So, I've been thinking about biting the bullet and investing in a twat suit, and wondered what the general consensus is amongst fellow tossers? I tried one of the new HG ones on last weekend and looked like a Star Wars character! The cost was quite reasonable compared to the ones I saw at Bahnstormer yesterday (£1000). The question is, should I or shouldn't I?
Twat suit, or not?
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AberdeenAngus
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Don't do it. You still have your whole life ahead of you. Why throw it all away like that.
Other than looking like the forsaid Twat, they're not much use in Britain, the one I tried (a few years ago admitedly) was only waterproof with the Thermal liner in, so on a warm summers day, you either roasted or got soaked, I was advised by the nice sales lady to buy a lightweight waterproof over jacket to stay dry, this for a coat that was going to cost me nearly £400?.
I bought a much more usable Heine Gerricke Cruise GTX which has turned out to be a great jacket.
I bought a much more usable Heine Gerricke Cruise GTX which has turned out to be a great jacket.
Yes, but
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I can't comment on the latest Rallye 3 version, but I've had 2 Rallye 2's.
Have to say I agree with the point said above, they are not ideal for the UK, I commute on my bike daily so I get through all weathers. Unfortunately, the Rallye 2's once wet stay wet for quite a while.
Dont get me wrong, I have one and they look OK, Twat-suit reputation aside, but if you want to stay dry and not have the hassle of having to dry it out after a rain ride, look elsewhere. Its a bit of a pain in the arse IMHO.
Have to say I agree with the point said above, they are not ideal for the UK, I commute on my bike daily so I get through all weathers. Unfortunately, the Rallye 2's once wet stay wet for quite a while.
Dont get me wrong, I have one and they look OK, Twat-suit reputation aside, but if you want to stay dry and not have the hassle of having to dry it out after a rain ride, look elsewhere. Its a bit of a pain in the arse IMHO.
I just bought a Revit Cayenne Pro (it's the new twat suit, doncha know)) and am very impressed. Half the price of the a twatter, but very good quality materials and attention to detail.
I'd check it out before shelling out for a Twat suit.
I'd check it out before shelling out for a Twat suit.
+1 for the revit cayenne;
half the price andjust as good
half the price andjust as good
Mutley
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You need to understand this:
The tw@ suit is a shell designed for carrying body armour and protecting the inner waterproof layer. It has vents for keeping you cool but nothing else to keep you warm. Beneath it you are supposed to wear:
If you have all that it's a great suit but doesn't have anything to adjust the arms and legs so it's either too tight in the cold or too flappy in the heat. Oh, and the outer shell is easily dealt with by using a waterproofing agent which stops it's absorbent qualities.
I bought a Revitt Cayenne as well
The tw@ suit is a shell designed for carrying body armour and protecting the inner waterproof layer. It has vents for keeping you cool but nothing else to keep you warm. Beneath it you are supposed to wear:
- The goretex lining - to keep you dry
- A windproof layer - to stop the cold spots
- A thermal layer - to keep you warm
- A base layer to keep away the sweat
If you have all that it's a great suit but doesn't have anything to adjust the arms and legs so it's either too tight in the cold or too flappy in the heat. Oh, and the outer shell is easily dealt with by using a waterproofing agent which stops it's absorbent qualities.
I bought a Revitt Cayenne as well
brassmonkey001
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When shopping for motorcycling apparel I look into what properties it has i.e. will it keep me dry in the rain, warm in the winter, cool in the summer, will it keep my skin on as I slide down the road and keep my bones largely in their correct shape and place in the event of an impact?
The manufacturers logo and what others are wearing doesn't even come into play.
There's nowt available that scores 100% in all the criteria, you just have to decide where you are willing to compromise.
The manufacturers logo and what others are wearing doesn't even come into play.
There's nowt available that scores 100% in all the criteria, you just have to decide where you are willing to compromise.
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Had my Twat suit 5 years now and it's the most versatile kit I've owned.
It's my everyday kit. Soooooo cool in the heat with it's vents. Warm to minus silly degrees centigrade and 100% waterproof.
Like nattydread man says, nothing is 100% perfect but mine now is cos I wear thin, decent, thermal layers in winter and if it's very cold/wet, over the top goes an army surplus Gortex jacket that fits in the Twat suits bum bag.
