I cannot find a fix for this problem anywhere inside BaseCamp or on any of the regular forums. I have reported it to Garmin.
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I cannot find a fix for this problem anywhere inside BaseCamp or on any of the regular forums. I have reported it to Garmin.
dxtans
Registered user
Yup, when I started to migrate to basecamp, I found this drive tool a great way to check your route(s), always use it when building routes now.
Strangely, never has the problem of way/via points on the wrong side of the road, must be lucky in plotting I guess!
dxtans
iand46
Registered user
Richard, Found this article. You might have to revert to Classic maps first if you are using the new version, you can change that by using the help button bottom left.
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/144364?hl=en
Ta muchly, I will give it a go.
(G) Problem with Trip Planner
I have created two two trips, both over several days. Somewhat unusually, BaseCamp does not seem to create a file for 'Trip Planned' journeys, albeit the individual routes do appear within it on each day.
Problem 1.
I wanted to share each of the trips. BaseCamp refused to write them to a file.
Problem 2.
I tried every method I could find to send the routes to my Nav V, either singly or from within Trip Planner and / or by creating a purpose built file, copying the routes in and sending them. Each time BaseCamp crashed.
EDIT:
I have just tried it again, creating a fresh trip and it worked.
I can only guess that the routes I had created before had somehow become contaminated with data I had brought across from with Mapsource?
I have created two two trips, both over several days. Somewhat unusually, BaseCamp does not seem to create a file for 'Trip Planned' journeys, albeit the individual routes do appear within it on each day.
Problem 1.
I wanted to share each of the trips. BaseCamp refused to write them to a file.
Problem 2.
I tried every method I could find to send the routes to my Nav V, either singly or from within Trip Planner and / or by creating a purpose built file, copying the routes in and sending them. Each time BaseCamp crashed.
EDIT:
I have just tried it again, creating a fresh trip and it worked.
I can only guess that the routes I had created before had somehow become contaminated with data I had brought across from with Mapsource?
(G) Problem with Trip Planner
No it didn't. It crashed again, when I tried to add an extra day in.
Something very odd is happening.
It is either becoming corrupted when I change the name of the file or route, or maybe when I add extra days in? I have no choice but to press on to see if I can get Trip Planner to send routes multiple routes.
I HAVE GIVEN UP WITH IT..... at least for now.
It's a real pity as it looks like a great way to create routes and trips in a date diary form. Why it is crashing I just cannot work out.
No it didn't. It crashed again, when I tried to add an extra day in.
Something very odd is happening.
It is either becoming corrupted when I change the name of the file or route, or maybe when I add extra days in? I have no choice but to press on to see if I can get Trip Planner to send routes multiple routes.
I HAVE GIVEN UP WITH IT..... at least for now.
It's a real pity as it looks like a great way to create routes and trips in a date diary form. Why it is crashing I just cannot work out.
(H) Truly bizarre - Importing multiple routes routes in one list to the Nav V
i spent a couple of happy hours creating a new list. In it:
(a) I put several Favourites
(b) I created four separate not very complicated routes, one of about 30 miles and three others of between 200 and 300 miles.
I then highlighted the list and selected 'Transfer, send to device', carefully selecting that routes and Waypoints were to be sent when prompted.
All the data was apparently transferred.
Turning on the Nav V, the Favourites were all present and correct but none of the routes were available to be imported. Nor were they shown when I clicked on the Nav V drive in the lefthand column.
I tried again. Exactly the same, failure.
I then tried sending a list of two routes that I had created a couple of weeks ago, which I knew worked. That was fine.
I then broke the four routes up into four single lists, which I sent individually. BINGO! The four routes appeared on the device, available for import.
I am at a loss to understand why this should be. None of the websites mention that there is a limit on the number of routes that can be transferred in one go in one list. It may though explain why I was struggling yesterday using the 'Trip Planner' which of course is one list, broken into days. I cannot tell if the problem lies with the Nav V device itself, or in the sending process between Mac and device or a combination of both.
i spent a couple of happy hours creating a new list. In it:
(a) I put several Favourites
(b) I created four separate not very complicated routes, one of about 30 miles and three others of between 200 and 300 miles.
