Theft of stuff (expensive) from panniers

Take up playing bowls or golf or something ,,,,, if you worry so much about “ Stuff “
 
true, I think. But someone's buying the stolen bikes / bits of stolen bikes.

The thread is about the theft of valuables (or I guess anything) from motorcycle luggage. For heaven's sake don’t broaden it to “Your bike or dust caps will be stolen as soon as you hit the M25 and shipped to Lithuania in under two minutes”.

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true, I think. But someone's buying the stolen bikes / bits of stolen bikes.
Fair point 👍
Never been offered a new Klim or Rukka suit for £50 though.

I think the obvious thing is not to travel with anything valuable that you cant carry with you to a restaurant or similar.
 
That's the thing...if I pull up anywhere and change my clothes and nip out to a restaurant or go for a hike somewhere random and get back to broken panniers and top box with all my gear gone, it makes it a nightmare to find a new helmet and then the pain of the losses. Still stumped, as my house insurance, bike insurance or travel insurance just wont cover this. Any ideas?

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I have started you a fresh thread.

Richard

If I was you, or at least if I thought like you, I’d simply stay at home for a week instead.

You could rest assured that everything was safe and keep yourself busy by going round to your neighbours and asking them if they could smell gas. Or don your hi-viz check for trip hazards in your local area perhaps?
 
Take up playing bowls or golf or something

My very limited knowledge of golf, tells me that the sticks might be worth well north of a thousand quid. These are carted around on wheeled trolly things. The wheeled trollies are left, unattended, whilst the Pringle clad owners get pissed in the clubhouse.
 
My very limited knowledge of golf, tells me that the sticks might be worth well north of a thousand quid. These are carted around on wheeled trolly things. The wheeled trollies are left, unattended, whilst the Pringle clad owners get pissed in the clubhouse.
A bit like bicycles, a man never admits to the actual cost of his golfing equipment. So my father in law tells me
 
Think about Camping in a Tent. When was the last time you had something stolen from a Canvas bag secured by a zip, in the middle of a field surrounded by strangers?! And these days tents, mats & sleeping bags are bloody expensive bits of kit!
 
Probably best not to take the bike out if worried about theft and vandalism. Maybe best not to have one at all if you're a worrier.
 
My mates, sisters, cousins, dog walkers, nieces, baby sitters, uncles, granny left her panniers for 30 seconds in France and they were stolen off bike.

FFS, stop wetting the bed guys.

Take reasonable precautions, park where you can see your bike if possible.

Some of the scaremongering on here is counterproductive, especially If it stops someone relaxing on a trip.

I’ve lost count of the countries I’ve ridden in - I’ve never had anything stolen off any bike.

Insert Petrol - Ride Bike - Park - Eat - Sleep - Apply Common Sense at all times - Repeat.

Enjoy your holidays……..

Oh, if anyone wants to borrow a pacsafe cage thing PM me.
 
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That's the thing...if I pull up anywhere and change my clothes and nip out to a restaurant or go for a hike somewhere random and get back to broken panniers and top box with all my gear gone, it makes it a nightmare to find a new helmet and then the pain of the losses. Still stumped, as my house insurance, bike insurance or travel insurance just wont cover this. Any ideas?

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I have started you a fresh thread.

Richard
You either take it all with you or secure it - your choice.

I have NEVER had anything stolen from my bike or panniers.

You could if you wish to secure it all to the bike - use a Pacsafe item. They have secure netting/bag from small to very large
 
Park at the restaurant and sit at a window seat so you can keep a beady eye on your steed at all times

Seriously I have never heard of it happening as you describe which is not to say it hasn't ever but eliminating all risks means you would never go further than your own front door
My mate went back to his tent to get something at the Bol d or one year only to find 2 frogs in the process of relieving him of his Brembo calipers on his very tasty Fz 750; talk about nick of time; nothing in his luggage or tent had been touched.
On the other hand; i've left my bike parked in the middle of town with; throw over panniers; roll bag ; tank bag and keys in the ignition for 2hrs whilst wandering around a war museum in Belgium;; the keys were unintentional. Very honest town.
 
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Take reasonable precautions, park where you can see your bike if possible.

“Where did you go on your trip, mate?”

“All over, mate. It was brilliant. I went to Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Nice and Lisbon”

“Which city was best, mate?”

“Hard to say, as I parked and stood so I could see my bike all the time”

“Mate, best to go back by plane, then?”

“Sounds like a plan but I spent a fortune on me kit, so I’ve got to use it or she’ll rip me a new one. It’s a nightmare, mate”
 
Except when you have your nose down on the menu / wine list, the bike is perhaps 50 metres away and you are dressed in your bike gear. You happen to spot youths admiring your steed and think “That’s great, love to see lads looking at motorcycles”. Then, just as you are trying to explain to the waitress in Franglais, that you’d like lashings of ketchup on your scran, you think you see one of the youths has a screwdriver. In horror, you lever yourself out of your chair, push the waitress headfirst into the salad buffet, dance / waddle / swerve and sweat between diners, collide with the door, leg it (sort of) across the corridor (wishing you’d had a piss earlier) and out into the car park. Now sprint (or not) the 50 metres and regret not having your trusty curtain pole…..

That is the likely reality.

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In fairness a mate of mine had his first KTM SMC nicked from in front of the restaraunt he was eating in and he was sat at the window so he could see the bike

4 blokes loaded it into van and were off before he could get out of his seat ( and he isnt fat)
That was many years ago and in Leicester
 
“Where did you go on your trip, mate?”

“All over, mate. It was brilliant. I went to Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Nice and Lisbon”

“Which city was best, mate?”

“Hard to say, as I parked and stood so I could see my bike all the time”

“Mate, best to go back by plane, then?”

“Sounds like a plan but I spent a fortune on me kit, so I’ve got to use it or she’ll rip me a new one. It’s a nightmare, mate”

I was really referring to a coffee stop or lunch during the day. :)

Clearly overnight parking is a bit different.


Again, not rocket science , take sensible precautions as always.

I just fear that people will be put off travelling by the UKGS Doom Monger Detachment.

That really would be “stealing” something


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Regarding being able to see one’s bike during the day.

With 1 person, it’s a penalty I’m happy to take. Especially as in most countries you can park in a lovely square.

With 2 people, I watch the bikes and von stolberg goes and has a wander, then swap.


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