Love mine and I'm used to looking a twat whatever I wear........
Andres
It's my everyday kit. Soooooo cool in the heat with it's vents. Warm to minus silly degrees centigrade and 100% waterproof.
Like nattydread man says, nothing is 100% perfect but mine now is cos I wear thin, decent, thermal layers in winter and if it's very cold/wet, over the top goes an army surplus Gortex jacket that fits in the Twat suits bum bag.
Love mine and I'm used to looking a twat whatever I wear........
Andres
And if you sell your BMW you will look like a Tw@t on a different make.
For the quality of the textiles at that price steer well clear..IMHO.
The choice of suits is bigger out there,and have a look at hein gerick they sell new alpinestars suit not sure how these compare to HG brand but look better than BMW..
My mistake was buying a BMW enduro helmet...
For the quality of the textiles at that price steer well clear..IMHO.
The choice of suits is bigger out there,and have a look at hein gerick they sell new alpinestars suit not sure how these compare to HG brand but look better than BMW..
My mistake was buying a BMW enduro helmet...
JJ's GS
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I bought a Rallye 3 suit last year as I was always so hot in my leathers and I absolutely love it. 
Looked around at all sorts and found the Rallye fitted me the best which for me is the most important thing.
It has great ventillation in the summer (especially vents in chest area) and in the winter I put in the liner and used a thin fleece as well and I found that was fine.
Armour is better than my leathers and there are pockets galore.
From my point of view it's the best bit of kit I've bought and I love the look of it as well.
It does everything I want and gives me all day comfort.
Go to HG etc and try some stuff on and then go to BMW. I think you'll find the quality and fit much better and that will make your decision.
Well, that's how it worked for me.
Good luck and keep us posted.
JJ
Looked around at all sorts and found the Rallye fitted me the best which for me is the most important thing.
It has great ventillation in the summer (especially vents in chest area) and in the winter I put in the liner and used a thin fleece as well and I found that was fine.
Armour is better than my leathers and there are pockets galore.
From my point of view it's the best bit of kit I've bought and I love the look of it as well.
It does everything I want and gives me all day comfort.
Go to HG etc and try some stuff on and then go to BMW. I think you'll find the quality and fit much better and that will make your decision.
Well, that's how it worked for me.
Good luck and keep us posted.
JJ
I'm an instructor, out there day in, day out, come rain or shine.
I've had my HG Master V suit for over 2 years now and can't recommend it highly enough.
Warm with the liner in, cool with it out and waterproof either way.
Good pockets, lightweight and hard wearing.
And you get the HG two year warranty on top of the standard Goretex one.
Had my trousers exchanged late last year after they sprung a wee leak in the crotch area and was given a pair of the new Master V trousers as a replacement.
The updates on the new troo's are air vents with drylock zips on thighs and a second full length zip at the waist so you can wear the bib 'n' brace and zip the jacket to the trousers.
Can't vouch for or against the twat suit but when I eventually have to replace my kit I know my money will be safe spent on another Master V.
I've had my HG Master V suit for over 2 years now and can't recommend it highly enough.
Warm with the liner in, cool with it out and waterproof either way.
Good pockets, lightweight and hard wearing.
And you get the HG two year warranty on top of the standard Goretex one.
Had my trousers exchanged late last year after they sprung a wee leak in the crotch area and was given a pair of the new Master V trousers as a replacement.
The updates on the new troo's are air vents with drylock zips on thighs and a second full length zip at the waist so you can wear the bib 'n' brace and zip the jacket to the trousers.
Can't vouch for or against the twat suit but when I eventually have to replace my kit I know my money will be safe spent on another Master V.
Bought a relatively cheap HG Ewan Wannabe suit after 25 years of wearing leathers (which do look as silly as twat suits when your on a GS)
My leathers were perforated with stretch panels and very cool, I always used a base layer (one of the best bits of kit I ever bought) and carried a EDZ windproof layer (which folds down to fag packet size - another "must have") and the obligatory waterproofs for when it pissed down.
