In which way do you find it "useless"
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In which way do you find it "useless"
is it anywhere near as good as Spotlight?
ovenpaa
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For a while I have been of the opinion that Vista was basically the updated version of Windows ME - basically neither fish nor fowl. It is confused at best but ticks a few boxes so I was quite keen to see Windows 7 but it is very apparent yet again that it is a dumbed down version of the microsoft marketing machines original concept, I guess the only good news right now is our software works on it.
I hate to say this but right now I would suggest to people wanting to go down the windows route to stick with XP in classic theme.
Or run Linux....
I hate to say this but right now I would suggest to people wanting to go down the windows route to stick with XP in classic theme.
Or run Linux....
Never used a mac in my life...but it may be similar?
http://developer.apple.com/document....html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001849-CJBEJBHH
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx
casperfelix
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Linux, Linux, Linux
Why are you bothering with Windows? Build your own rig and install Linux.
Building your own rig is fun and easy - and you get what you want.
Linux (operating system) is free and you can pick from a million and one variations - some of which are very intuitive to use - and all are far more secure than windows.
Then you get into free software - open-office etc ............ and so it goes on and on until you are a technical genius like me.
Why are you bothering with Windows? Build your own rig and install Linux.
Building your own rig is fun and easy - and you get what you want.
Linux (operating system) is free and you can pick from a million and one variations - some of which are very intuitive to use - and all are far more secure than windows.
Then you get into free software - open-office etc ............ and so it goes on and on until you are a technical genius like me.
Dahoum
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Oh it's definitely similar
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Don't take this the wrong way, but real geeks don't use that fekkin Danasoft signature telling me what it thinks my browser is and where it thinks I'm posting from. If you want to go and spread FUD, at least explain why it's relevant
Edit: It's not a big flame, really, and I'm a BIG Linux fan, but It really does irk me somewhat when I see signatures that really just serve to make people paranoid when they don't know what they really should be worrying about
Edit#2: 'Ere it looks like we're neighbours - fancy a pint?
Why bother? Unless you need the sophistication switch to Open Office as I have. It's free and will not only do everything that I need it will also read and write in MSOffice format and can export as pdf or even e-mail pdf direct from the current file. With Sun Microsystems behind it it's not M Mouse either.
Job done and less money in the pockets of deceitful MS and the incompetent employees. (Maybe the employee bit is a bit harsh, I'm sure that the senior management deliberately want half developed bug ridden and insecure software so that they can regularly launch "improvements".)
Oh it's definitely similar
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Well, there you go then
Nice venue - I see they have managed to fit the entire world Mac user base in there at the same time
Dahoum
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Well, there you go then
Nice venue - I see they have managed to fit the entire world Mac user base in there at the same time
Dont start it Clive
Why bother? Unless you need the sophistication switch to Open Office as I have. It's free and will not only do everything that I need it will also read and write in MSOffice format and can export as pdf or even e-mail pdf direct from the current file. With Sun Microsystems behind it it's not M Mouse either.
Job done and less money in the pockets of deceitful MS and the incompetent employees. (Maybe the employee bit is a bit harsh, I'm sure that the senior management deliberately want half developed bug ridden and insecure software so that they can regularly launch "improvements".)
I've just moved to Open Office, and as you say it does everything that MS office does and more
My experience (and the experience of a good few others according to other forum rants, not this forum) is that file explorer is as slow as hell reading new drives or even existing ones, typing a word into the search field starts vista searching at a very slow rate of knots (indexing switched on or not seems to make no difference). To perform a new search means vista then re-reads the contents of the drive that has just been read, thereby forcing another sit and wait period. It takes an eternity for explorer to read the contents of a external HD or USB, overall very frustrating. Version is Home Ultimate.
In which way do you find it "useless"
I got chatting with someone who had done some work for M$ development teams a few years ago. He stated that the developers were paid bonuses for the number of bugs they found and fixed, so the developers just wrote extra bugs into their own code so that they or their colleagues could earn better bonuses. It would appear they wrote so many bugs that when the time came to fix, they had forgotten about a few, so some did not get fixed for a long time (Service Packs anyone).
Why bother? Unless you need the sophistication switch to Open Office as I have. It's free and will not only do everything that I need it will also read and write in MSOffice format and can export as pdf or even e-mail pdf direct from the current file. With Sun Microsystems behind it it's not M Mouse either.
Job done and less money in the pockets of deceitful MS and the incompetent employees. (Maybe the employee bit is a bit harsh, I'm sure that the senior management deliberately want half developed bug ridden and insecure software so that they can regularly launch "improvements".)
OS X 10.5.6 .................. and relax
Only bought my new PC last month and thought that vista was so new that it would be many years before a new system would be brought in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7817190.stm
oh ffs i'm still getting ead round xp
ovenpaa
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I am certainly a fan of Linux but I would never say all are more secure than windows, in fact far from it, many of the current Linux boxes in the hands of the masses are easy targets for anyone with a little imagination.
This is not a Winders (NTFS) versus *Nix thing either as both have merit and strengths in different areas and both have issues, just don't believe that Linux is an inherently secure operating system because in vanilla form the majority of the distributions are not.
ovenpaa
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Hmm... Ubuntu is built on Debian, well known for being old and solid and at the other end of the bleeding edge stuff so my money would have been on it as being the most secure.
Ubuntu 8.04 is probably the most widely used of Ubuntu's distributions as the take up on 8.10 is quite slow right now. My wife runs an Ubuntu 8.04 variant, she ran a default install and after prodding it a few times I chose an easy option and was in it in under 15 minutes, fair to say we are both on the same subnet and I am her husband and I had told her what I was going to do.
She IMHO is typical of many newer Linux users.
So I stand by my comment, Vista versus Linux - both have good and bad points, Linux was once described to me as 'The thinking man's Operating System' and I do agree, in the hands of the inexperienced it really can be defeated very quickly. The robustness of an OS will never make up for user awareness.
EDIT
Background - I work for an IT security company and have done so for many many years, mostly Malware/Firewalls these days. I work in this field many hours every single of my life day and then when I am not working on it I read about it. It is a passion to me. Perhaps my awareness of security is different to many other people.
Ubuntu 8.04 is probably the most widely used of Ubuntu's distributions as the take up on 8.10 is quite slow right now. My wife runs an Ubuntu 8.04 variant, she ran a default install and after prodding it a few times I chose an easy option and was in it in under 15 minutes, fair to say we are both on the same subnet and I am her husband and I had told her what I was going to do.
She IMHO is typical of many newer Linux users.
So I stand by my comment, Vista versus Linux - both have good and bad points, Linux was once described to me as 'The thinking man's Operating System' and I do agree, in the hands of the inexperienced it really can be defeated very quickly. The robustness of an OS will never make up for user awareness.
EDIT
Background - I work for an IT security company and have done so for many many years, mostly Malware/Firewalls these days. I work in this field many hours every single of my life day and then when I am not working on it I read about it. It is a passion to me. Perhaps my awareness of security is different to many other people.
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