Throttle By Wire - It's A Bit Shit

[developer]

After a lifetime of nicely weighted mechanical throttle cables, I'm struggling with the too easy/lightweight TBW feel on my 67 plate GSA.

Are there any mods (spring kits etc) to give a greater resistance/more feel, or do I just have to get used to it?

Ta

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

After a lifetime of nicely weighted mechanical throttle cables, I'm struggling with the too easy/lightweight TBW feel on my 67 plate GSA.

Are there any mods (spring kits etc) to give a greater resistance/more feel, or do I just have to get used to it?

Ta

Try it in Dynamic mode, feels sharper and better.

 

[developer]

Try it in Dynamic mode, feels sharper and better.

Thanks SB - it's a more resistant feel I'm after - stiffer to turn if you like.
I find myself kangarooing occasionally, as it's a bit trigger happy.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Thanks SB - it's a more resistant feel I'm after - stiffer to turn of you like.
I find myself kangarooing occasionally, as it's a bit trigger happy.

Yep that is because when in Road mode the response time is a little later, in Dynamic the response time is quicker so you get less of the kangeroo as you pull less on the throttle, hope it makes sense, it works for me, as I get a bit Roo style in road mode.

 

[developer]

Yep that is because when in Road mode the response time is a little later, in Dynamic the response time is quicker so you get less of the kangeroo as you pull less on the throttle, hope it makes sense, it works for me, as I get a bit Roo style in road mode.

Ok - I'll give it a go, thanks.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Ok - I'll give it a go, thanks.

just go easy at the beginning because it is quite a change from Road mode, and better not to use if slippy conditions........

 

[fred_jb]

Thanks SB - it's a more resistant feel I'm after - stiffer to turn if you like.
I find myself kangarooing occasionally, as it's a bit trigger happy.

I think that is more to do with the low speed fueling, which is a bit on/off, rather than the throttle spring resistance as such. I had a few "moments" on my 1200 GS due to this until I had it Hilltopped, which improved this a lot. My current 1250 is massively better in this respect with a much more progressive low speed throttle response, and to me is the biggest single improvement given by the Shiftcam engine.

 

[Neil W]

On my 64 plate the throttle electronic activator or whatever they call the twistgrip electronics needed to be recalibrated at one stage as it was out of synch

 

[fredaroony]

On my 64 plate the throttle electronic activator or whatever they call the twistgrip electronics needed to be recalibrated at one stage as it was out of synch

Throttle position sensor

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

Try it in Dynamic mode, feels sharper and better.

I'd have thought that rain mode would have been better ?

The first Triumph Explorer's had a very scary throttle action

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

I'd have thought that rain mode would have been better ?

The first Triumph Explorer's had a very scary throttle action

Rain mode maybe to stop the kangeroo Paul, but to get a true feeling of the throttle and quicker response, Dynamic feels good, it just feels about right in respect to the throttle, again only a personal feeling, the op might not like it, however if slippy back to Road, and obviously in the monsoon Rain mode

 

[Mallard]

I share Developer's view. I've got an 07 plate GS and a 67 plate Rallye. I am soooo use to the old bugger. Go round roundabouts, tight corners etc, - gas it, and it drives out (usually ) under control. The Rallye in dynamic mode is a rocket in comparison, and it's a real brain adjustment switching from one bike to the other. Kangeroos do'nt come into it, - it's more like a Springbok! or when the old KH500's hit the powerband. I also feel that if the twistgrip was a little heavier to twist I would be alot happier. Hopefully more pratice will help.

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Hopefully more pratice will help.

You just hit the magic button, it does take some time, do not get me wrong, I am in the same boat coming from old Harleys.

 

[fred_jb]

I share Developer's view. I've got an 07 plate GS and a 67 plate Rallye. I am soooo use to the old bugger. Go round roundabouts, tight corners etc, - gas it, and it drives out (usually ) under control. The Rallye in dynamic mode is a rocket in comparison, and it's a real brain adjustment switching from one bike to the other. Kangeroos do'nt come into it, - it's more like a Springbok! or when the old KH500's hit the powerband. I also feel that if the twistgrip was a little heavier to twist I would be alot happier. Hopefully more pratice will help.

I don't think a heavier throttle is the answer - that would just be trying to mask the problem rather than tackling the root cause which is the throttle response - plus the last thing you want if you are doing long days on the bike is a heavier throttle. The throttle resistance on my 2019 bike is already heavier than I would like and was giving me muscle pain in the throttle arm after a long day on the bike. This has been helped by fitting foam grip covers which increase the diameter of the grips and give your hand more leverage against the throttle spring. This might also help the OP's problem by making the throttle a little less sensitive to small hand movements.

 

[GB.]

Who said hilltop.........

 

[ChazzyB]

This might also help the OP's problem by making the throttle a little less sensitive to small hand movements.

Yeah, rain mode will do that.

 

[developer]

I note also it's (relative to my Honda) a quick action throttle - less than a quarter turn from fully closed to fully open, which is something else to adapt to.

 

[GB.]

Mine (1200gs) is rarely out of dyna mode, the 1250 is a lot softer at the bottom end, fine if you like that kinda thing, getting more like a four cylinder every year!

 

[firemanphil]

Try grip puppies,due to the circumference and feel,the throttle control is easier,i know what you mean about it coming in a bit jerky but you will be able to control it a little easier.

 

[fred_jb]

I note also it's (relative to my Honda) a quick action throttle - less than a quarter turn from fully closed to fully open, which is something else adapt to.

That's where putting foam grips on helps a bit, effectively changing the gearing between hand and throttle. The circumference of the grip is about 100 mms without grip and about 130 mms with a foam grip fitted. Although the degree of rotation required is unchanged, this translates to about 25 mms of hand movement for a quarter turn without foam grip, compared to 32.5 mms with, which is about a 30% reduction in sensitivity to movement.