I then highlighted the list and selected 'Transfer, send to device', carefully selecting that routes and Waypoints were to be sent when prompted.
All the data was apparently transferred.
Turning on the Nav V, the Favourites were all present and correct but none of the routes were available to be imported. Nor were they shown when I clicked on the Nav V drive in the lefthand column.
I tried again. Exactly the same, failure.
I then tried sending a list of two routes that I had created a couple of weeks ago, which I knew worked. That was fine.
I then broke the four routes up into four single lists, which I sent individually. BINGO! The four routes appeared on the device, available for import.
I am at a loss to understand why this should be. None of the websites mention that there is a limit on the number of routes that can be transferred in one go in one list. It may though explain why I was struggling yesterday using the 'Trip Planner' which of course is one list, broken into days. I cannot tell if the problem lies with the Nav V device itself, or in the sending process between Mac and device or a combination of both.
(H) Truly bizarre - Importing multiple routes routes in one list to the Nav V - PART TWO
This gets more bizarre. Very quickly I created a trial run list, containing four separate really long routes, generated at random from eight different Favourites, picked at random from a long. list. The file and the four routes transferred into the device completely properly and very quickly, all ready to import.
I can only guess that somehow or other four route list I painstakingly created earlier was corrupted. How or why i have no idea.
From now on I will check that the routes have transferred correctly by clicking on 'My Garmin Devices' in the lefthand column where, if they have transferred properly, they should be listed in alphabetical order. I am going to do this BEFORE I eject the device.
I have got some more routes to create tomorrow; so I'll see how it goes then.
This gets more bizarre. Very quickly I created a trial run list, containing four separate really long routes, generated at random from eight different Favourites, picked at random from a long. list. The file and the four routes transferred into the device completely properly and very quickly, all ready to import.
I can only guess that somehow or other four route list I painstakingly created earlier was corrupted. How or why i have no idea.
From now on I will check that the routes have transferred correctly by clicking on 'My Garmin Devices' in the lefthand column where, if they have transferred properly, they should be listed in alphabetical order. I am going to do this BEFORE I eject the device.
I have got some more routes to create tomorrow; so I'll see how it goes then.
(H) Truly bizarre - Importing multiple routes in one list to the Nav V - PART THREE
Even more strange than I thought. I have a second Nav V, bought at a very good price from UKGSer as a spare to muck around with, add different maps to an SD card or whatever. This device took the original list of multiple routes in without any problem. Why one did, whilst the other didn't I have no idea. Both are running the same maps, the same software and are otherwise idententical.
Why the device that wouldn't take the routes in (but would take in the Favourites associated with the routes) but would then take in the routes individually and / or take in multiple routes from another list I have no idea. My Mac certainly thinks it is sending the routes, why they are sometimes not appearing on the device I cannot understand. I think can only keep working on it and talk to Garmin.
Even more strange than I thought. I have a second Nav V, bought at a very good price from UKGSer as a spare to muck around with, add different maps to an SD card or whatever. This device took the original list of multiple routes in without any problem. Why one did, whilst the other didn't I have no idea. Both are running the same maps, the same software and are otherwise idententical.
Why the device that wouldn't take the routes in (but would take in the Favourites associated with the routes) but would then take in the routes individually and / or take in multiple routes from another list I have no idea. My Mac certainly thinks it is sending the routes, why they are sometimes not appearing on the device I cannot understand. I think can only keep working on it and talk to Garmin.
I've had similar issues transferring multiple routes with my zumo. Sometimes it just won't do it, other times ok.
I can't see any reason for the differing behaviour and put it down to the usual garmin incompetence.
I can't see any reason for the differing behaviour and put it down to the usual garmin incompetence.
