Byways on OS Explorer Map 144 - Basingstoke, Alton & Whitchurch

Clive it looks like you put a lot of effort into that...I hope people appreciate the time it took

sperd said:

If I click on the picture it says that the page cannot be found...
How can I get the waypoints?

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I host the photos on Zoomr - they have moved to a new "version" several weeks ago and have hit various problems. The Photos still appear in the posts on this thread but everything else (i.e. the clicking, upload, editing of them etc) is a bit fecked at present

The Waypoints are available as a Mapsource file on this post

If you don't have Mapsource then just look at the title of the Photo on a post which I have labelled as the OS Grid Reference.

TUNED IN said:

Clive it looks like you put a lot of effort into that...I hope people appreciate the time it took

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Yes, it does take a surprising amount of time to study the OS maps, find the lanes, ride and photo/document them etc but it gets me out in the open air from time to time, so I enjoy it

Hopefully others find the info useful and it may encourage a few others to get their GS out in the dirty bits

I'm planning a "Waypoint Treasure Hunt" based around the lanes on OS Explorer 144 map in the not too distant future

Clive said:

Hopefully others find the info useful and it may encourage a few others to get their GS out in the dirty bits

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Thanks to you Clive, I've been inspired & bought the 144 map.
I don't have GPS or any of that gubbins, so I'm going to have to try and work out all the routes you've done and plot them on the map with the help of my daughters coulouring pencils.

Clive said:

I'm planning a "Waypoint Treasure Hunt" based around the lanes on OS Explorer 144 map in the not too distant future

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Sounds like a great idea

MOTÖRHEAD said:

I don't have GPS or any of that gubbins, so I'm going to have to try and work out all the routes you've done and plot them on the map with the help of my daughters coulouring pencils.

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Well, the textual versions of the latest waypoint file are...

SU 41071 59243
SU 42099 58092
SU 42091 58136
SU 43095 57480
SU 43008 57508
SU 44638 55955
SU 46195 55132
SU 46141 59192
SU 46478 59723
SU 46873 58180
SU 46893 59310
SU 47594 59288
SU 48546 50579
SU 48975 50924
SU 49133 50325
SU 50118 52646
SU 50993 50310
SU 51375 51748
SU 51407 51725
SU 51589 51792
SU 51599 56523
SU 52027 50983
SU 52597 51165
SU 52508 55669
SU 52675 50698
SU 52787 51848
SU 53602 52029
SU 54900 49659
SU 55191 52804
SU 56578 54484
SU 56699 48987
SU 57396 53980
SU 57460 53949
SU 58169 38497
SU 58888 53963
SU 58911 53969
SU 59248 43712
SU 59311 42299
SU 59493 38813
SU 59412 38784
SU 59485 42428
SU 59735 53950
SU 59807 54000
SU 59974 41621
SU 60683 53686
SU 61512 40428
SU 61532 40476
SU 62041 41390
SU 62405 46897
SU 62438 47574
SU 62757 41986
SU 63615 41495
SU 63670 48572
SU 63750 39662
SU 63866 40370
SU 64001 38775
SU 64003 39523
SU 64132 39795
SU 64238 44004
SU 64515 40706
SU 64573 45216
SU 64597 46074
SU 64508 48045
SU 64632 39130
SU 64647 39154
SU 64662 45315
SU 64779 40951
SU 64780 40968
SU 64849 40080
SU 64891 40224
SU 64818 40906
SU 64801 40982
SU 64878 40998
SU 64944 46072
SU 65325 47772
SU 65497 41534
SU 65570 38467
SU 65545 48002
SU 65704 44634
SU 66149 39007
SU 66255 38279
SU 66270 38264
SU 66208 45830
SU 66436 39951
SU 66829 40655
SU 66975 37550
SU 67252 48573
SU 67626 38490
SU 67962 52164
SU 68185 50047
SU 68159 52712
SU 68379 41031
SU 68381 47011
SU 68575 46491
SU 68633 48724
SU 69300 50723
SU 69478 50245
SU 69426 53147
SU 69554 50154
SU 69570 50285
SU 69695 50183
SU 69739 42029
SU 69707 50254
SU 69945 53268
SU 70136 40518
SU 70287 42385
SU 70492 49926
SU 70548 39401
SU 70552 49914
SU 70578 52036
SU 70808 42460
SU 70909 45395
SU 70913 45394
SU 71025 44317
SU 71070 52582
SU 71149 45698
SU 71139 45701
SU 71163 49770
SU 71274 42384
SU 71245 50928
SU 71419 42396
SU 71479 55525
SU 71614 45740
SU 71648 45744
SU 71899 46706
SU 71870 56036
SU 71892 59304
SU 71970 43284
SU 71999 44012
SU 71989 45429
SU 72046 58548
SU 72120 43499
SU 72257 44286
SU 74205 45485
SU 74380 50370
SU 74764 55312
SU 75140 54911
SU 75475 54470
SU 76074 46413
SU 76557 44492
SU 76891 45793
SU 77336 50000
SU 77523 49593
SU 78968 50594
SU 79274 51184

and the routes...

