Tourance Next?

[Nick dj]

Any body else fitted one?

Just had a new Tourance Next fitted to the front of my twin cam to replace the EXP.
Only done 100 miles as yet but not impressed. The tyre looks taller and thinner. The bike now seems reluctant to bank into corners. It also seems very soft which makes slow speed hard work.

Normally a new front tyre makes the bike handle like new and give loads of confidence but it feels strange at present. It may bed in, but wish I had just fitted a standard Tourance.

 

[XBX]

Hi,

I had one of these fitted to the rear, within a hundred miles or so of aquiring the bike. It seems fine to me, with loads of grip, but nothing to compare it to. I run it at 2.5bar.

XBX

 

[Wilsdorf]

Slower steering IMO and the road attacks I had before are my preference for road work.

 

[Bendy toy]

Generally a very slow handling front tyre means its under inflated. I run 36/42 without problems.

BTW, I was very impressed with Road Attacks up to 60% used, but the rear handling fell off a cliff long before it got close to being worn out.

 

[Paul Rochdale]

Since it's recommended that a new tyre is run in for at least 100 miles, I think it's a bit too early to come to a decision.

How To Read Your Tyres Manufacture Date

The week and year of manufacture of a tyre is always marked on the sidewall.
A tyre marked 3308 was manufactured in week 33 of 2008.
Manufacturers also mark tyres to show which factory they were made in, so they can track where and when a faulty tyre was made.

Where do I find this information on my tyre?
Find a string of numbers & letters close to the tyres bead usually starting with DOT. At the end of the string you will find the 3 or 4 numbers relating to your tyres age.
If your tyres have just 3 numbers they will have been made pre- 2000 and even if they still have plenty of tread on them we suggest changing as they may be subject to rubber corrosion.

After reading this article, I went out to check my tyres. The rear one is marked 26th week of 2001, which is old even by my standards, so I intend to replace this old Metzeler Enduro 4 with a new Tourance, the standard one, to match the front.

 

[fizzer]

i just put a new tourance on yesterday ,it says made in germany on the side wall,the tourance i took off was made in china

 

[David Lee]

I fitted a pair to my hexhead 3000miles ago to see what they were like and initially they felt quite insecure particularly on uneven surfaces. Seriously thought about junking them at this time as I started to loose confidence in them.

But, got a bit of advice on here about running higher tyre pressures and found a bit on the Metzeler website stating pressures can be up to 2.9bar front and rear. Increased both of them to this and have never looked back since.

Increased pressures seems to have transformed them on my bike and I think that they really are excellent tyres now. I still run higher pressures (currently 2.6bar F & R) but have more confidence with these NEXT's than any other tyres I have tried over the years.

They are excellent in the wet too

 

[Nick dj]

Thanks

Thanks for all the advice, particularly David- your thoughts are just like mine.

I am going to a BMW meeting on the GS tomorrow will increase the pressure and get some miles on it to bed it in.

 

[tspivey]

Just replaced my EXP's with Trail Attacks last week as I had good feeling from them on my previous GS though its too early to tell if they give the same feel on my TC. It was wet and cold on the way back from fitting and I haven't been tempted out since.

 

[Pablo1]

I fitted a pair to my hexhead 3000miles ago to see what they were like and initially they felt quite insecure particularly on uneven surfaces. Seriously thought about junking them at this time as I started to loose confidence in them.

But, got a bit of advice on here about running higher tyre pressures and found a bit on the Metzeler website stating pressures can be up to 2.9bar front and rear. Increased both of them to this and have never looked back since.

Increased pressures seems to have transformed them on my bike and I think that they really are excellent tyres now. I still run higher pressures (currently 2.6bar F & R) but have more confidence with these NEXT's than any other tyres I have tried over the years.

They are excellent in the wet too

I'm sorry but I found this information to be complete bollox, i fitted a set of these on my 2012 gsa around 2.5k miles ago and they are fine on the standard recommended pressures .
i did take the trouble to check with my local dealer who fitted the tyres after reading a previous post (of yours I think) and he verified the most up to date recommendation as being same as manual, 2.2F 2.5 R unladen, 2.5F 2.9R fully loaded.