I switched because I hated being in the waterprooofs, especially on a sportsbike where your contorted and they pull tight everywhere (or are far too baggy in other places if you upsize) Also by the time I had decided the rain really was not gonna stop I was normally already wet so half the time having waterproofs did not save me, and sods law if you put them on "in case" you would sweat for hours and it would never rain.
For the above reasons I chose a suit with built in windproof / waterproof membrane as otherwise I would never have them when needed, it also has a thermal liner which is handy over winter months, but on tour would rather carry an extra jumper as this can double up for wearing in evenings.
I was expecting to roast in hot weather, but so far I have been impressed with the "breathability" of the (cheapo) Shelltex, although not as cool as the leathers they are pretty good and I do not freeze as soon as the sun goes in like I did before.
Not done the "rain test" yet and discovered how waterlogged they get, but will probably carry one of those waterproof tops the racers wear as they are very small and light and will keep worst of water out of the suit.
My leathers were perforated with stretch panels and very cool, I always used a base layer (one of the best bits of kit I ever bought) and carried a EDZ windproof layer (which folds down to fag packet size - another "must have") and the obligatory waterproofs for when it pissed down.
I switched because I hated being in the waterprooofs, especially on a sportsbike where your contorted and they pull tight everywhere (or are far too baggy in other places if you upsize) Also by the time I had decided the rain really was not gonna stop I was normally already wet so half the time having waterproofs did not save me, and sods law if you put them on "in case" you would sweat for hours and it would never rain.
For the above reasons I chose a suit with built in windproof / waterproof membrane as otherwise I would never have them when needed, it also has a thermal liner which is handy over winter months, but on tour would rather carry an extra jumper as this can double up for wearing in evenings.
I was expecting to roast in hot weather, but so far I have been impressed with the "breathability" of the (cheapo) Shelltex, although not as cool as the leathers they are pretty good and I do not freeze as soon as the sun goes in like I did before.
Not done the "rain test" yet and discovered how waterlogged they get, but will probably carry one of those waterproof tops the racers wear as they are very small and light and will keep worst of water out of the suit.
Dave The Driver
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I bought a Rallye 3 suit last year as I was always so hot in my leathers and I absolutely love it.
Looked around at all sorts and found the Rallye fitted me the best which for me is the most important thing.
It has great ventillation in the summer (especially vents in chest area) and in the winter I put in the liner and used a thin fleece as well and I found that was fine.
Armour is better than my leathers and there are pockets galore.
From my point of view it's the best bit of kit I've bought and I love the look of it as well.
It does everything I want and gives me all day comfort.
Go to HG etc and try some stuff on and then go to BMW. I think you'll find the quality and fit much better and that will make your decision.
Well, that's how it worked for me.
Good luck and keep us posted.
JJ
As the two above BUT....
as said before when its wet it is wet, some would say if you don't have the lining in you'll get wet. I have ridden in pouring rain on the motorway down to 40mph for 30 minutes and when we stopped I went to put on the linings and found that I was not wet. My arms were cold but not wet, as for my upper body I think the screen did its job. I like mine that much that I got one for my son. One thing I should add if you fill the cold you will need to add layers, and this may not be for you, as for me most of the year I'm in a tee shirt
I do wash and prof my outter
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Best thing to do with the waterproof liner in all these suits is to throw it away and buy a half-decent raint suit.
I recall a long, late night motorway journey in a suit with a goretex liner which had becom sodden during the day. Even though the rain had stopped the evaporation made me dangerously cold - this was in May too, not the middle of the winter.
I recall a long, late night motorway journey in a suit with a goretex liner which had becom sodden during the day. Even though the rain had stopped the evaporation made me dangerously cold - this was in May too, not the middle of the winter.
derby dave
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ive got the mk2 bm suit which i only wear in the summer mainly due to the excellant ventilation aspect as for being waterproof i always seem to get wet feet the suit has always held up For the winter i use the master v great suit very warm but jacket leaked on the first outing got it replaced it still leaks on the shoulders i wont be buying v again i will get it replaced near to the end of the warranty
Thanks for the feedback folks. As I don't ride every day, I can't justify the £1k BMW suit, so will pop along to HG at the weekend and have a proper look at the range.
Will post my findings next week...............
Will post my findings next week...............
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