What's it worth?

[GSAde]

Having purchased a 2610 a mate of mine wants to buy my old gpsIII+ & touratech mount - anybody any idea what I should ask for it? - I aint got a clue.

Ade

 

[Den]

OOOO ... fraid there is no market for these old things now.............. Ill tell you what, since yer a pal, Ill take it off your hands for £20. but dont tell everybody

 

[Baz]

Seem to be going for about £450 on this website. I was cosidering buying one, but am going to bite the bullet and buy a 2610 when the Aspid Export site is back on line.

Baz

 

[judge]

A GPS III+ plus mount around £100-£150 mark. Still a nice versatile unit especially if you're not looking for turn-by-turn routing

 

[PanEuropean]

You'll probably get more money for the mount if you sell it to someone who can use it for a GPS V, which is the same size as the III+.

If you can get £20 for the GPS III+, take it. Don't take any more than that or you will make an enemy. The thing only has one meg of memory, that's not enough to hold a single segment of a current automotive mapping product. The only possible use of a III+ in 2004 would be for a hiker, or maybe a bicyclist, if they loaded a topo segment or a WorldMap segment in it.

For automotive use, a person would be better off spending money on a good Michelin map than on a III+.

PanEuropean

PS to casual readers like Baz: We're talking about a III+, which is an 8 year old handheld the same size as a GPS V, not a SP III, which is an entirely different product.

 

[Baz]

I stand corrected.

 

[Den]

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If you can get £20 for the GPS III+, take it. Don't take any more than that or you will make an enemy.

I was only jesting Adrian, I didnt know it was only worth 20. Surely not.

 

[trotsky]

Pan European is right, the GPS III+ is for walkers or cyclists only.

You might get £50 for the mount in good condition, P&P will be about £2.00 in the UK so you could probably include that.

Someone who wants a hiking GPS might stretch to £30 or £40 for the unit. The only reason a biker might want it is if they they want to learn the real basics of GPS navigation on a simple minded system...

When my GPS II+ finally gets replaced I'm sticking it on "Keith's Fund" for £20 for anyone who wants to do just that.

 

[judge]

You guys crack me up!

Not everyone needs a dedicated sat nav system. Some people can actually navigate using a combination of maps and GPSR.

I have an SPIII and a GPSIII+ and only one of them is a vesatile usfeful tool to aid navigation, the other gets me to No. 213 High St, Anytown without fuss but is next to useless when I dissappear off the tarmac or as I did in the Picos want to know how high I was.

Still what do I know eh?

 

[PanEuropean]

Judge wrote:

Still what do I know eh?

Uh, well, I don't know what you do know, but I know what you don't know - what you don't know is that if you press the menu button on the SP III, and go to the GPS status page, you will find your altitude displayed right there.

As for satellite nav systems and maps - I think most of us use both at the same time. I have used a few GPSR's in my time, right now I have two, both of which have fairly competent navigation management systems (the SP 2650 and GPSmap 296), however, the photo below shows how I have things set up for riding. The paper map and the GPSR have complimentary, and only slightly overlapping purposes - neither one replaces the other.

PanEuropean

 

[PanEuropean]

Adrian:

Best thing to do with the III+ is to load the local WorldMap or topo segment into it, put a set of fresh batteries in it, and give it to a niece or nephew as a birthday gift or a summer play gift. You'll make the kid really, really happy, and it won't cost you anything.

BTW, if you know a local engraving company that does things competently, you can have the kid's name and phone number engraved (lightly!) on the aft face of the GPSR - that way, if they lose it, it will probably come back. I bought a whole box full of the aviation model of the GPS III+ about 5 years ago - sent them out to all our staff in the field to use to survey runways - and I had all of them engraved with the employee name before I shipped them out. Garmin's only comment about the engraving (when one was dropped and had to be sent back for repairs) was "What a neat idea".

PanEuropean

 

[richie]

Judge got: Uh, well, I don't know what you do know, but I know what you don't know - what you don't know is that if you press the menu button on the SP III, and go to the GPS status page, you will find your altitude displayed right there.

As for satellite nav systems and maps - I think most of us use both at the same time. I have used a few GPSR's in my time, right now I have two, both of which have fairly competent navigation management systems (the SP 2650 and GPSmap 296), however, the photo below shows how I have things set up for riding. The paper map and the GPSR have complimentary, and only slightly overlapping purposes - neither one replaces the other.

