The tightest oil filter in the world - EVER. I'm keeping this filter for posterity.
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What would you have done if it was not moving?
And turn it on its side too drain it....Simples, take the engine off instead
Moto Guzzi mechanics used to send messages on oil filters ( which used to be inside the sump) .
i took 1 off a T3 , with a message on it , it was over 20 years old , i was going to 3 Cross in a months time for a course , so i kept it .
showed it to the tech teaching us , asked if Gerard was still around , as Gerard walked past .... showed it to him he asked where i got it , I asked about the message . he had been an apprentice at the time , came back from the pub on the xmas eve , pissed, Keith Davies ( the big boss of 3X ) said move the van over there , pointing , Gerard managed to crash it into the wall .
i explained where i got it from ( a T3 with Pantera fairing and panniers and topbox.) i had recommissioned it .
i took 1 off a T3 , with a message on it , it was over 20 years old , i was going to 3 Cross in a months time for a course , so i kept it .
showed it to the tech teaching us , asked if Gerard was still around , as Gerard walked past .... showed it to him he asked where i got it , I asked about the message . he had been an apprentice at the time , came back from the pub on the xmas eve , pissed, Keith Davies ( the big boss of 3X ) said move the van over there , pointing , Gerard managed to crash it into the wall .
i explained where i got it from ( a T3 with Pantera fairing and panniers and topbox.) i had recommissioned it .
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we (Corsa Italiana ) sold a new bike to Paul at Moto Mecca , i , thinking that Mike RDC , the mechanic next door would do the 1st service , so i removed the filter , and wrote " hello Fatso " on it , thinking Mike would read it , and call me .
Paul sold the bike @ 400 miles to Geoff at Baines Racing , Geoff did the 1st service , took off the filter , got all upset , and rang RDC , shouting down the phone at him ! RDC didn't know what he was on about, and shouted back !
Months later there was a recall on the drive box (FD to BMW ) , i knew he had the bike , and went up to do the job and meet Geoff .
while i was swopping the box , i asked where it had come from , he explained , i said , i left a message on the filter for RDC.
the penny dropped for Geoff , and he said he had shouted at RDC , i said , OH DEAR !!! .
Geoff rang up RDC , who was not pleased to talk to him , but he did it on loudspeaker , and apologised , i had to explain that I left the "hello Fatso " message .
Geoff and RDC didn't like each other anyway ! this did not help them .
Paul sold the bike @ 400 miles to Geoff at Baines Racing , Geoff did the 1st service , took off the filter , got all upset , and rang RDC , shouting down the phone at him ! RDC didn't know what he was on about, and shouted back !
Months later there was a recall on the drive box (FD to BMW ) , i knew he had the bike , and went up to do the job and meet Geoff .
while i was swopping the box , i asked where it had come from , he explained , i said , i left a message on the filter for RDC.
the penny dropped for Geoff , and he said he had shouted at RDC , i said , OH DEAR !!! .
Geoff rang up RDC , who was not pleased to talk to him , but he did it on loudspeaker , and apologised , i had to explain that I left the "hello Fatso " message .
Geoff and RDC didn't like each other anyway ! this did not help them .
rip off the body , there are plate tools that you can use to remove the plate.
Perhaps its a thing with the 1250 as I just home serviced my 2019 GSA last weekend (all genuine parts) and had to resort to my chain loop wrench around the base of the oil filter and a short 1/2" breaker bar to undo it, crushing the filter outer casing as it tightened. The cup type tool felt like it was going to round off the casing under torque. It was main dealer serviced the last time the oil filter was changed. The paper trick is a good idea, noted for future use thanks.
Perhaps the filters can get tighter with heat cycles over time, though mine was way less than 200Nm (probably more like 70, still way too tight).
I never resort to puncturing filters with a screwdriver anymore as it risks shearing the casing apart (did that once to a mates very rusty 600 Bandit HiFlo filter as a last resort and it was thin walled and just ripped apart making things worse, had to spin off the old filter base with a hammer and chisel).
Perhaps the filters can get tighter with heat cycles over time, though mine was way less than 200Nm (probably more like 70, still way too tight).
I never resort to puncturing filters with a screwdriver anymore as it risks shearing the casing apart (did that once to a mates very rusty 600 Bandit HiFlo filter as a last resort and it was thin walled and just ripped apart making things worse, had to spin off the old filter base with a hammer and chisel).
Cried a bit....
Last resort is when you have to get out a cold chisel and a big hammer. And drift the filter round at its case. It's time consuming, tiring and worrying work.
I had to do that once on a 20 year old bike. Which still had it's original filter....
The 1100/1150 is the absolute worst bike to come across an with overtightened filter. As some of you will know, it's enclosed into the bottom of the engine. You can't grab it with anything. You can drift if.
You just wheel the bike into the street and set fire to it.
Does that loosen the filter?You just wheel the bike into the street and set fire to it.
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