thunderbird and blackberry email...help :(

[(RIP) Kaister]

the G/f...who works for Sun..has a blackberry.

recently , Sun has changed to thunderbird from outlook.

her IT support - who are next to useless - say you can't use the blackberry with thunderbird.

Is this right ?

How would she do it ?

 

[Fanum]

The Email client on the PC should be irrelevant...as long as it's a pop3 email account, it should possible to use recieve the emails on the Blackberry

Its only when you're trying to use a web based email addressed that you can have problems.....but Gmail and several others are well suported.

One option would be to use forwarding.....I've got several pop3 accounts all forwarded to my Gmail account, and my Blackberry is set up to grab the Gmail emails......it works well (My emails appear on the Blackberry before they do on the PC notifier )

 

[(RIP) Jamie]

The Email client on the PC should be irrelevant...as long as it's a pop3 email account, it should possible to use recieve the emails on the Blackberry

Its only when you're trying to use a web based email addressed that you can have problems.....but Gmail and several others are well suported.

One option would be to use forwarding.....I've got several pop3 accounts all forwarded to my Gmail account, and my Blackberry is set up to grab the Gmail emails......it works well (My emails appear on the Blackberry before they do on the PC notifier )

Spot on Bill, I'd have said the same.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

i don't think it is pop3 - its IMAP

the IT unhelpful desk said something about 'édgemail'....


i need to do some searching...

 

[Fanum]

IMAP's fine with Blackberry...it doesn't 'push', but it polls pretty instantly so there's no real difference.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

just had a bit of looking...stuck 'edgemail' into google and lo and behold what came up....some sort of Sun peculiar system

http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5575/6n7l9tque?a=view

still none the wiser tho....

any Sun geeks out there ?


found this now...its not looking good........ http://docs.sun.com/source/819-2631/index.html


# Does support exist for mobile devices such as RIM’s Blackberry and Palm’s Treo?

Not currently. However, email access is provided by Sun partners such as Consilient and NotifyTechnology. They will provide calendar access in the future.
# My Palm and Calendar Server calendars have gotten into a disordered state with many duplicate entries. How can I clear my calendars and start with a fresh calendar?

The following instructions will clear all duplicate data, leaving only one event and one task on your Palm desktop calendar, Palm device, Outlook calendar, or WinCE device and on the Calendar Server calendar.

Once you have your Palm/Outlook/WinCE data to a state where there is only one event and one task, Step a and Step b below can be skipped.

1. Create a new Calendar Server calendar with only one event and task.
2. Force a full synchronization of Palm data to the newly created calendar, choosing to overwrite the Palm data with the Calendar Server data.
3. Force a full synchronization of Palm data to the “original” calendar with the duplicate data and choose to overwrite the Calendar Server data with the Palm data.
4. Remove the one event from each calendar.

# Can I run the Synchronization tool over SSL?

Yes.
# Can Sun Java System Synchronization and Outlook Connector be used simultaneously? Are there any deployment or runtime possible conflicts?

The Connector for Microsoft Outlook installation program will detect the fact that Synchronization is installed and let you know. However, the Synchronization installation software does not detect the Connector for Microsoft Outlook. Since both synchronize to the same calendar store, there will be some undesirable side-effects. Such a configuration is not advisable.

Use the Synchronization tool to synchronize between Calendar Server and devices, Palm desktop and Outlook. Use the Outlook Connector to synchronize between Outlook and Calendar Server.
# Can Blackberry Devices work with Calendar Server? What solutions are available?

There is no Calendar Server solution at this time. However, there have been efforts to address Blackberry support on multiple fronts:

* Native RIM application support–The native RIM application shipped with Blackberry devices requires an Exchange server in the network. In addition, you would need Messaging Server. The native RIM application does not know how to communicate natively to Messaging Server, so an intermediary process must be installed to handle this environment.

A specific example of an intermediary process is the software “bridge” developed by Sun’s partner, Consilient. The ”bridge” uses a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) to communicate to the Blackberry over the RIM network. It allows the user to utilize the “native” email client on the Blackberry. This solution is fine for those who like the native Blackberry mail client and don’t mind having an Exchange server/BES running in their environment. Also, this solution uses the native RIM security (FIBs 140) and avoids the issue of having to retrain users on a new client.

* New RIM application–You can install a new application onto your Blackberry device that communicates directly to Calendar Server and Messaging Server. Notify, a partner, provides NotifyLink, which accesses Messaging Server over IMAP and uses a Java client on the device. The client communicates with HTTP(S) to the Calendar Server over the public Internet and supports Blackberry, Palm and Pocket PC devices. While the client actually polls for new mail on the Messaging Server, the user experience is as if it were “pushed” from the Messaging Server.

NotifyLink preserves the asynchronous mail notification on the handheld device. This solution is good for customers who don’t like the idea of Exchange in their environment and are willing to have a Java client running on their Blackberry rather than the native client. Customers with a heterogeneous handheld environment will also find the multiple OS device support useful. This solution also includes Triple DES or AES encryption.

* Browser support–Using Sun Java System Mobile Access, your can access mail and calendar through a browser application running on Blackberry. Mobile Access offers full read and write access to calendar and mail data. But in order for you to receive mail and calendar notifications (SMS notifications) when new mail or calendar appointments are created, you must set up the notifications separately through rules running on the Messaging Server or Calendar Server.

Mobile Access works with any device browser, including those browsers running on Blackberry devices. There is no data synchronization necessary since the device accesses data directly from Messaging Server or Calendar Server. Mobile Access also provides encryption using SSL.

Mobile Access is a good solution for customers who don’t need the performance of a local mail or calendar client running on their device, don’t need the additional security offered by native RIM applications, and where browser-based access is acceptable.

 

[Dickieboy]

You obviously need Thunderbird 2, it's the one that has all the gadgets in it.

 

[greencat]

Most companies use a BES which manages the BlackBerry to corporate email integration. Not sure that it maters what client is run on the PC but I guess it does matter what is being run on your core IT system.
Like my company, HPs email servers will likely sit behind firewalls so there is no way of setting up your BlackBerry to use simple pop3/IMAP & SNMP across the internet to reach your mail.
I can't believe HP use BlackBerrys and havent considered this when migrating to their new mail server applications...actually, given the support we get from them I can believe it.

I once had two HP guys come to give me a presentation. I let them struggle for a painful five minutes trying to get their projector set up before I felt I had to tell them they'd left the lense cap on
Pure genius!

Oooops, just noticed it was Sun not HP. My comments stand and I'll leave the HP anecdote in 'cause it was funny!