The Trip 500

[Arsey]

Just announced

 

[wessie]

Fills a gap in the range but they need to price it right to compete with RE etc as a nice but not outstanding parallel twin in a crowded segment. They seemed to price the Aprilia mentioned in the article to compete with CF Moto so that gives a good indication it might be competitive.

 

[snelly]

It's been a long time since we've had anything other than a v twin from moto guzzi;; i remember a 250-4; and a T2 two stroke parallel twin which was a badge engineered Benelli when they were owned by Da- Tomasso in the seventies and early eighties;; i think it's a bold move by them; and with the right pricing should do well;; i used to like their small 500cc v twin engines.
Cheers for the heads up Arsey;

 

[squibb34]

So the Trip brings together the 457 cc Piaggio group engine, built in India, with a chassis/running gear assembled in Mandello del Lario.

It will be interesting to see the reaction from the MG faithful.

Pricing will be crucial, but I'm not sure I really see the point of the exercise given the two existing 457 offerings from sister brand Aprilia, the RS & Tuono. Neither of those had much impact in a crowded A2 friendly sector in the UK. Maybe they hope to do better elsewhere. 'Green Grove' looks quite classy.

 

[wessie]

Maybe they hope to do better elsewhere.

it's a crowded sector in the Italian market as well, with Chinese made Benelli 500 and this new Moto Morini (with real V twin) chasing sales with faux Italian heritage, as well as the likes of RE, KTM/Husq, Triumph, various Japanese bikes and the other Chinese brands in there as well

 

[WrexhamWrider]

it's a crowded sector in the Italian market as well, with Chinese made Benelli 500 and this new Moto Morini (with real V twin) chasing sales with faux Italian heritage, as well as the likes of RE, KTM/Husq, Triumph, various Japanese bikes and the other Chinese brands in there as well

How do Benelli and Morini perform in the Italian market? Would an Italian build give Guzzi a leg up there, or is it more about product and marketing? Triumph are only doing what Benelli and Morini are doing, and they sell bucketloads over here; I'm not sure British-built Nortons or BSAs would put a stop to that. Have Guzzi got any brand cachet in the big volume small-bike markets of Asia?

Whether the Trip 500 is a success will be up to Piaggio's marketing department, in which case, it'll be a dud. Shame, as I really like it.

 

[theoneandonly]

WANKERS !!!
if they had done a single , i could understand it , they have many old singles , but no parallel twins ( TTBOMK )

 

[wessie]

How do Benelli and Morini perform in the Italian market?

No idea how Morini are doing and the new 350 is too new to tell

Benelli seems to do okay, with the TRK500 bike doing well, although the other Chinese made bikes will be biting at their heels now.

 

[wessie]

WANKERS !!!
if they had done a single , i could understand it , they have many old singles , but no parallel twins ( TTBOMK )

do you have snelly on ignore?

they made a parallel twin using a Benelli motor

Moto Guzzi 250 TS two-stroke twin

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[theoneandonly]

i don't count badge engineered shit.

 

[Arsey]

 

[snelly]

WANKERS !!!
if they had done a single , i could understand it , they have many old singles , but no parallel twins ( TTBOMK )

I think the market is determining the format;could you imagine a flat single with a bacon slicer on the side.

 

[TYKEBBS]

I like the look of the Trip , however as others have said it is a segment of te market that is becoming more crowded...its success or otherwise is price dependant IMHO

 

[Arsey]

I think it looks great .
May well appeal to new customers as I’m sure some of the Guzzi faithful will be up in arms, especially the British ones who usually have a large dose of vanity and blinkeritis as well
I’ll go look at one when they’re out .Had a gander at the new Morini 3 1/2 last week and it looks fabulous. Just a tad small for my knackered back and it looks like the Guzzi has the same seat height at 790mm.
The Morini ‘only’ puts out 33bhp compared to the Trips 47bhp but is nearly 20kgs lighter at 162 kgs.
Went to a dealer near LHR last week and he said it’s flying out of the showroom .
The Guzzi needs to be priced in the same ball park at around £4299 OTR to have any chance of success.

 

[benellifred]

How do Benelli and Morini perform in the Italian market?

Benelli TRK 502 (built by QJ moto in China) was a bestseller in the Italian market when it was released.

Personally the only non Italian/Italian new small bike I’d consider is the new Morini 3 1/2. V twin rather than parallel and quite the looker

Fred