What years should I avoid

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Hi all, I presently have a R1150gs and am considering trading in for an R1200GS.
While the various reliability issues of the R1200GS are well documented it has been suggested to me that these problems were mainly resolved by 2008 and that any bike from then on would be much more reliable. Can anyone advise if this is wishful thinking or is this indeed the situation.

Regards
Niall
 
Since you've posted in the liquid cooled section, I would avoid all years except a 2013 model :D
 
I would avoid the earlier servo abs model the later abs has not got the servo of course you can buy a non abs one. I have had 2 gs's one a GSA both 1200 had no probs whatsoever that I can remember. Would love a GSA again. Alas my 1200 rt with 67000 kms 06 is worth fcuk all so I wil ride it for years to come. I bought it in August 2010 with 9000 kms and the mileage just keeps climbing. JJH
 
A BMW mechanic once told me to go 'post 07' as the servicing costs were massively reduced. Well, the official time to do every job (big and small) had been reduced by careful redesign to allow easy servicing. A Customer with a 08 bike suggested that the Main dealers had upped their hourly rate to compensate.

Don't know if either is actually true or not.
 
I would have thought the later ones were more 'sorted' and the twin cam motor is very nice but that squeaky exhaust valve can be a nuisance.................!:augie

Mines a 'basic spec' factory order 2010 GSA with added ABS, heated grips, fog lamps and enduro box so i've no electronic suspension, traction control, tyre peressure monitors or on board computer etc.

I thought if i kept it simple the bike might be more reliable and so far no complaints and i'm very happy with my 1200

What GSA would you like?
 
A BMW mechanic once told me to go 'post 07' as the servicing costs were massively reduced. Well, the official time to do every job (big and small) had been reduced by careful redesign to allow easy servicing. A Customer with a 08 bike suggested that the Main dealers had upped their hourly rate to compensate.

Don't know if either is actually true or not.

So why post it:nenau
 
ive a 2007 gsa upward on 30000 miles and its given me no problems other than a rear shock which is now a shiny wilburs unit,no abs on it to go wrong,only problem is that i like the red which came out in 08,prices are down at the moment and plenty of bargains to be had if your not trading in:beerjug:
 
So why post it:nenau


I posted it because I thought it might be an opinion that might be of value and worthy of consideration (and no more or less).

But I am sorry for posting this.

In the spirit of this forum then, I can categorically state that post 07 R1200GS's are without question, and without doubt, more reliable and easier to service than pre 07's.

Same statement, still just my opinion/understanding/belief.
 
Alternatively you could just take the info given and investigate further (if you were so inclined). You may choose (for example) to check out the service cost/times of pre and post 07 bikes and consider this. Alternatively, you might choose not to. I merely offered a pointer as to something that one might want to consider.

But i forgot, this is the home of those classic threads: 'I have ground out the footpegs' (failure to mention the footpeg lowering kit) and the 'This is the best helmet ever, you have to buy one NOW. (A couple of months later followed by that classic: 'I've just worn the helmet again and it is absolutely shit..'
 
Site purpose

Why do members of this site constantly argue or slag each other of.why don't people simply ride and enjoy their bikes!!!!!!
Life's just to short !! N:nenau

Alternatively you could just take the info given and investigate further (if you were so inclined). You may choose (for example) to check out the service cost/times of pre and post 07 bikes and consider this. Alternatively, you might choose not to. I merely offered a pointer as to something that one might want to consider.

But i forgot, this is the home of those classic threads: 'I have ground out the footpegs' (failure to mention the footpeg lowering kit) and the 'This is the best helmet ever, you have to buy one NOW. (A couple of months later followed by that classic: 'I've just worn the helmet again and it is absolutely shit..'
 
Why do members of this site constantly argue or slag each other of.why don't people simply ride and enjoy their bikes!!!!!!
Life's just to short !! N:nenau

What's it got to do with you? :D
 
If you can stretch to a twin cam, they are well, worth the extra money over the non TC models. The newer you can get, the longer BMW have had to iron out any niggles, and as the TC has stopped production, theoretically speaking, one of the last should be bullet proof.:thumb

I'm not just saying that because mine is a 2012, and will be up for sale shortly, honest:blast:D
 
Just to balance things out...

