Thinking about the 800gs but---

[ktmmark]

Fancy the 800gs but 2 things i wish they had done
1/ fitted the tubeless rims like the 1200, being able to plug a tyre has been a godsend on trips
2/ would love to have seen the belt drive fitted as an option as i don't plan on doing a lot of off road work.
But mainly its the tubed rims i hate, even my old honda xl600lmf has tubeless rims.

 

[GunZenBomZ]

I don't know of anyone that has retrofitted an F8 with tubeless wheels, but it must be possible. Get rid of the spokes use solid f650 alloy jobbies.

Good thing about f8 is with steady riding you get 230-250 mile range on 16litres of fuel. Even with full touring kit or two up.

 

[snappo]

I could have sworn I'd seen pics of an 800 with alloys, maybe it was a 1200 tho. I carry 2 tubes of Motul tyre weld stuff, not had to use it yet tho! I got almost 15k out of the OEM chain, now got a Gold DID on, I don't find cleaning and lubing it that much of a chore, you could always get a Scottoiler for it? If you've not test ridden one yet, I'd seriously recommend it, I bloody love mine!

 

[ktmmark]

No i need to sort a test ride,can live with the chain (shame no belt option though)had a gpz 305 with a belt as a work bike.
The tubed tyre is just a pain as any repair is wheel out etc,we had 5 flat tyres in india on tubed tyres of which 3 needed tubes to repair, tubless wheels i just plug and go take 10min and on our way again
Realy fancy the 800 though but the 1200 or 1100 gs will have to go first

 

[rce]

Why not save some dosh and get the F650GS, more road oriented but can handle the rougher stuff too.

Still chain but alloys so tubeless. Fitting alloys to the F800GS from the F650GS is not a goer as F650GS 19" front wheel and only single disc.

 

[SERVDAVE]

Race has a good point, sounds like the 650gs a go! I've had my 650 for 2 and a half years and she's been fantastic!

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

You can convert the spoked rims to tubeless, if I remember correctly there was a thread recently about it: either here or at ADVrider.

 

[casperghst42]

You can convert the spoked rims to tubeless, if I remember correctly there was a thread recently about it: either here or at ADVrider.

This thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673291, there is also http://www.tubliss.com/ but that require an 18" rim.

And then there are the different hacks available.

Casper

 

[Dave Ett]

What's wrong with tubes? These days they're very good - tyres and roads have come on massively, so punctures are few and far between.

Belts do have advantages over chains for a road bike, but with a properly setup Scottoiler you chain will last 25,000 miles (years for most people) and the 'fling' will be minimal.

You could always get an F800ST and stick high bars on it...

 

[nick.ct]

Hi Mark

Good to hear you're back, look forward to hearing the tales, would PM you but..............

Possible to lace 1100 / 1200 rims on the 800GS hubs?

 

[Dean]

What's wrong with tubes? These days they're very good - tyres and roads have come on massively, so punctures are few and far between.

Unlessyou have had multiple punctures in India or you name is Tim Cullis

I guess its your past experience that draws ones opinion

spoked wheels on global travelling 11's and 12's are Tubeless why did BMW not put it on the F8?

What advantage does Tubed have over tubeless

Yes I have tubed

Its about time that BMW launched the BMW F850 GSA - Dakar - quadrupel Black along with spoked tubeless, now that would sell like hot cakes and roar at the Tiger8

 

[Dave Ett]

What advantage does Tubed have over tubeless

You can alway chuck in a new tube if you get a gash too big to repair in the tube. If you gash a tubeless, you're buggered. Far easier to carry a spare tube than a spare tyre, and to be fair the heavy duty tubes are pretty damn robust.

Some say they slow the steering, but I can't say I noticed when I fitted mine. Reckon a bike wth a 21inch skinny wheel steers quickly no matter what!

If they wheels are such an issue, just have Hagon rebuild them with the rims of your choice...

 

[Micky]

What's wrong with tubes?

+1

Girlfriend Sue (Gracie on here) and I did 20,000 miles each on our F650GS's (no tubes) round Russia, Asia, Mongolia and the Gobi Desert and back again ...

Then we did an overland trip through Europe, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan and up the Karakorum Highway ...

You've guessed it ... not a puncture

Get a puncture because of a bit of a gash in the tyre on a tubed rim and you're going to be able to mend it ... get a bad cut in a tubeless tyre and you're fecked. Unless you are carrying a tube to mend it, in which case see above

 

[Dean]

AHA, but why cant you carry a tube even though you have tubeless just for the nasty ones


Best of both worlds small punctures plug and go nasty gash, Tube and Roll

 

[v8legend]

Possible to lace 1100 / 1200 rims on the 800GS hubs?

They've got a different number of spokes.

 

[ktmmark]

The reason i like tubeless wheels are
1/tyre can't creep and rip the valve out
2/if you get a flat tyre it deflates slower
3/easy to plug and go
4/less unsprung mass
and you can fit a tube if the shit his the fan

Had 6 flat tyres last year one on my way home from work made me 10 min late home from work.Others were on tubed honda's when riding 8000 miles in india,always able to get them fixed fast (well it was in India) uk would be a different story and a recovery truck

Remember this is the reason i like tubeless wheels,and you may love tubed tyres,tyre leavers and taking your wheels in and out

 

[ktmmark]

Hi Mark

Good to hear you're back, look forward to hearing the tales, would PM you but..............

Possible to lace 1100 / 1200 rims on the 800GS hubs?

Nick hi mate,what you doing reading the 650/800 thread ? you getting one

 

[Tim Cullis]

Because of my poor luck with punctures I deliberately chose to hire a G650GS for a week in Morocco last month on the basis it had alloy wheels and tubeless tyres.

When I arrived I found the bike had spokes and tubed tyres.

Oh well. Keep Calm and Carry On. Unfortunately, although I only covered 1500km I got a puncture. I am jinxed.

If the F800GS had an option for tubeless tyres I would buy one.

 

[Dave Ett]

The one thing you definitely can't do with a tubeless tyre:

Run it at a low pressure to improve traction in crappy conditions.

How many people are good enough to get the benefit of that, and have had the foresight to fit rimlocks before they set off is another question...

 

[Dave Ett]

Oh well. Keep Calm and Carry On. Unfortunately, although I only covered 1500km I got a puncture. I am jinxed. .

Maybe you need to carry mousse and sneak it in once out of the hiring car park!