Tyres and Service

[Touringman]

I am sure that his still gets asked all the time but I have been away from the forum for some time and.......

1 I wondered in Tourances are still the 1150's tyre of choice amongst efficianados?
2 How much do most of you pay for a full 6k service?

As you can guess my bike is due for both tyres and a service- due to various things I havent ridden since August last year - a lay up of almost 6 months!

Cheers

 

[Squidbrain]

T Man

1) Yes, although I've "only" got an 1100.

2) £70+VAT. Unfortunately for you this is at James Sherlock's emporium in Devon, a bit out of your way.

Mick

 

[Adrian B]

Yes Tourances are my preferred choice, £185 pair fitted at Jeffries in Bradford

Service, If I recall was about £140 ish at Rainbow

 

[MikeO]

Tourances are still the boots of choice, and seem to be in free supply after the drought last summer. 6k service in Norwich £110 inc VAT.


MikeO

 

[Simon Eassom]

Summarising two years of commentary on both these topics on this BB . . .

1) Tourances are still the boots of choice for the 1100 and 1150 by far. Annakees have been adopted by a few members but no users of them claim them to be better - as good, but not better. Don't expect to get Tourances bought fitted and balanced for less than about £150 plus VAT and be prepared for up to £190 plus VAT.

2) A 6k service done at a BMW dealership, on average, with no extras, should cost £110-£120 plus VAT. You will find less - as low as £60 plus VAT at some independents - and some notorious BMW dealerships charge much more (did somebody mention Sawbridgeworth?) - and a few BMW specialists will charge about £90 plus VAT. To help you, ask the following questions: (a) is the fee a fixed amount for the job regardless of time spent or do you charge by the hour for the specific job? (b) what is your hourly rate? The garages where you'll pay less and more are those that charge an hourly rate. A standard 2-hour service could take 4 if there are complications. Alternatively, you're local friendly independent could rattle it off in under 2 hours and only charge £30 per hour. You'll pay the high rates at the BMW garage that charges £50 per hour and tells you your bike took 4 hours to service because of seized this and that and engine bars that needed removing etc. Ask if you can watch the bike being serviced and assist with parts removal to save time. The rip-off merchants will say "No".

 

[AndyT]

How much should I expect to pay for a 12k service at a BMW dealer. I've booked it in for the 6th March when I'm back home and fear as nothing comes cheap in Aberdeen. He was going to change all the brake fluids until I said no thanks.........

From the previous posts the prices seem to vary quite a bit.

Have Fun
AndyT

 

[MikeO]

AndyT,

brace yourself, you're about to get financially butt-f***ed. Clarkes charged my mate over £200 for a 6k service, no different in any way from the one I paid £110 for a couple of weeks later at my dealer in Norwich. Clarkes' servicing is bloody expensive, although my mate was happy with the standard of their work....


MikeO


ps Change of Brake Fluid is a feature of the Annual Service, I believe.

 

[bickie]

my local dealer which is in grimsby quoted £170 for a 6k service, and for a pair of anakees £263. also £38 to supply and fit ultra seal

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

my local dealer which is in grimsby quoted £170 for a 6k service, and for a pair of anakees £263. also £38 to supply and fit ultra seal

Looks like Harvey's (Astles) prices are well dear.
James Sherlock sells a pair of Tourances delivered by courier for £155 and fitting would be about £25 on top.
Can you afford to go there..............................?????

 

[AndyT]

AndyT,

brace yourself, you're about to get financially butt-f***ed. Clarkes charged my mate over £200 for a 6k service, no different in any way from the one I paid £110 for a couple of weeks later at my dealer in Norwich. Clarkes' servicing is bloody expensive, although my mate was happy with the standard of their work....


MikeO


ps Change of Brake Fluid is a feature of the Annual Service, I believe.

Thanks Mike thats just what I wantd to hear...Has anyone else changed their brake fluid and if so why????

Think I'll have to put some overtime in..

Have Fun
AndyT

 

[goose]

The cost of a brake fluid change from the difference in price between an annual and 6K service at Blue Bell is £25.

Why change fluid?

1) Boiling Point

Brake fluid relies on an incompressible fluid to transmit force through the braking system. If the fluid contains any gas, either from incorrect bleeding or from the fluid boiling the brake system will fail to transmit the force as effectively.

The brake fluid used is a DOT 4, this absorbs water, and as a consequence of this is the boiling point of the fluid is reduced. This will increase the likelihood of the fluid boiling under prolonged heavy usage resulting in loss of brake function.

2) Corrosion Protection

Brake fluid contains a corrosion inhibitor, changing the fluid ensures that this protection is maintained. The additional moisture from old fluid will also have an effect. This will increase the life of the brake system, useful with an expensive ABS system.

3) Lubrication

The fluid lubricates the system, as it ages and absorbs water this will ability is reduced by contaminates in the system. Acid or abrasive particles from corrosion will increase wear on the pistons, bores and seals in the system.


Most cars have a recommended interval of 2 years, but I have seen yearly changes recommended for keeping the system in good condition over a long period.

 

[AndyT]

The cost of a brake fluid change from the difference in price between an annual and 6K service at Blue Bell is £25.

Why change fluid?

1) Boiling Point

Brake fluid relies on an incompressible fluid to transmit force through the braking system. If the fluid contains any gas, either from incorrect bleeding or from the fluid boiling the brake system will fail to transmit the force as effectively.

The brake fluid used is a DOT 4, this absorbs water, and as a consequence of this is the boiling point of the fluid is reduced. This will increase the likelihood of the fluid boiling under prolonged heavy usage resulting in loss of brake function.

2) Corrosion Protection

Brake fluid contains a corrosion inhibitor, changing the fluid ensures that this protection is maintained. The additional moisture from old fluid will also have an effect. This will increase the life of the brake system, useful with an expensive ABS system.

3) Lubrication

The fluid lubricates the system, as it ages and absorbs water this will ability is reduced by contaminates in the system. Acid or abrasive particles from corrosion will increase wear on the pistons, bores and seals in the system.


Most cars have a recommended interval of 2 years, but I have seen yearly changes recommended for keeping the system in good condition over a long period.

You don't happen to market brake fluid do you......

Have Fun
AndyT

 

[goose]

No, but you did ask why you should change it

Its like asking why you change the oil and filter, you don't have to, but replacing oil and brake fluid is cheaper that rebuilding or replacing an ABS system.

Incidently, the recommended interval for clutch fluid is 2 years, again this is DOT4. As the clutch fluid is unlikely to boil, this must be for the corrosion protection and lubrication. I would guess the the 1 year for the brake fluid is the use of the brakes under extreme and prolonged braking.

 

[Squidbrain]

I would guess the the 1 year for the brake fluid is the use of the brakes under extreme and prolonged braking. [/B]

What, by users of this forum? Surely not.

 

[goose]

My thoughts entirely, I am sure most of us a totally sensible and when not riding are committed Rhonda owners, complete with pipe and flat cap.




Rhonda, Car of supposedly British origin, usually found at the head of a slow moving stream of traffic, especially prevalent on Sunday afternoons in the summer.

 

[Touringman]

Thanks for all the responses - I'll sort out through Jefferries tourances and the service.

Cheers

 

[rugbug]

Just posted reply on Tourances and mileage thread for my experiences on the tyres.

Check out my comments on Universal Tyres. Useful!!