Start/End Length Direction
SU410592 to SU420581 0.9 mi 138° true
SU420580 to SU430575 0.7 mi 123° true
SU430574 to SU461551 2.4 mi 128° true
SU461591 to SU475592 0.9 mi 87° true
SU464597 to SU468581 1.1 mi 166° true
SU485505 to SU491503 0.7 mi 114° true
SU491503 to SU513517 1.6 mi 58° true
SU501526 to SU509503 1.6 mi 160° true
SU514517 to SU527518 0.9 mi 85° true
SU515565 to SU525556 0.8 mi 134° true
SU520509 to SU515517 0.6 mi 332° true
SU525511 to SU526506 0.3 mi 171° true
SU536520 to SU551528 1.1 mi 65° true
SU549496 to SU566489 1.2 mi 111° true
SU565544 to SU573539 0.6 mi 122° true
SU574539 to SU588539 0.9 mi 90° true
SU581384 to SU594387 0.8 mi 78° true
SU589539 to SU597539 0.5 mi 92° true
SU592437 to SU599416 1.6 mi 162° true
SU594338 to SU615404 1.6 mi 52° true
SU598540 to SU606536 0.6 mi 111° true
SU615405 to SU627419 1.2 mi 40° true
SU624468 to SU624475 0.4 mi 3° true
SU636414 to SU647409 0.8 mi 115° true
SU640395 to SU646391 0.5 mi 121° true
SU641397 to SU637396 0.3 mi 251° true
SU642440 to SU645452 0.8 mi 16° true
SU645460 to SU653477 1.1 mi 24° true
SU645480 to SU636485 0.6 mi 303° true
SU646390 to SU640387 0.4 mi 241° true
SU646453 to SU649460 0.5 mi 21° true
SU647408 to SU638403 0.7 mi 238° true
SU648402 to SU648408 0.4 mi 355° true
SU648409 to SU654415 0.6 mi 52° true
SU655384 to SU648400 1.3 mi 337° true
SU661390 to SU662382 0.5 mi 172° true
SU662383 to SU669375 0.6 mi 136° true
SU662458 to SU657446 0.8 mi 204° true
SU668406 to SU683410 1.0 mi 77° true
SU672485 to SU655480 1.1 mi 252° true
SU676384 to SU664399 1.2 mi 322° true
SU681527 to SU679521 0.4 mi 200° true
SU683470 to SU685464 0.3 mi 160° true
SU694502 to SU681500 0.8 mi 262° true
SU695501 to SU686487 1.1 mi 213° true
SU695502 to SU693507 0.3 mi 329° true
SU697502 to SU712509 1.0 mi 67° true
SU699532 to SU694531 0.3 mi 258° true
SU701405 to SU705394 0.7 mi 161° true
SU702423 to SU697420 0.4 mi 238° true
SU704499 to SU696501 0.5 mi 289° true
SU705520 to SU710525 0.5 mi 43° true
SU709454 to SU711457 0.2 mi 37° true
SU710443 to SU709453 0.7 mi 355° true
SU711456 to SU716457 0.3 mi 86° true
SU711457 to SU718467 0.8 mi 38° true
SU711497 to SU705499 0.4 mi 284° true
SU712423 to SU708424 0.3 mi 280° true
SU714555 to SU718560 0.4 mi 38° true
SU716458 to SU719454 0.3 mi 134° true
SU718593 to SU720585 0.5 mi 169° true
SU719432 to SU714423 0.6 mi 213° true
SU719440 to SU721434 0.3 mi 168° true
SU722442 to SU719440 0.2 mi 224° true
SU747553 to SU754544 0.7 mi 141° true
SU760464 to SU742454 1.3 mi 244° true
SU765444 to SU768457 0.8 mi 15° true
SU773500 to SU775495 0.3 mi 156° true
SU789505 to SU792511 0.4 mi 28° true

Clive said:

Well, the textual versions of the latest waypoint file are...

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I'm going to show myself up here, big time

The only way I know how to use any map is to use the numbers down each side of the map. I find number 71 along the bottom & follow it up until it reaches the side number 40 & then I know I'm in Alton.

Shall I get my dunce hat on now

So how do I use these figures with just the map?

Sorry to be so dense.

(I can hear the rest of the forum laughing & taking the piss as they read this)

MOTÖRHEAD said:

So how do I use these figures with just the map?

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Take a look at this which will guide you to this PDF file which will hopefully explain it.

