! , not the lights, lack of , brighness or any other thing you want to believe

all your doing is making an outcome fit a variable, that is topical

If there are no lights at the back then this would be an anomaly. They should be working and are required by law. All that I’d like is for things to operate in a normal, logical and safe fashion. There’ll be no extra lights on my bike (front or rear) just indicators that perform their expected function.

Funnily enough, I never had brake lights on my race bikes!

 

[Hartley]

Regarding the front indicators being illuminated at all times, I fail to see the point. What are they lit for? They hardly make you more visible than the lit headlight? The whole point of an indicator is to make your intention clear to others. Being illuminated all the time can surely only reduce their effectiveness.

As for the rears , seems clear that this idea was only implemented as a stepping stone to the 1300s and other models no longer having a centre tail light.
For me the ideal solution is to have the brake and tail light illumination (red light) of indicator unit cut whilst the indicator function is in operation. (As per the dongle setup)
For those of us with 21 on 1250s would still have the centre tail light and opposing indicator operating as brake/tail lights.
BMW are hardly going to do that now as it’d be an admission that the new setup, with no centre light, on some models is flawed.

 

[b4n241]

The matter is that they already implemented wieser solution in American 1300 units, where red light (position or brake) goes off when turn light works. Indicators seem different, they MAY have internally integrated the electronics to do the switchoff, so it COULD simply be a matter of replacing rear indicators with american version.

 

[Victor c]

A Hex GS 911 will sort out all your woes with indicators on your later GS/GSA. Easy to turn off front and rear, so they just act as indicators, as well as reinstating the centre rear light as stop and tail. Or like I’ve done, simply dim the rear indicator brake light function to 70% brightness, which is still brighter than the centre brake light, and allows the indicators to be more visible whilst braking.