I have a 1200GS 04 with 71000+ miles on the clock and last week I had to replace the starter motor....:D
 
I have seen some dealers offering reduced rates on older bikes, not the same thing as "Upping the labour rate", still seems a bit crap to reward those pulling upwards of £10k for a new bike with higher service costs - but as a consumer you have a choice and could bugger off and buy another brand.

I understood 08 (MU) models were improved in both reliability and had a bit more power and sharper steering so I bought one, not without faults in 18 months and worse than any Jap bike I had owned so I returned to the Japs.

There is a good argument early bikes will have had most weak components sorted by now, and I think the same issues still roll on for any year.

The FD's are still prone to early expiration (08's may be slightly better and twin cams better still) and you still need to carry an FPC.

Beyond that I think the other "well known" issues are more likely very rare exceptions such as Gearbox failures and Dropped valves (although both extremely expensive)

And if you avoid the gadgets even less to go wrong, ABS controllers are expensive and not uncommon failures (not so common either) ESA shocks won't last forever and cost a lot more to replace than the conventional ones - plus have other electronic components that may fail (although the seem pretty good)

On the plus side dealers love to stitch punters up with every accessory and dislike bikes with few gadgets, which if your in the market for a low-spec bike makes for a bargain.

I fancied a new GS last spring and was considering just the comfort pack (Heated Grips and Computer) it would be harder to sell on, but had little to go wrong, bought a Tenere in the end as IMO they are less likely to go wrong and cheaper to fix

My best buy would be a 2010 twin cam with low miles and few extra's, or a 2011 Super Tenere which would set you back the same sort of money (as a basic 2010 GS) and have ABS and Traction Control.
 
Just my opinion based on high mileage owenership of a 06 and a 10.

Agree with Rasher that low spec is a sensible option - didn't have ABS on the 06 (mainly cos I hated the servo brakes) - on this one I just have ABS, heated grips and the computer.

The twin cam is is better and I believe more reliable bike. Service cost seems less and it doesn't feel like it needs a service unlike the 06 (if that makes sense ?).

Otherwise it's luck of the draw with problems. I had a lot of warranty work done on the 06 (running into thousands if I wasn't covered) and only the exhaust widget go on this one - although it lives an easier life.
 
just buy what you can afford and enjoy it,don't listen to all the killjoys.try it, if you like it & can afford it, buy it.I have an 08 GSA and it hasn't missed a beat since day 1.shit whats thats noise????:D
 
Hi all, I presently have a R1150gs and am considering trading in for an R1200GS.
While the various reliability issues of the R1200GS are well documented it has been suggested to me that these problems were mainly resolved by 2008 and that any bike from then on would be much more reliable. Can anyone advise if this is wishful thinking or is this indeed the situation.

Regards
Niall

You'll be sorreeeeeee!
 
Plain Jane hear

2010 twin cam GSA here with 22K, bought from new, but I always do full BMW service history ...plain Jane, heated grips N chrome exhaust, my 4th GS. Mint! :thumb2

Rather have some/little extras and full BMW history than full spec n no history, then again some great independents about re servicing.

TD
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I went for an 08 bike to get the larger bearing (After 06, they went to 32mm from 30mm). It's said to be more reliable, but also a standard size so can be got from any bearings factors.

This shows the FD rebuild. The drive shaft pinion needle roller looks really tucked away. Does it get starved of oil?
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166875&highlight=patzx12

After reading this (especially post #13) when my main wheel bearing fails, I will be replacing ALL of the FD bearings while the case is open - not simply the two wheel shaft bearings. More cost and maybe some shimming needed, but good insurance IMO.
 
2006 GSA, Servo assisted ABS (love it), 36000 miles, never missed a beat. Not overly expensive to service at Bahnstormers either, my mates 10 plate GSA always gets a bigger service bill than mine so there.
 


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