Unless you have a very small ruler only the first 3 numbers of each set of 5 numbers of the waypoints above are useful on a paper map

e.g.
SU 41071 59243 => SU 410 592

SU 41071

The SU bit gets you to an area 100km by 100km

The 41 bit gets you to an area 1km by 1km

The 071 bit gets you to an area 1metre by 1 metre i.e. 71 metres to the right of where easting grid box 41 starts IYSWIM

Mapsource works down to this level of accuracy but the GPS isn't accurate to that level anyway

Clive said:

Take a look at this which will guide you to this PDF file which will hopefully explain it.

Unless you have a very small ruler only the first 3 numbers of each set of 5 numbers of the waypoints above are useful on a paper map

e.g.
SU 41071 59243 => SU 410 592

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Cool!
So I was on the case in the first place but didn't realise that some of the numbers help divide the initial squares for greater accuracy.
Now I also understand the significance of 'SU'

Many thanks for clearing the waters

What I use is a Post-it note sized square of paper marked (by using the grid 10ths lines along the bottom and sides of the map) with (what becomes) 0,0 in the top right hand corner of the paper square and labelled left to right with 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 and bottom to top with 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 - then use the 0,0 corner to point at a place on the map - it is then easy to read off the "10th" i.e. the 3rd digit of each group of 3 digits.

Clive said:

What I use is a Post-it note sized square of paper marked (by using the grid 10ths lines along the bottom and sides of the map) with (what becomes) 0,0 in the top right hand corner of the paper square and labelled left to right with 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 and bottom to top with 9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 - then use the 0,0 corner to point at a place on the map - it is then easy to read off the "10th" i.e. the 3rd digit of each group of 3 digits.

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Nice tip.
I can see an evening of spreading the map over the dining room table and working my way though your list.

If it wasn't for your time and effort, I would't have known about all these lanes that are, as near as damn it, in my back garden.

Clive

You are rightly getting a lot of thanks and support for the work you've done. I've found lanes that I must have ridden past 100 times without realising they were byways - a whole new world is opening up.

We won't mention the puddle I dropped it in near five lanes end, and the fact that the wife had to hose me down afterward though OK? And no,no pictures available of my hosing the wife down....

Thanks again. I definitely owe you a pint.

Markie

SU673593 to SU665592

A short UCR, slightly overgrown but fairly easy.

SU673593
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433931/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433931_20c13413b5_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU673593" /></a>

SU665592
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433932/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433932_2d4449f268_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU665592" /></a>

SU608559 to SU609554

A fairly short byway leading to another byway.
Very overgrown and narrow in places.
Probably not for the novice and very difficult for a 4x4

SU608559
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433933/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433933_c077ab55ad_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU608559" /></a>

SU609554
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433934/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433934_742edfc73d_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU609554" /></a>

SU607554 to SU615550

First few hundred yards are ok, then becomes rutted and soft going.
OS map shows it as Byway from SU607554 for about 1/2 its length then becoming a RUPP.
Byway signs present from SU607554 end but no obvious "Restricted Byway" signs seen - at the other end is a wooden "Right of Way" signpost, so exact legal status unknown

SU607554
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433935/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433935_a3ec87a495_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU607554" /></a>

Becomes fairly deeply rutted on both sides with a slippy (after recent rain) middle section around SU614550
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433938/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433938_2c92984305_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU614550" /></a>

SU615550 - shown as "Right of Way" this end but might actually be a Restricted Byway
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433972/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433972_e799a29846_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU615550" /></a>

SU582543 to SU581538

SU582543
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433973/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433973_b4a62428b0_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU582543" /></a>

SU581538
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433974/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433974_f6a1068ce9_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU581538" /></a>

SU588541 to SU588548

Fairly easy going - part way along becomes concrete with grassy middle strip.

SU588541
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433977/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433977_b20c7ba0a9_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU588541" /></a>

SU588548
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433979/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433979_51473c633f_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU588548" /></a>

SU588550 to SU590561

Start off as a wide ruts dirt track

SU588550
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2433982/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2433982_6f6f56f7ee_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU588550" /></a>

which becomes more rutted and slippy when wet, watch out for large brambles catching on and twisting the handlebars
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2434029/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2434029_2af07171bf_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU588552" /></a>

leads to a tricky (when wet) downhill section through the trees, some flint, stones, tree roots and some sections of slight washout.
One of my favourite places for a break.
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2434031/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2434031_14d2edcc3b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU589554" /></a>

Out of the woods, both sides of the track are firm, but overgrown at this time of year - the grassy middle section is flat(ish) but slippy in places.
SU590561
<a href="http://www.zooomr.com/photos/clive/2434033/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.zooomr.com/images/2434033_ed83113fad_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="SU590561" /></a>

Waypoints/tracks so far.

sperd said:

If I click on the picture it says that the page cannot be found...

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Zooomr seem to have fixed this now.