This is why: Racing numbers on 'trail' bikes.

[Deleted account 211025001]

What ever Frogger, you got loads of helpful advice when you came on here wanting to know if your bike was 'fully' legal. Your attitude then, was that you knew better

Since then peeps have offered to take you out on the trails and ride with you but, again, you know better and blow them out

I call ******

Andres

 

[squid]

I do read much of the news about lane closures with dismay.

I've done a few days on the GS and have been thinking about a green lane bike for a while. The attraction for me is to get off the busy roads and into the country side just to explore.

The same thing really as other users of the country side.

As to some degree an outsider of the off road biking culture I see why other users don't like it.

As a mountainbiker I have been naffed off a few times by people going too fast with over loud pipes. The approach of such riders does have an unpleasent effect especially when your in a world of our own so to speak.

Its a case of showing respect in order to gain it. I fear though there is a big hurdle to get over. I've seen the evil glares when I have been out on the GS with well behaved /experienced green laners.

The arsehole ramblers will never be won over, the others need to be convinced bikers are decent folk out to cause no harm.

 

[BAKERMAN]

Leading my first Summer walk tonight for our local ramblers, do come it starts at a pub and we have a pint at the end, nice people as it happens

 

[BAKERMAN]

Focussing so much on the number itself makes you no better than an uninformed idiot rambler that thinks every rider with a number is an illegal rider. You are as uneducated as they are.

As above, do come there nice folks

 

[frogger]

What ever Frogger, you got loads of helpful advice when you came on here wanting to know if your bike was 'fully' legal. Your attitude then, was that you knew better

Since then peeps have offered to take you out on the trails and ride with you but, again, you know better and blow them out

I call ******

Andres

Utter nonsense Andres. A while back I asked for advice and was given a load of fluff, trollox and nonsense and was scoffed at because I should've known better.

No one has offered to take me out for a ride and I have not blown anyone out, in fact I have become part of the TRF in Surrey and have been riding with them a lot since January, pretty much every week, WITH MY NUMBERS without a single comment or issue.

Seems to me there is a certain group of people on here that suffer a certain mentality affliction. Don't worry, I'll continue to know better

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Some weeks ago I suggested that I looked forward to seeing you out on the trails on your now "100% legal" bike. You are welcome to come out with me anytime you like on the trails that I have been shown around Llangollen.
But if you turn up on a bike with race numbers on, I will insist that they are removed before we turn a wheel.
Simple as.
Mark

My numbers cannot be removed unless I remove the entire side panel sticker. They are part of the bike. Guess I won't be riding with you then

No one has offered to take me out for a ride and I have not blown anyone out.................

Andres

 

[Rushy]

Focussing so much on the number itself makes you no better than an uninformed idiot rambler that thinks every rider with a number is an illegal rider. You are as uneducated as they are.

The numbers creates yet another reason for the most vocal faction of the rambler/walkers groups to complain about trail riders. The fact that you insist that you are 'not doing anything illegal' and feel that you should be allowed to do what you want and will continue to do what you want until its made illegal doesn't make you sound very sympathetic to the idea of keeping the countryside available to us all by riding as stealthily as possible and giving others less reason to object.

Moreover your simplistic attitude of " I'll do whatever I want mate , I aint breaking no laws " is unfortunately far too common place in today's society and is leading to greater rules, laws and restrictions to our movements, actions & civil liberties that would just not be necessary if people were more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others.

All the guys are asking you to do is cover your numbers up.They serve no purpose and are of no benefit outside of an event. There is factual evidence above that they present an image to the uninitiated that is potentially detrimental to the survival of the pastime that you, and many others, enjoy. Why risk antagonising those that will possibly help to make sure that your actual pastime is illegal even if your numbers still aren't.

Go on......post some pictures without the numbers on ...........................no photoshopping please

 

[squid]

Leading my first Summer walk tonight for our local ramblers, do come it starts at a pub and we have a pint at the end, nice people as it happens

Will they be sacrificing a biker to the god of boot gaitors

Perhaps you should then arrange a talk by a respected trail rider to share views and concerns?

 

[Pipster]

Don't worry, I'll continue to know better

You tell um pal

All this anti race number anti KTM anti enduro bikes ...The only thing that gets trail riders a bad name is is the minority of riders who ride like complete cocks on the lanes

Whats next do we all have to wear black belstaff jackets and open face helmets and ride a Serrow

Half of you that have laid into frogger ride the trails dressed up like a pro enduro rider with your Alpine stars full face heltmets enduro jackets...

Even the BMW boys all dressed up like a Paris dakar rider in your twat suits and Arai tour X'sss not a good look

 

[frogger]

- riding as stealthily as possible and giving others less reason to object.

- "I'll do whatever I want mate , I aint breaking no laws "

- if people were more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others.

- All the guys are asking you to do is cover your numbers up.

Your approach may be to act in such a way as to not cause objection by others, that doesn't mean your approach is correct and it doesn't mean other people should follow that approach or that is the most effective approach. Even if I take my numbers off there will still be illegal riders everywhere and there will still be ramblers objecting. Don't you see that?

