Discussing the merits of an alternative bike in a section almost entirely populated by those who have already committed to the WC is probably the most futile exercise I can think of
Agreed, but fun to lurk.
They don't want to put after-market accessories manufacturers out of business. Like horn makers, seat makers, screen makers, headlight and lamp makers, panniers makers...Its a small point but one of the few 'complaints' in the article was about the back of the riders legs getting covered in crap from the rear wheel . I notice that this seems to have badly afflicted all previous incarnations of the 12 so much so that everyone seems to fit those mudslinger thingies. Surprised that haven't fixed it with the new one.......that is all
What IS futile is discussing entirely non-existant issues, like headshake, too flimsy switchgear, too fast (now, that's a good one), too much plastic... No, let me re-phrase this last one: discussing plastic is not futile, but then it will end with «Did they have to use all that steel? Now the bike weighs a ton!», or «Did they have to us all that aluminium? Now the bike is so expensive!»
Totally. I think they should open a new section titled «Discussing the merits of an alternative bike compared to a new bike by people who have never ridden it, and who don't plan to.»Discussing the merits of an alternative bike in a section almost entirely populated by those who have already committed to the WC is probably the most futile exercise I can think of
Anyway, you can stay out of it, you've just made your plastics 200 quid dearer than they shouod be
That's right, off road plastics are cheap, how much are the wc plastics
Plastic is fine, but the forward rad covers look vunerable and unnecessary to me for off roading.
Anyway, you can stay out of it, you've just made your plastics 200 quid dearer than they shouod be
Getting back to pillion comfort.
I would imagine that most GS pillions are going to be female, and some may be larger than a size 12 ?
I believe that it's the grab rail and the positioning of the panniers which may make this bike uncomfortable for some pillions on long journeys.
Anyone over a size 12 and especially attired in heavy winter riding gear is going to find that the grab rail gives very little room to shuffle and in fact will start to dig in after a while,it's also a little to high to be in a natural grab position.
The vario panniers also appear to mount slightly to far forward therefore impeding the pillions ability to shift themselves on the balls of their feet.
So for anyone who regularly carries a pillion over any distance and is considering a new lc/wc/wb think long and hard about your luggage.
My missus is a size 10. I gave her a whole afternoon on the back of the demo bike and she was quick to say that it wasn't as comfortable as our GSA. I guess we'll either invest in an air-hawk or a trip to Tony Archer to keep her quiet ...
