Never leave the key in when you leave the bike, people get bikes nicked out of locked garages so one parked with a key in must be a gift from heaven to thieves. (you got probs at 62?, just wait till you reach 67!!!)
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Never leave the key in when you leave the bike, people get bikes nicked out of locked garages so one parked with a key in must be a gift from heaven to thieves. (you got probs at 62?, just wait till you reach 67!!!)
Delboy777
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I once had a new Bandit 650, got off it to open a gate and it rolled forward off the sidestand and fell onto my leg 
i grabbed it and picked it up and had such a rush of adrenaline i pushed it too far and the fecker fell the other way as well 
i grabbed it and picked it up and had such a rush of adrenaline i pushed it too far and the fecker fell the other way as well 
morty
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I've got a couple of outriggers,i'll put pram wheels on it then it doesn't matter if you don't use either stand on the bike.mm could automate that and sell it on to old folk.
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Personally I think you should take it back to the dealer and demand that BMW do something about it. No way should this be able to happen and its just another instance of BMW build quality these days!!!! 
Glad other people have done it. 
It thought it was just 'normal for Norfolk!'
It thought it was just 'normal for Norfolk!'
trainman
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thanks for all the replies - glad to see i am not alone
i was actually impressed at how the bike handled it, full tank of fuel and not a drop spilt
maybe i need one of them new 3 wheel things (2 at the front/1 back)? starting to look appealing
cheers!!
i was actually impressed at how the bike handled it, full tank of fuel and not a drop spilt
maybe i need one of them new 3 wheel things (2 at the front/1 back)? starting to look appealing
cheers!!
Bendy toy
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I have never understood why bikes dont have side stands on both sides. With castors on the ends and cable operation they could effectively be retracts.
The usual narrow minded biking thing is to assume that means stabilisers/training wheels. But I'm talking about moving the situation beyond the Sopwith Camel and Fokker Triplane technology into Spitfire and ME109 territory. The latter had retracts but nobody says they have training wheels.
Bike design could benefit a great deal if the rider's feet did not have to reach the floor from the saddle. Adventure bikes could be tall for ground clearance and seeing over hedges. Sports bikes with high footpegs for ground-clearance could sit the rider higher so his/her legs are not so scrunched up. More comfort = more control for the rider so he can go even faster.
Its all about compromise, but this one seems to have more down-sides than necessary all dictated by fashion and narrow minded thinking.
The usual narrow minded biking thing is to assume that means stabilisers/training wheels. But I'm talking about moving the situation beyond the Sopwith Camel and Fokker Triplane technology into Spitfire and ME109 territory. The latter had retracts but nobody says they have training wheels.
Bike design could benefit a great deal if the rider's feet did not have to reach the floor from the saddle. Adventure bikes could be tall for ground clearance and seeing over hedges. Sports bikes with high footpegs for ground-clearance could sit the rider higher so his/her legs are not so scrunched up. More comfort = more control for the rider so he can go even faster.
Its all about compromise, but this one seems to have more down-sides than necessary all dictated by fashion and narrow minded thinking.
nope your not alone although I am probably more screwed up than you as I did it backwards!!!!
By that I mean the bike was on center stand and as I took it off the side stand was still down it, hit the top of my foot (I think I broke the damn thing, bloody hurt that much) then bounced back and fell over as I am now jumping up and down well hoping actualy.
And my two mates laughing fit to burst, fat bloody use they were, nobody has any fecking sympathy when your in pain !!!! however they did pick the bike up for me eventualy.
Similar thing
Off-road bike on sidestand to open gate, but uneven ground, so bike very upright (sidestand foot on higher ground than wheels)
Opened gate and jumped back on, but weight onto saddle lowered bike further, so sidestand levered/catapulted me & bike over to the right and into a heap
I think off-road riding "friends" laugh more at others' misfortunes. They point and hold their sides
Off-road bike on sidestand to open gate, but uneven ground, so bike very upright (sidestand foot on higher ground than wheels)
Opened gate and jumped back on, but weight onto saddle lowered bike further, so sidestand levered/catapulted me & bike over to the right and into a heap
I think off-road riding "friends" laugh more at others' misfortunes. They point and hold their sides
I've rode off on a GSA with the disc lock still on, now that is embarrassing as you come crashing down, especially when you cant comprehend why you have just fallen off, then suddenly it comes to you and you feel a right dick.
Also I fell off a Bandit 1200 whilst test riding it and all within 100 yards of the dealer. That too was extremely embarrassing, spent 3 weeks in hospital, but still bought the bike.
Its shit and it happens!
, now that is embarrassing as you come crashing down, especially when you cant comprehend why you have just fallen off, then suddenly it comes to you and you feel a right dick.Also I fell off a Bandit 1200 whilst test riding it and all within 100 yards of the dealer. That too was extremely embarrassing, spent 3 weeks in hospital, but still bought the bike.
Its shit and it happens!
a swiss guy was thinking something like it in the eighties
http://p4.focus.de/img/gen/4/c/HB4cVv7K_Pxgen_r_700xA.jpg
it's called the " oemil " .......have seen a few in action and they have little retracted wheels coming out below 5 mph ;;;; they do a new type now
http://peraves.wordpress.com/
Bendy toy
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Another Swiss bloke built BMW powered fully covered bikes that have electric retracts because you cant open the door to put your feet down.
I really fail to see why its such an emotive issue.
We fit crash bars, crash bungs, exhaust can shields, axle protectors etc and put with paint damage from car park goofs. Why not reduce some of the risk at the design stage AND improve the bike's usability. It wont stop the bike crashing at normal speed. It simply makes stopping in traffic and pushing the bike about a lot easier. Why is easier such a bad idea?
In every other respect the bike will be a proper bike with only one downside. When you get onto a "normal" easy drop version you'll probably drop it.
I really fail to see why its such an emotive issue.
We fit crash bars, crash bungs, exhaust can shields, axle protectors etc and put with paint damage from car park goofs. Why not reduce some of the risk at the design stage AND improve the bike's usability. It wont stop the bike crashing at normal speed. It simply makes stopping in traffic and pushing the bike about a lot easier. Why is easier such a bad idea?
In every other respect the bike will be a proper bike with only one downside. When you get onto a "normal" easy drop version you'll probably drop it.
trainman
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bizarre co incidence-i sat through Click on the BBC News channel yesterday, they had an electric bike from USA that has gyros and would not fall over even if pulled at with an SUV, I am saving up ($12000)
Bendy toy
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I saw that but it has a steering wheel so Im thinking it will drive like a car with electronics to do the counter steering once is doing more than about 7mph or whatever speed we swap from tiller steering to counter steering.
Prodrive (Banbury) have been working on a four wheel version for quite a few years. Its narrow like a bike to make more efficient use of road space and would fall over if it had normal car suspension. It has no need need for gyros and leans exactly like a bike and would work fine with 3 wheels like the Piaggio MP3. The car has a computer to deal with the steering/counter steering issue that most car drivers don't understand. Expect bikers to feel frustrated by it.
http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2007/03/30-naro-concept/
Due to lack of cash (read interest from the mainstream car industry), they tied up with universities so expect the project to stall. Academics are happy to do research but rarely fussed about speed to market.
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