In a masochistic sort of way I quite like their quirks and failings.
It is though odd that a company that is without a brand leader, seeming to dominate the market, does have some very strange foibles. I am happy to admit that many of the errors are my own, mostly made while I try to learn Garmin's sometimes bizarre software instructions. But, without a doubt, some are of Garmin's making. I only comfort myself that the devices are getting better and better (I started with the early PDA handhelds) and much more reliable. The glitches I can live with, providing I understand WHY they happen and WHEN.
It is though odd that a company that is without a brand leader, seeming to dominate the market, does have some very strange foibles. I am happy to admit that many of the errors are my own, mostly made while I try to learn Garmin's sometimes bizarre software instructions. But, without a doubt, some are of Garmin's making. I only comfort myself that the devices are getting better and better (I started with the early PDA handhelds) and much more reliable. The glitches I can live with, providing I understand WHY they happen and WHEN.
(H) Truly bizarre - Importing multiple routes in one list to the Nav V - PART THREE - The end (or the beginning of the end)
I created four quite complicated routes for use at Easter. Each new list loaded into both devices without a problem.
I have discovered that it really is worthwhile left clicking on the GPS device shown within 'My Garmin Devices' in the column on the left of the Mac's screen in BaseCamp. If the routes have gone across, they will be shown in alphabetical order, listed down below. First should come all your favourites (I have several hundred) then whatever routes the device has in its memory, then any trip logs the device is holding. If you have shared a route by BlueTooth, that will be shown, too. It's quite a good way of editing out (deleting) old routes from the device too, I think. I always delete routes once they have been used, seeing no real point in keeping them, irrespective of the device's memory space.
I don't have an SD card in either of my devices, so I am not sure if that displays as well.
I created four quite complicated routes for use at Easter. Each new list loaded into both devices without a problem.
I have discovered that it really is worthwhile left clicking on the GPS device shown within 'My Garmin Devices' in the column on the left of the Mac's screen in BaseCamp. If the routes have gone across, they will be shown in alphabetical order, listed down below. First should come all your favourites (I have several hundred) then whatever routes the device has in its memory, then any trip logs the device is holding. If you have shared a route by BlueTooth, that will be shown, too. It's quite a good way of editing out (deleting) old routes from the device too, I think. I always delete routes once they have been used, seeing no real point in keeping them, irrespective of the device's memory space.
I don't have an SD card in either of my devices, so I am not sure if that displays as well.
(I) Favourites
I have lots (several hundred) of Favourites on my Nav V. In the main they are hotels, cafes, notable 'sights' or 'sites' and some useful fuel stations I have used over the years. All in all a pretty mixed bunch of places that mean something to me and / or can be used to jog my memory. As I have a passionate dislike of "Waypoints', weeding them out whenever possible, I have none.
On old Garmin devices these points were all stored quite happily under 'Favourites' which I then had sub-divided into cafes, hotels or whatever. On the Nav V it seems a bit different. It appears that when you import a route AND any associated 'Favourites' used in its plotting, the Nav V creates a bespoke Favourites folder just for that one trip. That folder seems to stay live, even when the route is later deleted. Accordingly, the Favourites screen gets cluttered up with lots of different 'Favourites' folders.
I am trying to work out how to best delete them, without necessarily losing the individual 'Favourites' in the process.
I have lots (several hundred) of Favourites on my Nav V. In the main they are hotels, cafes, notable 'sights' or 'sites' and some useful fuel stations I have used over the years. All in all a pretty mixed bunch of places that mean something to me and / or can be used to jog my memory. As I have a passionate dislike of "Waypoints', weeding them out whenever possible, I have none.
On old Garmin devices these points were all stored quite happily under 'Favourites' which I then had sub-divided into cafes, hotels or whatever. On the Nav V it seems a bit different. It appears that when you import a route AND any associated 'Favourites' used in its plotting, the Nav V creates a bespoke Favourites folder just for that one trip. That folder seems to stay live, even when the route is later deleted. Accordingly, the Favourites screen gets cluttered up with lots of different 'Favourites' folders.
