Watch out there is a service cheat about!

Surprised you didn't give Balderston's a chance to comment and put things right? I have been using them now for 3 bikes and 7 years and have enjoyed superb service throughout. I couldn't recommend them any higher - they are an outstanding dealer who would be mortified to read what you have accused them of.

I have passed a link to this thread to Balderston's service manager.

Got fed up with the incompetent idiots, soz, don't suffer fools.

PB
 
Just looking at that means your valve clearances etc aren't going to be done till 9200miles yet the service schedule states quite clearly every 6k.
Your valve clearances, injection balance etc would not have been done at the earlier service, it was a annual service (fluids change).[/QUOTE]

And at one point in time I wondered why GS riders/owners were called Tossers. (Every 6k or at 6k?)

PB
 
Surprised you didn't give Balderston's a chance to comment and put things right? I have been using them now for 3 bikes and 7 years and have enjoyed superb service throughout. I couldn't recommend them any higher - they are an outstanding dealer who would be mortified to read what you have accused them of.

I have passed a link to this thread to Balderston's service manager.

Oh nice. Perhaps they will contact me and explain why they sold me a bike with fault codes in the ECU, damaged and bodged panniers, lock barrels that all fell out, incorrectly programmed ECU service reminder, incorrectly completed service book and more besides.

PB :beerjug:
 
The simple answer to all this is.....................do it yourself every 6000 miles it's quite straightforward, all this annual service lark is I think a load of rubbish...............mine has not seen a BMW dealer since the day I bought it and isn't going to while I have it.................and it's had the EWS and FPC changed under recall! (and it's never so much as coughed.......................and still on it's original battery) When it goes wrong I'll fix it!
 
PB - try speaking to the owner, Robin Homewood, on 01733 565470. I've already suggested BMW UK if you don't want to do that, and I imagine they will both be open again on Tuesday morning.

You might not suffer fools, but if you don't try to get your issues resolved by the people who can do something about them, then who is the foolish one?

Good luck :thumb2
 
The simple answer to all this is.....................do it yourself every 6000 miles it's quite straightforward, all this annual service lark is I think a load of rubbish...............mine has not seen a BMW dealer since the day I bought it and isn't going to while I have it.................and it's had the EWS and FPC changed under recall! (and it's never so much as coughed.......................and still on it's original battery) When it goes wrong I'll fix it!

spot on !

Any modern OHC motor shouldn't need its valves checking for at least 10,000 miles.

Suzi GS 1000 and KZ1000 from 1979 have shown this to be true and they are a 30 year old motor and design.

Anything less is money grabbing and preying on uneducated owners who are effectively paying the premiums for their own 'factory' warranty.
 
spot on !

Any modern OHC motor shouldn't need its valves checking for at least 10,000 miles.

Suzi GS 1000 and KZ1000 from 1979 have shown this to be true and they are a 30 year old motor and design.

Anything less is money grabbing and preying on uneducated owners who are effectively paying the premiums for their own 'factory' warranty.

Wot utter bollox !! Depends on what engine is used for.
Like any vehicle the manufacturer's have a service schedule to maintain it.
For them to honour their warranty you have to have the vehicle serviced at the appropriate time or mileage.
Wether you agree with or don't, the bottom line is if you don't service it according to the manufacturer then its bye bye warranty.
And when that happens what are you going to do cos you won't have a leg to stand on !
 
(Every 6k or at 6k?)

PB[/QUOTE]

6,12,18,24,30,36 . Stopped at 36 cos most people will have changed 'em by then cos they're not new enough :aidan
 
Wot utter bollox !! Depends on what engine is used for.
Like any vehicle the manufacturer's have a service schedule to maintain it.
For them to honour their warranty you have to have the vehicle serviced at the appropriate time or mileage.
Wether you agree with or don't, the bottom line is if you don't service it according to the manufacturer then its bye bye warranty.
And when that happens what are you going to do cos you won't have a leg to stand on !

you're not getting it - the service schedule is made on the safe side to protect the manufacturers warranty -

no service - no warranty

you no pay BMW lots of unnecessary service money - you no get warranty.

unnecessary cos they don't need it.

PS most motorcycle engines are used in motorcycles ;)
 
I thought servicing was every 6000 miles or every year, whichever is the sooner

That's what I've always done and works for me

Oh, the joy of not spending £15k on a 12GSA with electrickery gizmo's and service indicator lights

It was until the DOHC. It's a bit of a joke and annoyed me when I found out. I'm not sure how the rest of the services pan out though as I've lost the schedule someone kindly posted on this forum. I hope it's not annual AND every 6k for the life of the bike :eek:
 
PS most motorcycle engines are used in motorcycles ;)[/QUOTE]

No shit !! Your post stated "any modern OHC engine".
 
It was until the DOHC. It's a bit of a joke and annoyed me when I found out. I'm not sure how the rest of the services pan out though as I've lost the schedule someone kindly posted on this forum. I hope it's not annual AND every 6k for the life of the bike :eek:

It's more fun on an old'un:blagblah
 
It was until the DOHC. It's a bit of a joke and annoyed me when I found out. I'm not sure how the rest of the services pan out though as I've lost the schedule someone kindly posted on this forum. I hope it's not annual AND every 6k for the life of the bike :eek:

Service clocks on the GS range came out on bikes built after August 07.
Cars have had them ages.
All BMW bikes have had a mileage and/or time related service schedule since I can remember.
The problem is now you've got a display telling you it needs servicing and thats what pisses folk off.
Thats called progress -we live in an age where folk have to be spoon fed & have lost the ability to make their own decisions & for that you can thank the computer & mobile phone.
If the service clock annoys you (& thats what its also probably designed to do) - find someone with a GS911
 
The simple answer to all this is.....................do it yourself every 6000 miles it's quite straightforward, all this annual service lark is I think a load of rubbish...............mine has not seen a BMW dealer since the day I bought it and isn't going to while I have it.................and it's had the EWS and FPC changed under recall! (and it's never so much as coughed.......................and still on it's original battery) When it goes wrong I'll fix it!

That's great if you can, but unfortunately I'm not so mechanically minded and so have to have it done by someone else.

With regards to some of the other comments regarding when things should be checked/adjusted is this based on actual fact or just an opinion? My feeling is that the developer of the engine should know what's best for it. And I'm sure if it was massively over cautious and a money making scheme it would have been made common knowledge by now by other experts in the field.
 
Half the twats on 1200's shouldn't be allowed on the road never mind on the arse end of a spanner.
Hence BMW laughing all the way to the bank:D
 
you're not getting it - the service schedule is made on the safe side to protect the manufacturers warranty -

no service - no warranty

you no pay BMW lots of unnecessary service money - you no get warranty.

unnecessary cos they don't need it.

PS most motorcycle engines are used in motorcycles ;)


nearly forgot...Yamaha FZ750 - 1986 - first valve service at 25000 miles..:augie
 
nearly forgot...Yamaha FZ750 - 1986 - first valve service at 25000 miles..:augie

And that's when all the cost was made up cos nearly all of 'em wanted doing & half the stuff to get at 'em was seized cos it was probably on its umpteenth owner by then.
 
Watch out a certain dealer isnt having your pants down folks!

PB :beerjug:

Perhaps they presumed you might use the bike and cover more than 6K miles over the year instead of moaning on an internet forum. What fools they were. :D
 


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