I don't have a 'I'll do whatever I want' attitude at all, I've said before, I let my riding and legal bike do the talking and I stay withing the confines of the law. I don't have to over apply or over interpret the law to feel OK about the things I do. Oh, and I don't use the word 'aint'

If people were more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others we would have world peace.

The guys are not just asking me to cover my numbers up, I am being called a fecking idiot, a chav and a bunch of other things and that for having a number on my bike and never having met me. If only they were being more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others we wouldn't be having this argument.

 

[steveh]

what he said ..

Your approach may be to act in such a way as to not cause objection by others, that doesn't mean your approach is correct and it doesn't mean other people should follow that approach or that is the most effective approach. Even if I take my numbers off there will still be illegal riders everywhere and there will still be ramblers objecting. Don't you see that?

I don't have a 'I'll do whatever I want' attitude at all, I've said before, I let my riding and legal bike do the talking and I stay withing the confines of the law. I don't have to over apply or over interpret the law to feel OK about the things I do. Oh, and I don't use the word 'aint'

If people were more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others we would have world peace.

The guys are not just asking me to cover my numbers up, I am being called a fecking idiot, a chav and a bunch of other things and that for having a number on my bike and never having met me. If only they were being more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others we wouldn't be having this argument.

hes right you know

 

[Rushy]

Your approach may be to act in such a way as to not cause objection by others, that doesn't mean your approach is correct and it doesn't mean other people should follow that approach or that is the most effective approach. Even if I take my numbers off there will still be illegal riders everywhere and there will still be ramblers objecting. Don't you see that?

Of course I see that, but thats a bit like discussing the litter problem and saying "there's no point in telling me not to drop my little tiny sweetie wrapper on the floor that won't make a difference , you want to focus on those people who eat at McDonalds and then chuck all of the packaging out of the car window and those bloody fly tippers, Im not part of the problem"

I don't have a 'I'll do whatever I want' attitude at all

I was referring to the race numbers and in that respect you do .

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If people were more sympathetic, empathetic and respectful to others we would have world peace.

That would be a bonus

The guys are not just asking me to cover my numbers up, I am being called a fecking idiot, a chav and a bunch of other things

Not by me

 

[BAKERMAN]

Perhaps you should then arrange a talk by a respected trail rider to share views and concerns?

Talking to the group tonight, they say that they have a problem with cyclists on Mountain bike more than motor bikes, they said that they can hear the trail bikes comming, cyclist ride past real quick and they get spooked most are elderly and feel almost mugged .

 

[Pipster]

Of course I see that, but thats a bit like discussing the litter problem and saying "there's no point in telling me not to drop my little tiny sweetie wrapper on the floor that won't make a difference , you want to focus on those people who eat at McDonalds and then chuck all of the packaging out of the car window and those bloody fly tippers, Im not part of the problem"


I was referring to the race numbers and in that respect you do .

That would be a bonus



Not by me

Feck me the guys got race numbers on big deal I myself would not lane with race numbers on but thats my call ,as it is his to leave his numbers on

I have ridden the lanes with numbers on the bike before as a rider in long distance trials events such as the Swindion LDT and the Witley 100 LDT is that ok or should I stop entering such events ?



How many of you pogo riders have got full size number plates

 

[judge]

If I don't like the idea of you riding your bike on the lanes I couldn't care less if you had numbers on your bike or dressed as a fekkin smurf - I don't want you riding your bike on the routes I want to walk my dog/ride my horse etc....

 

[Pipster]

If I don't like the idea of you riding your bike on the lanes I couldn't care less if you had numbers on your bike or dressed as a fekkin smurf - I don't want you riding your bike on the routes I want to walk my dog/ride my horse etc....

Well stick to the footpaths and bridleways

 

[squid]

Talking to the group tonight, they say that they have a problem with cyclists on Mountain bike more than motor bikes, they said that they can hear the trail bikes comming, cyclist ride past real quick and they get spooked most are elderly and feel almost mugged .

I can see their point if mountainbikers are tanking along footpaths, I always used to stop or slow right down, especially near dogs in case they moved accross the path.

On the other hand I've never had the evil glare on a push bike like I felt on the GS by a few.

Either way, it's down to respect. If all bikers gave slower users the right of way people would be less alarmed. I do think loud exhausts are an issue too though.

Do you think your group were less anti biking due to your hobby and representations?

 

[BAKERMAN]

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Do you think your group were less anti biking due to your hobby and representations?

I`m sure they were a bit, and also that I`m the local baker.

As you know all these things add up, slowing down stopping just general good manners, open face helmet etc

Great to see some new poster, though.

Sorry guys but you`ll miss out some great days with the likes of Timpo guiding you into the unknown all for the fact of your bike tattoo

 

[BAKERMAN]

How many of you pogo riders have got full size number plates

I have





































in the garage but I have diplomatic am unite as my bikes not Orange.

 

[Rushy]

Feck me the guys got race numbers on big deal I myself would not lane with race numbers on but thats my call ,as it is his to leave his numbers on

I have ridden the lanes with numbers on the bike before as a rider in long distance trials events such as the Swindion LDT and the Witley 100 LDT is that ok or should I stop entering such events ?

How many of you pogo riders have got full size number plates

Fecking idiot, chav and a bunch of other things