I am trying to work out how to best delete them, without necessarily losing the individual 'Favourites' in the process.
Dellis
Registered user
Aye. Turn everything off make your own route, upload to your GPS then use the GPS as a road book that knows where you are. The most important 'feature' to kill off is 'auto recalculate' which can really ruin your day.
Dave
Dellis
Registered user
That is a real PITA and if you find out please let me know, only way I found was to rename ALL the waypoints and save them in new folder which is like I said a PITA.
Dave
I bit the bullet and played around in Favourites.
They is no option on the device to delete the batches of Favourites that come over with a route. It's either delete individual Favourites or the lot.
I backed up my Nav V to my Mac, then deleted the lot from the device... Select All... Delete. I then checked that they had all gone by using the device' home screen short cut.... Nothing there.
I then connected the Nav V to my Mac and into BaseCamp. To my surprise all the Favourites were still listed in the left hand column. I can only assume that there is some vestige file left somewhere on the device?
Anyway, I now had an outwardly clean Nav V. I then uploaded the saved Favouries back to the device.... Bingo! They all came back.
It's a tedious way of doing it just to keep a Favourites list tidy but I can find another option.
They is no option on the device to delete the batches of Favourites that come over with a route. It's either delete individual Favourites or the lot.
I backed up my Nav V to my Mac, then deleted the lot from the device... Select All... Delete. I then checked that they had all gone by using the device' home screen short cut.... Nothing there.
I then connected the Nav V to my Mac and into BaseCamp. To my surprise all the Favourites were still listed in the left hand column. I can only assume that there is some vestige file left somewhere on the device?
Anyway, I now had an outwardly clean Nav V. I then uploaded the saved Favouries back to the device.... Bingo! They all came back.
It's a tedious way of doing it just to keep a Favourites list tidy but I can find another option.
When I started using Basecamp, I found some of the conversions of others' routes a pain and in looking for a solution, came across this collection of (mainly cross-platform) tools for diddling with GPS and Garmin info.
http://www.javawa.nl/
I still use them a lot as they are useful for all sorts of GPS related things.
http://www.javawa.nl/
I still use them a lot as they are useful for all sorts of GPS related things.
Bumpkin
Registered user
I maintain a GPX file of favourites, that I compiled from those already on my 660 and a few others. This is stored on the Zumo and I occasionally delete all favourites from the menu and just reimport this file. The automatic import of way-points on a route into the favourites list is a PITA but possibly necessary
I think it is necessary.... But maybe not.
I had a go at creating a route between two known Favourites, then sent it to the device but did not tick 'Send Waypoints'. My Mac said the route was sent but I could not see it.
However, I am not yet convinced that it I did it properly, so will have another go at it later.
In a way it sort of makes good sense to have the bespoke list Favourites of a particular route held in Favourites; after all, they are what you have asked to be particular to each route. This would be handy if you ran late or wanted to miss out a Favourite; you would simply select the list, hit the Favourite you wanted to skip to and recalculate. What's just annoying is that the bespoke list does not vanish when its associated route is deleted.
I had a go at creating a route between two known Favourites, then sent it to the device but did not tick 'Send Waypoints'. My Mac said the route was sent but I could not see it.
However, I am not yet convinced that it I did it properly, so will have another go at it later.
In a way it sort of makes good sense to have the bespoke list Favourites of a particular route held in Favourites; after all, they are what you have asked to be particular to each route. This would be handy if you ran late or wanted to miss out a Favourite; you would simply select the list, hit the Favourite you wanted to skip to and recalculate. What's just annoying is that the bespoke list does not vanish when its associated route is deleted.
Yes, I would agree with that line of thought/reasoning. And it just reinforces the view that, when creating a route, you should minimise the number of waypoints used to a bare minimum of only the 'important' ones
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