Tyre fitting

[t'other dave]

What Ianboyd says, a seller on ebay doesn't even need to stock a tyre their order is linked to a wholesaler who sends out the tyre and just bills the seller. The seller can make a fiver a tyre for doing jackshit otherthan listing on ebay. £20 per loose wheel is reasonable, I charge £15.95 to fit/bal/new valve if you bring your own tyres bought from somewhere else.

Sometimes I quote say £200 for a set of tyres fitted to the bike (which I have in stock to be fitted there and then) and people say oh there £150 on the net Ill get em off there, they come back 4 days later I charge them £56.90 to the bike and find they also paid £10 p&p, love them ones.

I have no problem with people doing it themselves we all do diy in some form, but when you can't do it or dont have the tools you must pay the going rate, eg plastering, matirials to do an average room £30 so why do they charge £400 to just throw the mix on the wall and how much profit are they making? Oh and dont forget VAT @20%.
Rant over, Dave

 

[Dawg]

so strip out the VAT, then the equipment costs, the consumable costs, rent, rates, electricity, advertising, wages, etc, then compare what you expect to get for doing the same amount of work, you cant expect others to work for nothing

£40 To fit two tyres to loose rims IS alot, I would'nt pay it, I'd just go elsewhere.

Yes people are in buisness, but it depends how many they do. That would take what? 15 to 20 mins tops.
If you did that all day with just overheads you'd be onto a winner in my book.

 

[ianboydsnr]

£40 To fit two tyres to loose rims IS alot, I would'nt pay it, I'd just go elsewhere.

Yes people are in buisness, but it depends how many they do. That would take what? 15 to 20 mins tops.
If you did that all day with just overheads you'd be onto a winner in my book.

of course £20 to a loose rim is a lot, but you seem to have forgot about VAT reducing that to £16.70 then you have the overheads, the non profit times quoting pricing, answering phones and talking to customers, and lets face it, even the busiest tyre fitting place is unlikely to be able to justify having someone fit tyres all day, let alone in the colder part of the year when many bikes never leave the garage, unfortunatly overheads are still payable then.


clearly your not up to running your own business

 

[Dawg]

of course £20 to a loose rim is a lot, but you seem to have forgot about VAT reducing that to £16.70 then you have the overheads, the non profit times quoting pricing, answering phones and talking to customers, and lets face it, even the busiest tyre fitting place is unlikely to be able to justify having someone fit tyres all day, let alone in the colder part of the year when many bikes never leave the garage, unfortunatly overheads are still payable then.


clearly your not up to running your own business

Clearly.....Trouble is that your average joe public, ie me, just wants value for money. I couldnt care less about the owner answering phones or what he gets up to in the winter and why should I. I want value for money, my money that I happen to work hard for.

£20 to fit a tyre is too bloody much. No wonder so many busines's go under. Value is the key word. I can get it done for £10 at my tyre dealer. I dont like being ripped off.

Simples...

 

[Beemerman59]

Its like most products and services...you have a choice whether to buy or pay for them or not. I think £20 is a lot...I understand the business side of it but for most places I know that fit tyres, its not their core activity. Its usually, servicing, repairs, MOT's, sales etc. They don't need the tyre fitting service to survive. They have a machine sitting in the corner for when its needed. People like to get the cheapest tyre deals but then have the problem of getting them fitted so end up paying the extra to do so. I choose to fit them myself not because I can't afford it but because I like to do what I can myself to my bike. But I still think £20 a rim is expensive. Clearly I'm in the minority because if everyone thought so I'm sure supply and demand economics would prevail.

 

[ianboydsnr]

Its like most products and services...you have a choice whether to buy or pay for them or not. I think £20 is a lot...I understand the business side of it but for most places I know that fit tyres, its not their core activity. Its usually, servicing, repairs, MOT's, sales etc. They don't need the tyre fitting service to survive. They have a machine sitting in the corner for when its needed. People like to get the cheapest tyre deals but then have the problem of getting them fitted so end up paying the extra to do so. I choose to fit them myself not because I can't afford it but because I like to do what I can myself to my bike. But I still think £20 a rim is expensive. Clearly I'm in the minority because if everyone thought so I'm sure supply and demand economics would prevail.

yep me to, I have fitted mine myself for the last 5 years, just because I like to be able to, and your right fitting tyres is rarely supporting the business costs, thats why some can charge £10 and others £20,

