This is quite interesting.

[Wapping]

It will certainly reduce the amount of GS machines. Putting them in the "High end" class. And maybe even with an AA or Apple CP onboard infotainment dash !

At the moment, it seems to me that the Chinese are simply copying ‘western’ designed bikes and knocking them out cheaply. That’s easy to do. This differs from the start of the Japanese motorcycle boom, when bikes like the Honda 750-4 were truly revolutionary, smashing the UK manufacturers at a stroke. This may change if the Chinese buy up ‘western’ bike manufacturers (KTM anyone?) and buy in the intellectual knowledge. We can see the Japanese car manufacturers being protectionist, merging with one another,

BMW have certainly lost their way with their in-house developed navigation app, itself phone based. Garmin, to some degree or another, lost the plot when they started to pander to bikermates’ demands that the units should be turned into infotainment systems, without which no ride was complete. At the moment Chigee and all the others are just comparatively simple ‘TV screens’ mirroring what is on a phone and / or picking up all the ‘must have’ data from the bike and / or on the wonder wheel things to save prodding at the dumb screen with a gloved hand.

I can see a case whereby Garmin ties up with a manufacturer to put the navigation chip into the bike itself, rather than make it entirely reliant on a phone. Simple A to B route creation can be done via a TFT screen or the owner can just speak (via BlueTooth or a local WiFi network) to the bike, saying “Take me to B down wiggly roads and find me a place to stop on the way for a brew and a view and a good hotel with parking at the end” or some such, AI then sorts it out. See the post on AI working with MyRoute as a sample.

 

[Wapping]

Google often has new developments on their maps before they are built. Presumably they are linked into the same planning database the Post Office uses to generate new postcodes.

It took Google (amongst others) months to accept my daughter’s new build, in a small development of three houses. The post code from the Post Office, was very quick…. Except nobody (including the postman) could find it.

 

[Wapping]

One of the great mysteries of Google maps is that it does not allow turn by turn navigation of routes created in Google MyMaps. If it did Garmin, Tom Tom, MRA, Kurviger, Calimoto etc. would be rendered surplus to requirements overnight.

That’s a mystery to me, too.

 

[wessie]

It took Google (amongst others) months to accept my daughter’s new build, in a small development of three houses. The post code from the Post Office, was very quick…. Except nobody (including the postman) could find it.

hence the "often" qualifier

was she on an unadopted cul de sac or one of these Duck Duck Go disciples?

 

[Wapping]

was she on an unadopted cul de sac

It was a regular cul de sac road, which had one old house with huge garden on it. The developer brought the old house and its land, putting three new large houses onto the site.

I have no idea what Duck Duck Go is, though I fancy I may well have eaten some in Shanghai.

 

[Pukmeister]

Simple A to B route creation can be done via a TFT screen or the owner can just speak to the bike, saying “Take me to B down wiggly roads and put a picture of a naked blonde with big tits on the TFT whilst you are at it” or some such.
AI then sorts it out.

 

[Wapping]

It wouldn’t surprise me at all.

 

[Bigcats]

You miss my point, sorry perhaps I should have been clearer. I understand the ££s side but what use is an expensive and less effective sat nav when mobiles are quite often better

And the fact if I lost or broke my phone anywhere...

I could go to a shop
Buy a replacement
Log in to my account and I'm back on the road....with all my saved POIs ready to go.
Nothing else needed other than a data connection

Or whilst sat in MacDonalds without a laptop.

 

[GrinningGSer]

I swear the street mapping Google has done has to be right up there as one of the most amazing things humans ever did.

I don’t think I would have authorised this project; Surely impossible

 

[timeandtide]

I have no idea what Duck Duck Go is, though I fancy I may well have eaten some in Shanghai.

It’s a browser that says that it doesn’t track your visited sites (to the best of my non-tech understanding!)

 

[Deleted account 250722001]

The heavy reliance on being connected could bring the downfall of many.
Data kept on an SSD / micro sd IMHO is more reliable -
No account needed, nor web, nor membership, no cloud, nada, niente.
Simples works

 

[Bigcats]

The heavy reliance on being connected could bring the downfall of many.
Data kept on an SSD / micro sd IMHO is more reliable -
No account needed, nor web, nor membership, no cloud, nada, niente.
Simples works

Google maps doesn't need to remain connected....no apps do

Like any sat nav you can download all maps prior to your journey if needs be....

However what it doesn't need, that a SatNav does, is a connection to a laptop to update maps or make changes...that can be done whilst sat in MacDonalds whilst you eat a burger on your phone.

And if I that phone I can just buy a new one, log in and carry on where as a standalone Satnav needs a laptop....

They are called smartphones for a reason

 

[er-minio]

The search is severely limited when working offline.

It can work offline, but it’s not its primary or best scenario.

Again, non connected/standalone GPS units have their specific uses.
Google Maps has its other uses. The overlap a bit, but not exactly the same products.

Smartphones can have triangulation issues in absence of network or some areas, whereas even an older gpsmap would get a fix in a few seconds (I use both systems, experienced it firsthand too).

Again: different uses. It’s not a war against each other.

 

[Deleted account 250319001]

I used google maps all over Norway, Sweden & Finland last year, i did download the maps before i set off, but i completely forgot i'd done that, and was not reminded at anytime. I was pretty impressed. I'd never yse anything else now.