Broken GS12!!

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Well my GS12 is now 1 month old with 2000 miles on the clock. My mate turns up today for a ride out, ignition on engine turns over but wont start!! All the obvious things checked it looks like the fuel pump isn't priming( the usual whining noise on turning the key is absent).
I ring BMW Emergency number they send out a "technician" in a car who's first words to me are " i don't know anything about the bikes just the cars!!". I manage to keep my cool and not reply with "so what the f**k are you doing here then!!"
I then wait another hour for the bike to be relayed back to my dealer. This is my first BMW and i'm not impressed.....My last new bike a Honda, not a problem in three years...
Guess i've just been unlucky...? If the bike wasn't so bloody brilliant to ride i'd be considering something else!!
Anyone else had this problem?
 
As the engine would turn over on the starter it wasn't immobilised.
My dealer has identified the problem first thing this morning...It,s an engine management problem. They say i should get the bike back in the next couple of days. This has reinstalled my faith in the whole BMW thing.......Excellent dealer responce.
I suppose with any new vehicle you'll get the odd teething troubles.
Looking forward to getting my bike back!!
 
Broken GS12 thankfully better now......

Phil

Good to here it's sorted.........but please guy's can we not start a new thread for every single little niggle/teething problem with the bike...... :)

I think it's starting to seep into my sub-conciousness, last night i dreamt that i was riding the bike and it suddenly lost all power and came to a stuttering halt (honestly.....)
Woke up in a cold sweat wandering if it was really a dream and would i/could i get away without not posting about on this site...;) particularly after all the lavish praise i've heaped on the thing defending it to the hilt with other biking mates and some of the people on this site......(the tossers ;))

Cheers!! :beerjug:
 
Tricky said:
Broken GS12 thankfully better now......

Phil

Good to here it's sorted.........but please guy's can we not start a new thread for every single little niggle/teething problem with the bike...... :)

Cheers!! :beerjug:
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Good idea, although I am a 1150 rider I know that eventually I will need to retire my steed for new blood. Hopefully by then some confidence will be restored in the brand model.
 
Tricky said:
Broken GS12 thankfully better now......

Phil

Good to here it's sorted.........but please guy's can we not start a new thread for every single little niggle/teething problem with the bike...... :)

I think it's starting to seep into my sub-conciousness, last night i dreamt that i was riding the bike and it suddenly lost all power and came to a stuttering halt (honestly.....)
Woke up in a cold sweat wandering if it was really a dream and would i/could i get away without not posting about on this site...;) particularly after all the lavish praise i've heaped on the thing defending it to the hilt with other biking mates and some of the people on this site......(the tossers ;))

Cheers!! :beerjug:
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Sorry Tricky I don't agree! I think these problems need to be reported.

My previous two bikes have been Yamaha and Honda and I had no problems on these bikes at all, however my new GS12 has an intermiitent fault with the ABS (still not found yet!) and now there is play in the rear wheel!

BMW bikes are generally more expensive and I expected much better build quality. If these points aren't "aired" they will never be improved. I like the GS but if Honda made a similar bike I would choose it over BMW at the moment.

Ian
 
Ian

I take your point and good luck with getting your bike fixed.....:)
Just feel that some of the minor problems reported on here (at regular intervals) do not reflect the overall satisfaction that i think most of us have with the bike...just my opinion of cause!
 
I work as an mot tester & when a jap bike is used all year round as are most BMW bikes they soon turn to crap be it honda yam or any of the big 4 + not many bikes are pushing advanced ideas like the bms sws electrics/ servo abs /paraleaver systems etc. i rember the panic when cars started to have engine management systems & the first over head cams in cortinas & the like
 
I work as an mot tester & when a jap bike is used all year round as are most BMW bikes they soon turn to crap be it honda yam or any of the big 4 + not many bikes are pushing advanced ideas like the bms sws electrics/ servo abs /paraleaver systems etc. i rember the panic when cars started to have engine management systems & the first over head cams in cortinas & the like
 
Ian
Dont get me wrong i've hankered after a GS since the first paralever came out in 94. After test riding the GS12 i part exed my VTR 1000 there and then!!
I think the bike is brilliant in every area. However i do feel that not been able to start the bike at all and requiring recovery back to my dealer and needing a new engine management part constitutes to more than a "minor" problem. And to me is worth reporting on this site.
Regarding the comment by another site user, that if jap bikes are used all the time like BM,s they fall apart, i have to strongly disagree!! My Honda Africa Twin did 110,000 despatch miles with me when i used to be a London courier a few years back. The bike never broke down and was utterly reliable. In fact thats where my love of "big trailies" came from. The GS12 is the ultimate of course!!
 
