Vibrations numb finger

Mate no such thing as an easy fix on this one. I suffer massively from vibration nothing to do with excessive use of the right hand! Honest!

20 odd years of power tools and abuse in the construction industry

Use the NN ones or the grip puppies both help but several other factors exist that can and do affect the pain and in my case burning numbness.

Hight of the bars

Tightness of fingertips in gloves ( pushing against ends of glove)

Tight strap closers on the wrist, either by the gloves or jacket closers

Length of ride.

No real cure to this except for swap from a boxer engine.

Foook that as this is the most engaging engine I have ever owned, but honestly I didn't suffer anything like the same on other bikes.

If you find a cure let me know please


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If it is the wrist surgery might help. But if it's Vibration White Finger surgery will do nothing.

If it's shoulder, neck or posture related then chiropractic can help (in spite of the neigh sayers).

Bikers often have over tight scalene muscles (wind pressure) which can crimp the arm nerves. Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.
Stuck first rib and /or round shoulders aggravate TOS or can be the cause of it. Surgery "can" help but is risky of nerve damage on top of all the usual surgical risks.
There are virtually no randomised double blind clinical trials for surgery and very few for manipulative therapies because the methods used are only appropriate for drugs (sorry pharmaceutical) trials.
 
Bendy toy said:
If it is the wrist surgery might help. But if it's Vibration White Finger surgery will do nothing.

If it's shoulder, neck or posture related then chiropractic can help (in spite of the neigh sayers).

Bikers often have over tight scalene muscles (wind pressure) which can crimp the arm nerves. Thoracic Outlet Syndrome.
Stuck first rib and /or round shoulders aggravate TOS or can be the cause of it. Surgery "can" help but is risky of nerve damage on top of all the usual surgical risks.
There are virtually no randomised double blind clinical trials for surgery and very few for manipulative therapies because the methods used are only appropriate for drugs (sorry pharmaceutical) trials.
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Rubbish. RCTs are done all the time for all kinds of alternative medicines. those that are shown to work become 'medicine'

BTW have you completed your retraining in neurology yet? Be nice to think that someone offering medical advice (particularly as you try to dissuading people from getting proper medical attention) had the vaguest idea of what they were talking about.

Your knowledge in this area is clearly wafer thin and you should avoid giving medical advice without qualification.
 
Have a look at this stuff.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Business-Office-Industrial-/12576/i.html?_from=R40&_sac=1&_nkw=tico+pad
We use this stuff for locating under large chillers and air handling units.

Just a point to consider, if the vibration is not transmitted directly through the "frame" then this stuff might not work.

My wife has trouble with pins and needles in her left hand sometimes following being knocked off her bicycle by a car ages ago.
Coincides with the shoulder muscle being very tight and angry, loosen that off and the problem goes away for a while. with that muscle being angry is usally is one lower down between the shoulder blade and spine. Which funnily enough coincides with the her left foot needing a "crack".
So just be sure that the problem is not biological rather than mechnical.

In my experience whether doctors or AT's they tend to treat the symptom not the cause, since often the true cause can be difficult to identify and is obscure e.g. posture at work/bed & Pillow etc etc. I went to various people for 'manipulation' and other therapies for a quite a while, sure they made me feel better for a short while having corrected the misalignment but sure enough I went back out of line. Week in week out £30 per time 18 months later...still got the problem..changed the mattress and pillow...much better.
 
I don't have any issue with numb fingers on the GSA but I do with the pushbike. My current thinking with this is that its caused by a constriction of the arteries where they go through the narrow part of the wrist to the fingers and that's down to how I position my hands on the bars. I've found that the problem is eased dramatically by making sure I don't put too much pressure on the central part of the wrist and also to keep my hands as straight as possible in line with the wrist to maintain blood flow. Moving my hand position regularly also seems to help. I know the bars on a GSA don't suit everybody as the hand position is not inline with the wrist or arm - at least its not on mine.
 
stolzy said:
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Not sure which is worse, half-understood advice from wikipedia, or advice from a half-trained alternitivist.
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A bit harsh that don't you think? This is the sort of thing that stiffles people trying to be helpful is that not the point of a forum to share experience and knowldege - help each other?? or am I missing something?
 
I was riding down Denmark last year - Hirtshalls to Esbjerg and my right hand was going numb, bars were vibrating, couldn't go over 65mph at it was too much - made it to the ferry in time, arrived in UK short journey to home and no vibration at all.

First suspicion was that a front tyre weight had fallen off (new tyre for trip), as there was some old padding adhesive next to another weight - but was alright when i got to UK, no vibes at all.
Second thought was I'd put some bio fuel in 200 miles previously, I topped up just before ferry with 95 - would this be a possible?
Luggage/chair/tent were all tight.

Symptoms never returned :nenau
 
blueranger said:
A bit harsh that don't you think? This is the sort of thing that stiffles people trying to be helpful is that not the point of a forum to share experience and knowldege - help each other?? or am I missing something?
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I agree sharing knowledge and experience on a variety of topics is meat and drink to a forum like this.
But I would draw a line at unqualified people offering medical advice (in a tone suggesting they know what they're talking about), particularly when that advice is to avoid seeking a qualified medical opinion. Bendy-toy has proven that his training in this area is inadequate, but apparently that's OK, because his opinion is backed up by wikipedia.

Harsh, I don't think so.
 
stolzy said:
I agree sharing knowledge and experience on a variety of topics is meat and drink to a forum like this.
But I would draw a line at unqualified people offering medical advice (in a tone suggesting they know what they're talking about), particularly when that advice is to avoid seeking a qualified medical opinion. Bendy-toy has proven that his training in this area is inadequate, but apparently that's OK, because his opinion is backed up by wikipedia.

Harsh, I don't think so.
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As a chiropractor is a protected title a layman such as myself assumes that he is qualified/competent to some degree....whether that is sufficient to substantiate the posts concerned i dont know....perhaps you do? This is just my observation but its seems like you have called into question Bendy's knowledge but so far as I can tell you dont seem to have actually corrected any of the biology related advice if its wrong.

As for seeking medical help from a doctor...well in my view and experience thats hit and miss too....standard GP response to a problem....take some pills...Its only if you persistently make enough noise and virtually demand from your GP do you actually get anywhere.

Sorry to say i dont have as much faith in the medical profession as you seem to me to.

So I think you are being harsh.
 
See post #17 which applies - all nerves don't start and finish in the brain or spinal column
Anyone with training in neurology would know that.
 
stolzy said:
See post #17 which applies - all nerves don't start and finish in the brain or spinal column
Anyone with training in neurology would know that.
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True. Knowing when to shut up however is a more nuanced decision that Wiki probably can't help with.

On a personal note since going back to a big twin after years on a four I don't find vibes a problem apart perhaps from the very high reaches of the rev range where things are a bit unpleasant. As most of the good stuff happens well before then I find the rumbles lower down pleasant rather than numbing.

I sympathise if you've an ongoing condition such as carpal tunnel etc and I guess that's where any mitigating gadgets could be useful.
 
stolzy said:
See post #17 which applies - all nerves don't start and finish in the brain or spinal column
Anyone with training in neurology would know that.
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It doesnt say start and end...it says start or end in the brain or spinal column....is that still incorrect?
 
blueranger said:
It doesnt say start and end...it says start or end in the brain or spinal column....is that still incorrect?
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Take a fucking big hammer and twat your thumb with it. The nerve impulse starts in your thumb and ends in your brain saying "fuck me, that hurts"......Check me out, I could retrain as a neurosurgeon. :D
 
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