Yes or no. Scottish residents only please
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Den, it was only a few post ago that you posted that video of some old git who seems driven to vote yes because he love to see the bit of the union without Scotland take a tumble. Where does that fit into the two distinct types of views that you're seeing?
To me it's beginning to look as though the YES campaign is acting like a rat stuck in a room running back and forth along the skirting board making u turn after u turn desperate to get out of situation that it's screwed up through its own arrogance. If it's lucky it might find a hole to crawl in but it looks more likely that it's going to get twatted by a dirty great shovel
And the subject of Land Reform never came into your head when making your decision Gerry. You were just thinking of the poor barstaff in Blair being deluded into thinking it might get better for them.
You see, you have more reason to vote NO than the people who I was speaking about.
What is it .... 0.025 of the population owning 67% of the land in Scotland? I can just imagine the conversations amongst the tweed-clad set. Be honest Gerry. How many have dreamed about finding Wee Eck wandering across a grouse moor in August ?
Whose "real world" would that be then? There is no one "real world". Do you think the "real world" of somebody who lives on a hunting estate in the Highlands is the same as the "real world" of somebody in Clydebank who has to visit the food bank every week? Very little was ever achieved in the world by people of limited vision who were comfortable enough to settle for the status quo. Like any Conservative idea, it's the politics of selfish self-interest - all the "I'm alright Jack" merchants who don't give a flying fuck about anyone else.
The real world, the one I inhabit, is one where we need to worry about paying the bills, rather than being suuckered into falling for the crap in the white paper, which purported, but failed, to show how we...the scottish people..can afford to do that. Which explains why Dens examples are no's...like the majority
Some nasty stereotyping and prejudice welling up in the last few posts....you be careful boys, wouldn't want people to think it was all about chips on shoulders....must be more to it than that....surely...???
Mr K
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...and you best remember, regardless of the result you have to abide by it and carry on living together.
Even if we lose, we have been bold enough to attempt real change. Britain IS slipping down the hill and its population is just letting it slide. They point at the slide, and say 'someone should do something about that'
It is very well documented that the well planned and executed gap between rich and poor is being made bigger and bigger year by year, and what are you doing about it?
NOTHING, FUCK-ALL, ZILCH.
The most ... the only thing you can do is vote Labour in again, and the merry-go-round starts up again. Of course, you now have Mr Farage who will lead you into a far riskier future than the Scots could ever dream-up.
What are we risking? Going down the pan? Maybe we will if we win. But we will hang about down there waiting for the flush which brings you down behind us.
I think it is fear. Its you who fear the future. You are afraid that we just might succeed, because you know that beneath the veneer, beneath the UK fur coat ... there are no knickers, and its not going to get any better.
At least we are trying to change things. No-one has tried to change things for hundreds of years, and no-one will try it again for decades at least. The 'leaders' of the UK know this and can fuck us up the arse as hard as they want, because they have a mandate from you to do so.
Thee population of the uk is impotent ... but as long as the middle classes 'think' they are ok, they always will be. Until it is your turn to feel the cuts,and the negative equity bites you in .... yes ... that very arse again.
We have not lost yet. I dearly hope we dont, but if we do, at least we tried, and I for one will be proud that we did.
Very few Scots will ever vote again if we lose, because the former 'yes' voters will see no reason to do so. The NO voters seem happy with the status quo, so whats the point in them voting. So you will have the country to your yourselves. We never did have any influence on your decisions.... did we.
Rubbish.
If you were bold enough to attempt real change you would have said we want to be a proper independent country with our own currency, instead of using the currency of a different nation without their agreement.
I dont see Britain is sliding down the hill at all...it seems to be doing rather well. This will continue unless a return to labour lunacy wrecks the recovery.
The rest is just a bitter rant
If you were bold enough to attempt real change you would have said we want to be a proper independent country with our own currency, instead of using the currency of a different nation without their agreement.
I dont see Britain is sliding down the hill at all...it seems to be doing rather well. This will continue unless a return to labour lunacy wrecks the recovery.
The rest is just a bitter rant
....when the boldness wains and the arguments become based on what others are it suggests the sound arguments have been found wanting.
They say you can judge a person or augment by what they/it acuses others of - Britain sliding down hill? I don't think and history shows we are good at adapting and winning, just look at our global leadership in F1, a great niche example of what we as a nation can achieve.
They say you can judge a person or augment by what they/it acuses others of - Britain sliding down hill? I don't think and history shows we are good at adapting and winning, just look at our global leadership in F1, a great niche example of what we as a nation can achieve.
Is that doing well as in; no wage rises for a few years, zero hour contracts, semi privatised NHS, food banks, and not just in Scotland. GB may be doing well for some. But they don't seem to be taking many with them.
That's a very bitter post. " I did not intend it to be read by none residents" fuck me what are you lot voting for up there ? Apartheid or what ??
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this forum based in England ?
You've created a very nasty taste with all this independence huffing and puffing. While its very clear where you hold the English in your thoughts, you may wish to consider you will still have to live with your countrymen, and yes even those with an opinion that differs from your own.
It's in yours and your fellow country men's hands...... Just all vote YES and get on with it and give us all a break then.
Delboy777
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Dens post came across to me as very tongue in cheek with just a hint of sarcasm TBH
It came across that way to me also
. That's why I replied with a tongue in cheek quip .
Like the rest of the thread has been tongue in cheek ?
Nah that's a good old fashioned north of the boarder winge and moan. Even though they've got the vote they're still not fecking happy!
My retirement plan was to settle in Scotland. Less than 2 years to go, but the referendum has posed a few stumbling blocks.
I think Scottish property prices are in limbo until the decision is made by the people of Scotland. That may well price me out of the market in 2016.
Yes or No didn't matter to me, I still planned to go if they'd have me.
The politicians on either side are still better than what I have to endure here in Northern Ireland.
I don't have a say, nor do I want one.
Who would I say was in the lead if asked yesterday?
The No vote,
but after watching the debate tonight between Darling and Salmond.....
I think Alex has won hands down.
The recent wars in this world are all about OIL....
America and UK would never have stuck their noses in the problems of the Middle East but for it.
Scotland has lots of OIL and it's the only reason England doesn't want to let Scotland go.
If Northern Ireland had a referendum I don't think they'd be fighting it at all!
I know I'm not allowed an opinion on this thread. But my Step Dad's Scottish and I have strong ties to the place
What's the outcome gonna be?
Don't know, but I think the Yes camp's stronger after tonight's debate.
I think Scottish property prices are in limbo until the decision is made by the people of Scotland. That may well price me out of the market in 2016.
Yes or No didn't matter to me, I still planned to go if they'd have me.
The politicians on either side are still better than what I have to endure here in Northern Ireland.
I don't have a say, nor do I want one.
Who would I say was in the lead if asked yesterday?
The No vote,
but after watching the debate tonight between Darling and Salmond.....
I think Alex has won hands down.
The recent wars in this world are all about OIL....
America and UK would never have stuck their noses in the problems of the Middle East but for it.
Scotland has lots of OIL and it's the only reason England doesn't want to let Scotland go.
If Northern Ireland had a referendum I don't think they'd be fighting it at all!
I know I'm not allowed an opinion on this thread. But my Step Dad's Scottish and I have strong ties to the place
What's the outcome gonna be?
Don't know, but I think the Yes camp's stronger after tonight's debate.
KAYCEE
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Looks like Alex wiped the floor with Darling tonight. Where we're the NO folk in the audience?
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