Some well looked after bikes will still look good i am on about the % of bikes i get in for mot most are very poor on paint & worn linkages & i had a 1999 vtr 1000 cam chain tensioner went & jumped bending valves @ 2000 mile + all the early trail bike hondas with same engine as the vtr had the engine replaced due to soft cam drive sprocket on cranks .its just i get to see a lot of bikes in bits, scooter rot like mad under the plastic but the owners usualy never see it . i showed one owner she had a fit it was 11 months old
 
Phil W said:
Ian
Dont get me wrong i've hankered after a GS since the first paralever came out in 94. After test riding the GS12 i part exed my VTR 1000 there and then!!
I think the bike is brilliant in every area. However i do feel that not been able to start the bike at all and requiring recovery back to my dealer and needing a new engine management part constitutes to more than a "minor" problem. And to me is worth reporting on this site.
Regarding the comment by another site user, that if jap bikes are used all the time like BM,s they fall apart, i have to strongly disagree!! My Honda Africa Twin did 110,000 despatch miles with me when i used to be a London courier a few years back. The bike never broke down and was utterly reliable. In fact thats where my love of "big trailies" came from. The GS12 is the ultimate of course!!
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Phil I think you've got the wrong person! I was actually trying to agree with you as I think these problems should be voiced.

I also disagree with the comments on Honda. I had a VTEC, all new technology for 2.5 years, used it ALL year round covering 31000miles and didn't have any problems at all. My GS is 3months old it hasn't seen winter yet and I have problems with the ABS electronics (intermittent which hasn't been found yet!) and now play in the rear wheel bearings.

Ian
 
Our Year old R12GS (The Wife's) failed last week engine spins no problem but does not even sound as if it was going to fire.

Battery was good as it was relpaced about a month ago. after it had been in several times and them saying there was no problem

This time it was the Power Unit for the Fuel Pump that failed. Not 100% convinced on the total reliability.

:(
 
This time it was the Power Unit for the Fuel Pump that failed

Had your dealer done the recall for this? This was a well known issue on early 1200s.

Paul
 
Well my GS still isn't fixed!!
Spoke to Jefferies today and they said the part they had replaced hadn't solved the problem.
They have now ordered another part and my wait continues. Apparently they haven't come across this problem before( some engine management part).
They did offer me a courtesy bike though, and promised to sort it as soon as they can......Still bloody annoying though!
 
Bet you it was the electric gubbins on top of the fuel pump. This was the bit that went if water got in (before they redid the seals). This is what happened to mine last year (& quite a few other early bikes). My dealer initially thought it was the pump power itself but they can be excused as mine was an early failure before the cause became common knowledge.

Paul
 
Yep I'd accept that that was likely but the recal work was done on one of it's previous visits for the phantom battery problem that John Clarks said there was not problem with.

They still don't really know whay the battery would only hold fours days worth of charge, but the new battery does seem to have solved the problem.

Mrs Boxed-in:rolleyes:
 
At last i've got my bike back.
Apparently it was a sensor on the crank shaft that had failed, so the ignition was unaware the engine was turning over...
Jefferies said this was the first fault of this kind they have had to deal with.
Still just had a quick test ride.....yipee the bike is awesome, all breakdown woes now forgotten!!!
Goes, stops, wheelies, corners.............

Phil
 
Phil W said:
Well my GS still isn't fixed!!
Spoke to Jefferies today and they said the part they had replaced hadn't solved the problem.
They have now ordered another part and my wait continues. Apparently they haven't come across this problem before( some engine management part).
They did offer me a courtesy bike though, and promised to sort it as soon as they can......Still bloody annoying though!
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Phil,

I live in Mexico, and have a Mexican RGS12. Had similar problem. After various tests the dealer changed a crankshaft sensor located at the top and front o of the engine. This sensor is supposed to send a signal to the fuel pump. I should say that initially the dealer changed the fuel pump controller but that did not work.

Hope you get your bike soon
 
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