Winter daily rider tyres

My new bike came with EXP's. I thought they were very good, and got about 4,000 out of the rear before it was just too badly squared off. This is my first GS, and I guess I'm used to that sort of milage from a rear tyre (Would like to find something that lasts a tad longer though..). I thought the EXP was a cracking wet weather tyre, and although I've now put something else on (trying road attacks..), I'd wager that they'd be a pretty good winter tyre.

Tyre threads are pretty subjective :). Some pepes like grip, and some like mileage, and as yet, we don't have that magic formulae. :thumb
 
For purely road use in winter I'd be tempted to use the Avon Azaro ST front/Storm rear combo as both were excellent on cold, wet slimey roads on both my VFR and K1200S :thumb2
 
I have just renewed my rear trail attack with the same, for one i thought it was brilliant and the other reason the front hasn't worn out yet. 8000 miles for the back which is good isn't it?? at least half of which was fully loaded two up touring.:thumb2
 
Any tyre is going to let go on a wet greasy road when you give them some abuse, unless they've developed some new magic property.

To quote the man at Avon, when speaking about modern road tyres in general:

You probably have as much grip in the wet, as you think you have in the dry.....
 
To quote the man at Avon, when speaking about modern road tyres in general:

You probably have as much grip in the wet, as you think you have in the dry.....


One of the superbike schools has a bike without riggers on it so you can experience skids and slides I think... Would be great to know what the limit is on your own bike. I don't really want to experience a tyre letting go on a normal road. I probably wouldn't react accordingly and would end up in a big mess at the side of the road.. Must be some sort of rig you can attach to your bike and give it a go.. Anyone got any stablizers I can borrow ??? :D:D:D
 
ordered a set of tourances

did a lot of reading on the trail attacks and great reviews but one comment kept cropping up which killed it as a winter tyre for me, the warm up times

use the GS in london for lots of short 2 to 4 miles journeys 5 to 10 times a day, I feel i should be a courier at times and tend to ride like one as well

hope its not the case for the tourance

OK at the risk of demonstrating that I'm not really God's gift to motorcycling.
How do tell that your tires haven't warmed up. Is my ar*e just not sufficiently sensitive to notice my tyre temperature?
 
One of the superbike schools has a bike without riggers on it so you can experience skids and slides I think... Would be great to know what the limit is on your own bike. I don't really want to experience a tyre letting go on a normal road. I probably wouldn't react accordingly and would end up in a big mess at the side of the road.. Must be some sort of rig you can attach to your bike and give it a go.. Anyone got any stablizers I can borrow ??? :D:D:D

I think the good man from Avon said it all.

You probably have as much grip in the wet, as you think you have in the dry.....

We think we know how much grip a modern tyre has in the dry..... The reality is they often have a lot more to give....

Thus, when it's wet, we probably have as much grip then as we think we have in the dry....

Ie. Any modern road tyres will outperform most of us, quite comfortably, wet or dry.
 
Avon employ a tyre man these days?
No wonder their products have improved of late then.:augie
 
Avon employ a tyre man these days?
No wonder their products have improved of late then.:augie

Yup, he looked a bit like this:

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just switched from metzler karoo T's to dunlop roadsmarts, but better grip wet or dry, much happier in the wet now, the karoo's used to slide/squirm quite a bit in the wet and have required me to dab a foot here and there, the dunlops are just planted solidly and never suggest they're going to let go.

In the dry though the karoo's were surprisingly good, and made me grin quite a lot at the looks on a few people's faces as this big old bike on knobblies disappeared in the distance.

No prowess on my part, but my god some people don't know how to ride round corners.
 


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