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I have just bought an 1150RT bottom end from e.bay - 20,000 + miles - that I intend to put together with some new old stock barrels, high comp BBpower pistons, lighter valve gear and mildly gas flowed heads with the aim of more torque in the bottom and midrange areas.

Any advice?

Any potential problems?
 
i think i saw that bottom end.

good on ya mate. :thumb2

id like to see what you achieve
 
Cheers, as soon as it is together I will be showing off!

BBpower reckon on 96hp at the wheel but improved torque throughout the rev range. It's not going to be cheap but then you get what you pay for.

It will have the benefit of being faster and more reliable than a 1200 - in theory.
 
nice to see someone trying, i looked at it but figured pounds per bhp just wasnt worth it , would be good to see what can be done though
 
It will have the benefit of being faster and more reliable than a 1200 - in theory.

what isnt? :beerjug:

incidentally, im about to start on a severe diet for my 1150. End aim being to reduce the weight significantly, without resorting to HPN to build me a bike.

combine the 2 trains and thought and we could have a serious back street weapon ;)
 
Yes I subscribe to the less is more school of thought. I can see why people have light bars and engine bars etc... But if I was going to do some overlanding I would buy an Africa Twin :augie

My aim is to make the road based sports/tourer that BMW should have made.

I'll post images throughout the build.

Good point GS1100 - but I am building a new motor from a collection of parts so any base point from the existing motor will not be particularly useful.
 
GS01 - the standard valve gear is safe to 9K rpm, (valve bounce starts at 9,200 on my R1100GS), unless you're altering the Motronic, your rev-limiter will have kicked in before this, might be worth considering before you spend out.
 
Hello motogs1100

Have you had a look at the BBpower web site? This shows lightweight buckets and a translation which is a bit rough but comes across as the lighter buckets mean less stress on the engine. Agreed it is going to be expensive but hey its only money.

Do you think that it would be a total waste to buy the lighter components?
 
Your 1150 engine, as standard, makes peak power at about 6.5K rpm, looking at BBPowers before and after dyno curves, peak power appears to be about 1K rpm higher than standard.
The R1100S makes peak power at about 7.5K rpm as standard, plus it has a more performance orientated camshaft, yet it uses exactly the same buckets, valve springs, etc.
The 1100S doesn't have a reputation for valve train problems.
 
Hello motogs1100

If you were going to build a torque orientated motor which route would you go down. At present I haven't committed to anything other than the bottom end and new old stock barrels. So I can go any route (within reason).

Also have y piece and Techlusion chip.
 
Torque orientated is the way to go, my R1100GS has been well modified, cams, pistons, one-off ignition system, crankcase ventilation, one-off exhaust system, modified camchain guides, vernier cam wheels, etc, etc.
The last trackday I attended, the acceleration was identical to the R1200GS, but I've become fed-up of having to use the revs all the time.
The acceleration is excellent, but for the real world, lower rpm drive is more important.
Early last year I modified a R1150GS, I fitted 36mm inlet valves from the R1200GS, tidied up the inlet valve seat area, fitted a Power Commander, modified standard silencer and Y-piece and 'S' camshafts.
I left the compression ratio as standard and didn't optimise the squish. The standard 34mm valve seats don't need changing for the larger inlet valves.
Comparing this bike to mine, there was very little difference, mine pulled a bit stronger at higher rpm, but the midrange of the 1150 was very good.
This is what I would start with, later you could fit the RT or RS pistons for more compression and bigger 31mm exhaust valves, don't forget that fitting the larger inlet valves will introduce more mixture, hence raising the actual rather than calculated compression ratio anyway.
The standard inlet ports are too big, the larger inlet valves reduce this problem, the improved flow, especially at lower gas speed, will give you better mid-range performance.
Everything you need to improve the performance is available from other models, most parts can be sourced from Motorworks, plus you can do the improvements in stages.
Food for thought!
 
Cheers, that sounds a whole lot cheaper then BBpower and I assume it will provide better results for what I am looking for, which is torque.

I'll be in touch via PM in the next couple of weeks if thats okay.
 
Motor has arrived, already had the barrels.

Advice sought from motogs.

First pic's of the project.
 

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The cams and cam carriers have arrived.

Thanks motogs.
 

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Wish my garage floor was like that :aidan

As an aside, I have a complete R1100S engine, injectors and ECU. Thinking about dropping it into my R850GS but reckon the clutch assy needs to be different to mate with the original gearbox. Any ideas from you knowledgable folk out there?

Nick
 
Wish my garage floor was like that :aidan

As an aside, I have a complete R1100S engine, injectors and ECU. Thinking about dropping it into my R850GS but reckon the clutch assy needs to be different to mate with the original gearbox. Any ideas from you knowledgable folk out there?

Nick


Its the workbench (home made) with a piece of tempered glass on it, its good for wiping clean but you have to be careful with a hammer :augie.

Sorry can't help with the R1100/850 compatibility.
 


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