Wow the price of a new fully kitted GSA !

They just need to do a road biased version of the AT now to cater for the GS riders like me who primarily use their bikes for touring - so smaller wheels, tubed tyres, etc. Or maybe a completely separate light tourer/all rounder type bike based on the AT - maybe with 1200cc version of the AT engine, low level exhaust allowing touring type luggage, and perhaps a bit more pillion space, though I have to say it still wouldn't interest me unless it had active suspension adjustment and auto-leveling as my current GS does.
 
They just need to do a road biased version of the AT now to cater for the GS riders like me who primarily use their bikes for touring - so smaller wheels, tubed tyres, etc. Or maybe a completely separate light tourer/all rounder type bike based on the AT - maybe with 1200cc version of the AT engine, low level exhaust allowing touring type luggage, and perhaps a bit more pillion space, though I have to say it still wouldn't interest me unless it had active suspension adjustment and auto-leveling as my current GS does.

Sounds like you are describing a Cross tourer.
 
Sounds like you are describing a Cross tourer.

Nah - tried one of those! Nice engine, but too top heavy and too heavy overall, complex V4 which leads to expensive servicing, and not very sophisticated chassis or electronics. The DCT model I tried had horrible transmission shunt, so was a nightmare in traffic, which I believe is a known issue affecting some but not all of these bikes.
 
PCP deal 3 years you decide to change to another bike after 18mths do you pay the outstanding balance so could move or sell the bike private, or if you are unlucky enough for health reasons cannot use or afford the repayments on a pcp deal,
unless you pay 50% then you can hand it back, is a pcp deal as good as it seems, or is that not how it works !!!!
 
PCP deal 3 years you decide to change to another bike after 18mths do you pay the outstanding balance so could move or sell the bike private, or if you are unlucky enough for health reasons cannot use or afford the repayments on a pcp deal,
unless you pay 50% then you can hand it back, is a pcp deal as good as it seems, or is that not how it works !!!!

No, that's not how it works. What you are describing is the mathematics of a personal loan that you might take out for a bike, rather than PCP.

With personal loans, each month you pay back a fixed amount consisting of capital repayment and interest payment in unchanging parts. After 18 mths into a 3 year finance arrangement, you will have paid off 50% of the capital. If at that time you choose to settle by paying off the additional 50% of the capital then (small additional early settlement fee aside), you've no more interest to pay.

Of course, under this arrangement, there's no option to 'hand the bike back', though you could settle and then look to sell the bike.

PCP works differently. It works like a mortgage arrangement. In order to reduce your monthly outgoings, the finance is structured such that repayments earlier in the loan period go against the interest calculated on the remaining unpaid capital, more than paying down the capital.

Your later repayments are largely made up of payments against capital, so that the monthly amount owed for interest is reduced. This means that as time passes, you more quickly build up equity in (and pay down debt on) your bike.

As the earlier payments go more against interest accumulated on the capital than paying down the capital, at 18 mths you will not have paid 50% of the capital owing on your bike. Any finance you take out to purchase the bike will need to reflect this. And were you to look to hand in your bike within the first 6 mths or so, you’d actually have to hand over the dealer cash as well as the bike, since so little of the accumulated interest will have been paid off.

The actual percentage of outstanding finance on the bike at any one time depends on three variables: the deposit you are required to make (or choose, if making a higher deposit), the APR, and the Guaranteed Future Value of the bike.
 
I was getting my GSA serviced today and say a new Ralley GSA in white, blue frame TFT screen full luggage every toy ticked including SOS tinted screen and it was £21500 :eek: Ok it was fully loaded but my word that's a lot is it not ? 21 grand ! Anyone bought one at that price yet ?

Dealers will always discount these bikes. Here’s one dealer doing the same bike for nearly £3k less.....

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showth...(2)-pre-reg-R1200GSA-Rallyee-and-Triple-black
 
I was getting my GSA serviced today and say a new Ralley GSA in white, blue frame TFT screen full luggage every toy ticked including SOS tinted screen and it was £21500 :eek: Ok it was fully loaded but my word that's a lot is it not ? 21 grand ! Anyone bought one at that price yet ?

Biggest kept secret F800GS Trophy
0-60mph in 3.8 seconds
Top speed over 120mph
74mpg
Seat height 880 and less
Do you mostly ride without a pillion.
I have been riding GS's for 14 years and I am now on my second F800GS.

So much fun with all the gismo's and Enduro + too
Look at the price of a 17 plate.

I have picked up a beautiful bike for silly money.
Think again
 
Well that is not even a current model, and doesn't have the Euro 4 reflectors, so must be pre-Sept 2016 which also means that it doesn't have the improved gearbox. Probably should read £12881, but still expensive even at that!
 


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