It astounds me that people think changing a tyre is expensive,(no they are being ripped off) at £20, then they inform their insurance broker of a change and are charged between £25 and £50 for the privilege of them pressing a few keys!
and cheapest is not always the best value

 

[Beemerman59]

yep me to, I have fitted mine myself for the last 5 years, just because I like to be able to, and your right fitting tyres is rarely supporting the business costs, thats why some can charge £10 and others £20,

It astounds me that people think changing a tyre is expensive,(no they are being ripped off) at £20, then they inform their insurance broker of a change and are charged between £25 and £50 for the privilege of them pressing a few keys!
and cheapest is not always the best value

I agree. And I am using the terminology of "expensive" rather than "ripped off". I think where there is an element of choice for the consumer and prices are known upfront, it can't be a rip off because the customer makes a consious decision what to do based on their circumstances, need and abilities. If I was 150 miles from home and needed a new tyre I would gladly pay the £20 to fit one and feel very thankfull for it. Same with dealer servicing - £300 for a 1200 6K service is expensive but I don't consider it a rip off because businesses need to function and make a profit. But I do that myself as well for the same reason and I have that choice. Those that don't have the choice need to factor in these costs before they buy the bike so shouldn't really complain when having to pay it.

 

[mikeyboy]

i run my own garage,and i think £20 per rim is a little expensive.but if you consider to mount and balance tyres properly i have a £4.5 k machine plus a £2.5 K balancer plus all the other adapters ,also we have to pay to have the tyres disposed of.ill have to fit a hell of of a lot of tyres to even recoup my capital outlay let alone actually making any profit out of it,so when all of the independants stop fitting tyres cos you lot are buying them off the internet from someone based in a semi det house somewhere and fitting them at home,dont be surprised that you get charged more for "emergency" repairs/replacement

 

[Rusty Bolts]

For my 2p worth there are some fitting places round eer that won't even touch your wheel if they didn't supply the tyres. Those that will charge £15. Now I can get tourances for about £175 of ebay then I have to be in when they arrive or travel to the nearest citylink depot to collect (40 miles round trip to Exeter for me) then I have to trundle over to the one fitter that I know will fit them in Paignton which means going down the Torquay road in the car which is only 8 miles but takes about 40 mins because the place is rammed with caravans and groccles driving with their thumbs up their ar**s's as well as becomeing myopic because they have taken to wearing a 'holiday' hat in the car.
Then they fit them for £15 which I think is not bad especially as the last one I had changed was full of puncture seal & tyre foamx2. Although when I warned them about the tyre pressure monitors they said they would not be responsible if they get damaged-
So all in all the £175 tourances plus £6 for fuel to pick them up plus the £30 to have them fitted plus all the hassle equals £211. They could supply and fit on a ride-in basis a pair of EXPs, for wait for it £215
So the sweet taste of an apparent bargin is quickly replaced with the bitter taste of hindsight.
However, not everyone is living down 'eer, although at the moment it seems like they are, so their situation will almost certainly be different.

 

[Alan R]

I've fitted tyres before to various bikes so I'm not worried about how difficult it is/isn't. What I have no experience of is doing so to a wheel fitted with tyre pressure sensors. I don't know what the fitting within the wheel looks like so I'm not sure what to expect. Any tips from anyone as to the best method to proceed so as not to damage whatever lurks within?
AlanR

 

[Beemerman59]

I've fitted tyres before to various bikes so I'm not worried about how difficult it is/isn't. What I have no experience of is doing so to a wheel fitted with tyre pressure sensors. I don't know what the fitting within the wheel looks like so I'm not sure what to expect. Any tips from anyone as to the best method to proceed so as not to damage whatever lurks within?
AlanR

The sensors are about 3 inch long and sit inside the wheel well. They are offset and there may be a sticker on the rim telling you which side of the valve the main body of the sensors are. If not, just keep clear either side of the valve 3-4" on both sides until you know. Mine sit behind the valve when the wheel is at the correct rotation. If you do the rear first you have plenty of room to avoid them and then you will see how it all is.

 

[Alan R]

Thanks, Beemerman59 for the prompt and useful reply
AlanR

 

[B4ndit]

I would be happy to pay £20 per tyre if it included balancing and valves. For me its still cheaper than buying direct from the dealer. It will save £30 against the dealer prices for a pair of Tourances.

And I still won't get my hands mucky and curse at something.

If I owned a tyre shop I wouldn't fit someone elses tyres out of principle.

 

[tosh23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0nrZadIQxA

 

[adventuredon]

and if you owned said shop , would you service only bikes bought from you. Or only bmw