 

[Martyn H]

I'm sorry but I found this information to be complete bollox, i fitted a set of these on my 2012 gsa around 2.5k miles ago and they are fine on the standard recommended pressures .
i did take the trouble to check with my local dealer who fitted the tyres after reading a previous post (of yours I think) and he verified the most up to date recommendation as being same as manual, 2.2F 2.5 R unladen, 2.5F 2.9R fully loaded.

Without getting into the "correct pressures for what tyres", my personal practice is to always use the pressures recommended by the relevant tyre manufacturer for their tyres, not what the bike manufacturer suggests.

 

[brianmaslen]

I fitted a pair of the Next's and they are really unpredictable on white lines, drains, zebra crossings, over banding especially in the wet. I bumped into a couple of guys on Sunday at the Adventure Bike shop in Sudbury and they questioned me on the tyres as they had both experienced the same. I really liked the EXP's apart from the tyre wear rate and wish I had gone back to the Tourance. Hopefully I will gain some confidence and maybe try higher tyres pressures.

 

[Paul Rochdale]

Yesterday I checked the age of the rear Metzeler Enduro 4 on my R100GS-PD = 26th week of 2001(gulp). Even for me that's too old - 3mm of tread remaining - so I have ordered a new Tourance. The bike actually handled really well so I am interested to see what the difference will be like.

 

[Nick dj]

Pablo1- The tyre did come from a BMW dealer and had 2.6F in which I just thought was the mechanic being too lazy to check what the correct pressure is.

My thoughts are that they have been developed for the higher speeds and different steering head angles on the new LC

 

[Pablo1]

Pablo1- The tyre did come from a BMW dealer and had 2.6F in which I just thought was the mechanic being too lazy to check what the correct pressure is.

My thoughts are that they have been developed for the higher speeds and different steering head angles on the new LC

cant really comment on the new lc, but i did try running these at higher pressures after reading that advice but the handling was so shit it prompted me to research further, metzlers own web site concurrs with bmw on recommended pressures. As I was going off on a trip fully loaded when my tyres were fitted I asked the fitter to inflate them at fully laden pressures, 36psi front and 42psi rear he suggested, aye I said, on checking them before setting off they were over inflated big time. Hope you find what suits you .

 

[Bendy toy]

I'm sorry but I found this information to be complete bollox, i fitted a set of these on my 2012 gsa around 2.5k miles ago and they are fine on the standard recommended pressures .
i did take the trouble to check with my local dealer who fitted the tyres after reading a previous post (of yours I think) and he verified the most up to date recommendation as being same as manual, 2.2F 2.5 R unladen, 2.5F 2.9R fully loaded.

True/correct or not this is a pretty harsh (dare I say rude) way to make a point.

As for tyre pressures - I go with the tyre manufacturers figures because their products develop faster than the bike itself so are more likely to be correct.

 

[SteveM]

Got a pair of Next's fitted to my '12 GSA before last summers Euro trip with Mrs and found them to be better than the original tourances that I also really liked. No complaints, good wear rates and will buy again

 

[Pablo1]

True/correct or not this is a pretty harsh (dare I say rude) way to make a point.

As for tyre pressures - I go with the tyre manufacturers figures because their products develop faster than the bike itself so are more likely to be correct.

wtf has it got to do with you then , indeed why are you trolling these posts in the first place as you obviously dont have any experience of these tyres, or do you

looking at your post count (over 3k in just over a year) you either view yourself as the feckin oracle or have nought better to do than trawl though this site looking for an opportunity to butt in with some wisdom or other.

Harsh enough for you

 

[oldnfat]

wtf has it got to do with you then , indeed why are you trolling these posts in the first place as you obviously dont have any experience of these tyres, or do you

looking at your post count (over 3k in just over a year) you either view yourself as the feckin oracle or have nought better to do than trawl though this site looking for an opportunity to butt in with some wisdom or other.


Harsh enough for you

Pablo....just what is the allowable post count per year before you can comment?

 

[Bendy toy]

cant really comment on the new lc, but i did try running these at higher pressures after reading that advice but the handling was so shit it prompted me to research further, metzlers own web site concurrs with bmw on recommended pressures. As I was going off on a trip fully loaded when my tyres were fitted I asked the fitter to inflate them at fully laden pressures, 36psi front and 42psi rear he suggested, aye I said, on checking them before setting off they were over inflated big time. Hope you find what suits you .

At least you bothered to check the pressures. Some saving grace I suppose.