Why do I start these things

[Mort]

OK peeps, here's a golden oppotunity to point out what a tit I am

I bought some nice led indicators with built in brake lights and front pilot lights (there's your 1st oppotunity)
I have no problem with either the brake or pilot lights and as I'm sure you'll all know the indicators now flash too fast (I was ready for that) so I have fitted a 10 ohm resistor to each indicator but they still flash too fast.
They flash at the correct speed when I turn the hazards on.
Could that mean that the resistors are not powerfull enough?
Do I need to fit a new relay?

Help!

I can't takes anymore I tells ya



edit...it's an 03 1150GS

 

[Borderraider]

You need to change the wiring to UK spec

The Greek loom fitted to your GS is designed to operate at 220 V AC

 

[dancata]

OK peeps, here's a golden oppotunity to point out what a tit I am

I bought some nice led indicators with built in brake lights and front pilot lights (there's your 1st oppotunity)
I have no problem with either the brake or pilot lights and as I'm sure you'll all know the indicators now flash too fast (I was ready for that) so I have fitted a 10 ohm resistor to each indicator but they still flash too fast.
They flash at the correct speed when I turn the hazards on.
Could that mean that the resistors are not powerfull enough?
Do I need to fit a new relay?

Help!

I can't takes anymore I tells ya



edit...it's an 03 1150GS

How many watts are the resistors? Electrical resistance is not so important as the power for this resistors; I think you can find ceramics ones for 20W if I recall correctly. So buy those and connect them in parallel with the lights, and it will work just fine

Or do the signal relay mod and have no more resistors and much less power consumption

 

[(RIP) petcul]

OK peeps, here's a golden oppotunity to point out what a tit I am

+1. Thought you were off the site for the weekend

I knew the original post was just attention seeking!

 

[D6]

use a kissan indicator unit, solid state so the flash rate always remains the same, and you get self cancel timers too

 

[Mort]

+1. Thought you were off the site for the weekend

I knew the original post was just attention seeking!

Thanks for the diagnosis but are you any good with resistors?

No, thought not

How many watts are the resistors? Electrical resistance is not so important as the power for this resistors; I think you can find ceramics ones for 20W if I recall correctly. So buy those and connect them in parallel with the lights, and it will work just fine

Or do the signal relay mod and have no more resistors and much less power consumption

25w.

 

[(RIP) petcul]

Thanks for the diagnosis but are you any good with resistors?

No, thought not



25w.

Might tell you on Monday when you're back in communication

 

[davegs]

Flashers

Resistance is the value wattage is just the capacity two little and youve got a heater, resitance is the thing (thats why their called resistors!).

 

[Mort]

Resistance is the value wattage is just the capacity two little and youve got a heater, resitance is the thing (thats why their called resistors!).

Right....thanks....that's cleared that up then


I thought the ohm value (in this case 10ohm) was the resistance?

 

[(RIP) DitchWater]

Stop this

You need to adjust your resistance value.

The wattage of the resistors should be equal to, or slightly greater, than the lamps fitted to your new lighting assembley. This should ensure that the resistors will not burn out: In fact a lower wattage could be risked because the power through the resistor will only be short term but it's better to over-engineer this than work at tolerance levels because we don't have to save the pennies on a production run.

You can experiment with a potentiometer, if you can get your hands on one; remove a volume control from an old radio or get a 100 ohm @ 5W from Maplins. A potentiometer is a VARIABLE resistor which adjusts the resistance when the knob is turned, and when you are satisfied that you have an acceptable flash frequency, remove the potentiometer (being careful not to adjust it again), and measure the resistance (with a multimeter) across its' outer terminals, and that will tell you what resistor to install.

You could also google Differentiator and Intergrator for a lecture on how electrical timing is done.

FFS it's Sunday morning.

 

[Mort]

D6 And Ditchwater, thanks for your advice and as I am but a simple lad I've taken the easiest and most expensive option and gone with D6's recommendation of fitting the kisan system

Oh and thanks for pointing out my personality disorder Petcul, you can read all about it on various blogs on the interweb

 

[Rugged Path]

you can buy an LED flasher unit which does away with resistors. But, doesn't the indicator signal lights in the console also upset the power used!

 

[Greg Masters]

How have you wired the resistors?

Are they in line with the LED feed or are they across the LEDs?

And why 10Ω?



Greg

 

[Greg Masters]

 

[Mort]

How have you wired the resistors?

Are they in line with the LED feed or are they across the LEDs?

And why 10Ω?



Greg

Sorry Greg, I missed your reply.
10 ohm are what I had "in stock" and I thought that would be ample (also rated 25w) as I had used exactly the same ones on a ZX9 and a 900 Hornet.

Anyhoo, the Kisan unit arrived today and 5 minutes later all was sorted, it was worth the money just for the simplicity

https://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?product=SM-5

Thanks again for all your advice