Hi all you Guzzi loving Tossers.
There has been quite a bit of talk about the deals available on The Guzzi V85TT, so just thought I would share my research into prices when looking to source one myself.
There are some great deals around at the moment. Some dealers are telling me that the last stocks of Euro 4 have to be registered this year and that Guzzi are giving them additonal monies to tempt customers. A couple of other dealers have told me this is complete rubbish, so not sure who to believe. Several dealers tell me they have cleared all their Euro 4 bikes and cannot get more stock until Feb/March next year others say it will be a few weeks until Euro 5 models arrive. There are some dealers who say they have reached target and have no need to discount bikes very far, almost arrogant in doing me a favour by knocking a few hundred off. I told them very clearly lets say, that once mid December arrives and they still have stock they will have no option or sell as pre-registered bikes.
Colchester Kawasaki told me that they have bought all the stock available from the UK importers that they are selling as pre-registered units, but if I wanted an unregistered one so that I was the first keeper, it would be an additonal £400-500.
With this in mind, all UK stock now sits with dealers only, there is no central stock on which they can draw if they sell a bike. If your preferred dealer does not have one, you will have to move onto another dealer, unless one does the other a favour and transfers the bike, but this will incur costs so probably won't be as keen a deal.
The list price for the premium colour bikes is £11099, some dealers will add road tax and DVLA registration fee to this, so even a variance on what dealers tell you the list price on the road may be.
I spoke to most of the dealers within a couple of hundered miles of me and for those prepared to do a keen deal new unregistered bikes can be had for £9300 to 9500 on the road with no extra charges (unlike the Colchester pre-preg bikes which have road tax and reg fee in additon). I am told this is cost price and selling for less would loose them money, but I guess some sort of payment form Aprillia Uk may offset that, or they are looking at the costs of being stuck with several pre-reg bikes at a later date and are cutting their losses.
I managed to shave some more off these prices to secure a deal yesterday, made a take it or leave it offer which was accepted, but with some muttering on how they have to make a living and how much the deal was losing them- oh shame.
I know it is not all about price, but to some it is. There will be those who feel that franchises doing these kind of deals may not be sustainable, or provide as good aftersales service which I completely understand. For example, a dealer with a great reputation, Teasdales provide fantastic service, but you pay for it in the price of the bike and some will feel this is worth a few hundred quid extra and could even save a bit in the longer run via loyalty incentives etc.
The above relates to a purchase without part exchange which will of course mean the figures look different, but I guess the difference to change is the key.
Bear in mind, the Moto Guzzi dealer list on their Website is out of date, some dealers I spoke to had not had the franchise for over a year.
If anyone wants to know which dealers were prepared to negotiate heavily and offered what price,
I would be happy to let you know via PM rather than publically.
Hope this saves time and effort for those looking to buy one of these great machines.
Happy hunting..
There has been quite a bit of talk about the deals available on The Guzzi V85TT, so just thought I would share my research into prices when looking to source one myself.
There are some great deals around at the moment. Some dealers are telling me that the last stocks of Euro 4 have to be registered this year and that Guzzi are giving them additonal monies to tempt customers. A couple of other dealers have told me this is complete rubbish, so not sure who to believe. Several dealers tell me they have cleared all their Euro 4 bikes and cannot get more stock until Feb/March next year others say it will be a few weeks until Euro 5 models arrive. There are some dealers who say they have reached target and have no need to discount bikes very far, almost arrogant in doing me a favour by knocking a few hundred off. I told them very clearly lets say, that once mid December arrives and they still have stock they will have no option or sell as pre-registered bikes.
Colchester Kawasaki told me that they have bought all the stock available from the UK importers that they are selling as pre-registered units, but if I wanted an unregistered one so that I was the first keeper, it would be an additonal £400-500.
With this in mind, all UK stock now sits with dealers only, there is no central stock on which they can draw if they sell a bike. If your preferred dealer does not have one, you will have to move onto another dealer, unless one does the other a favour and transfers the bike, but this will incur costs so probably won't be as keen a deal.
The list price for the premium colour bikes is £11099, some dealers will add road tax and DVLA registration fee to this, so even a variance on what dealers tell you the list price on the road may be.
I spoke to most of the dealers within a couple of hundered miles of me and for those prepared to do a keen deal new unregistered bikes can be had for £9300 to 9500 on the road with no extra charges (unlike the Colchester pre-preg bikes which have road tax and reg fee in additon). I am told this is cost price and selling for less would loose them money, but I guess some sort of payment form Aprillia Uk may offset that, or they are looking at the costs of being stuck with several pre-reg bikes at a later date and are cutting their losses.
I managed to shave some more off these prices to secure a deal yesterday, made a take it or leave it offer which was accepted, but with some muttering on how they have to make a living and how much the deal was losing them- oh shame.
I know it is not all about price, but to some it is. There will be those who feel that franchises doing these kind of deals may not be sustainable, or provide as good aftersales service which I completely understand. For example, a dealer with a great reputation, Teasdales provide fantastic service, but you pay for it in the price of the bike and some will feel this is worth a few hundred quid extra and could even save a bit in the longer run via loyalty incentives etc.
The above relates to a purchase without part exchange which will of course mean the figures look different, but I guess the difference to change is the key.
Bear in mind, the Moto Guzzi dealer list on their Website is out of date, some dealers I spoke to had not had the franchise for over a year.
If anyone wants to know which dealers were prepared to negotiate heavily and offered what price,
I would be happy to let you know via PM rather than publically.
Hope this saves time and effort for those looking to buy one of these great machines.
Happy hunting..