PanEuropean

And that told you

 

[judge]

And that told you

Sure did expose my frailty with the features set of my SPIII and I thank Pan European for it , but somewhat overlooked the fact that if you or I were going home to Ireland my SPIII and your GPS60 would be a chocolate tea-pot with the mapping available as shipped, however the person with a GPSIII+ or V (or many other non-Garmin units) and equipped with say, the Touratech QV software or just a set of OS Explorer maps would be in a much favourable position and not struggling as I am at the moment trying to plan my route through SW Ireland to Lahinch.

I'm not saying the Sat Nav units aren't great, they are, I have one but the others are not as poor an alternative as has been suggested. And on that note there are no shortage of rallyists on here who'll testify to that fact I know as one of them was bensing y ear in the Picos a few weeks ago

 

[Deleted account W]

.... and not struggling as I am at the moment trying to plan my route through SW Ireland to Lahinch.

I know what you mean Andy.

It all seems to go a little astray when you get near the West coast.

Attached is the best I can do.

 

[richie]

Sure did expose my frailty with the features set of my SPIII and I thank Pan European for it , but somewhat overlooked the fact that if you or I were going home to Ireland my SPIII and your GPS60 would be a chocolate tea-pot with the mapping available as shipped, however the person with a GPSIII+ or V (or many other non-Garmin units) and equipped with say, the Touratech QV software or just a set of OS Explorer maps would be in a much favourable position and not struggling as I am at the moment trying to plan my route through SW Ireland to Lahinch.

I'm not saying the Sat Nav units aren't great, they are, I have one but the others are not as poor an alternative as has been suggested. And on that note there are no shortage of rallyists on here who'll testify to that fact I know as one of them was bensing y ear in the Picos a few weeks ago

Andy I agree with you, I will be in ireland in a few days time so I'll be able to laugh at how bad it gets. If its bad enough I'll probably sell the GPS as I have my planning permission and will be a full time resident of west coast ireland sometime in the next year...

Then I'll be after something that will show me where I am with nice graphics.

As for finding a route to your west coast do, I am sure like me you could almost do it with your eyse closed....

Happy trip, I'll be there too just not on the bike or in Lahinch...

 

[richie]

Same old subject but a few minutes later. After a few months and maybe 5000KM with my 60 I can say it is a great little toy. But I realise what I like about it is its general functionality and its autorouting is of little use to me. So what are the alternatives.

GPS with a nice colour screen that can show me OS quality graphics without the autorouting but obviuosly with the ability to mark waypoints for reference etc..

I have been trying GPSU but I can't get my thick head around it well enough, and after reading the help file I am not even sure I will be able to upload a map as Garmin are not very helpfull with transfer protocols.

I WANT OS QUALITY SCREEN DISPALY ... NOT AUTOROUTING....

Ideas on a postcard to....

 

[judge]

Touratech QV 3.0

Richie,

Whilst you got some PC time get yourself here and have a play, you can download the full version for 30 day trial.

You can load .tiff files of OSI maps into it and viola OS quality maps on a GPS. Though TT also sell ready made maps for several countries.

Of course you will need one of those toys that people use to wedge open doors or as some people know them fully functional GPSR's, from the Garmin range GPS III+ & V plus the likes of 176/176C and others.

You can use waypoints, routes and tracks already stored in your 60C.

If I can get my hands on a V I may well give this a try for Ireland, that or I'll just get my door wedge out and take the OSI explorer maps.

And yes I could find my way there with my eyes closed, safety issues notwithstanding but I fancy taking a less obvious route much like that Bob Jeffries was suggesting, quite like the idea of runnning the gauntlet of the Gap of Dunloe pony and trappers

 

[richie]

Thanks Andy I have some time this week before I leave so I'll give it ago. Hopefully it might work on a 60 as it is more or less a newer V.

The gap of Dunloe on a bike is really nice I've done it a few times with no problems from the traps....

 

[BlackBetty]

I must be seriously behind the times here, but I find my Garmin III+ more than adequate. Yes it does not autoroute, yes it only has 1.44Megs of memory. However if you use the correct mapping software such as Roads and Recreation, you can get a decent chunk of the country in. For instance, on a day trip out to the Penines, I can get everything from East Manchester to West Sheffield down to Stoke, and this is sufficient for me to be able to explore the lanes. If you wish to autoroute you need autorouting software loaded on the PC and download the waypoints. Yes it can be a handful, but this means I can start whetting the appetite for the ride the night before. Mostly I use the III+ in conjunction with a pocket road map that doesn't have great detail and which sits in / on the map holder of the tank bag. The combination of the two, adds to the sence of adventure. I would not feel I was touring and exploring the country (being an immigrant) if I had some machine telling me exactly what and where to go. Now, I have sat nav in my company car and for business purposes it's great...but then I want to get from A to B as quickly and efficiently as possible. Therin lies the difference IMHO