2 X GS1200 ENGINES GONE POP

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Anyway im not happy i love GS,s had 1100, 1150 then bought brand new 1200 when they first came out as did my father. Fantastic bikes but we have had quite a few probs with both 1200,s (must mention 1100 and 1150 no probs)
First batterys kept going flat, new updated software soughted that .
Next fuel pump gave up on my bike, had to get towed home, but hey bmw fitted updated pump thanks, no problem.
Next my dads bike developed lots of play in rear wheel, again Bmw replaced complete rear end, very sorry they said never had one do it before!!!! thanks again.
Then September last year dads bike seized, never got full explanation from Bmw, BUT Even though bike was just out of warranty they agreed to replace engine, again pretty pi**ed off because the bike only had about 13000 miles on and dad had to pay £1200 labour charges!!!!! (keep smileing but not really HAPPY)
Then last Sunday ( april fools fu**ing day) my 1200 went bang!!!! Its in Allan Jeffries right now waiting to be looked at, not sure exactly whats wrong they cant look at it till next week, but i think its not looking good and im out of warranty with only 12000 miles!!!!
Lets hope Bmw keep up there customer care!!!!

STILL LOVE GS,s BUT MY (jap)MATES ARE STARTING TO TAKE THE PISS, ARE WE JUST UNLUCKY?????
 
I ride with both Dave and his Dad, and can vouch for their riding style. While they both 'make progress' when appropriate, neither of these bikes have been off road, thrashed mercilessly, neglected or had unsuitable after-market mods made. Both bikes are kept spotless and garaged when not in use, and both have full dealer srvice history.

I was suprised when, not long after purchase Dave told me his bike had been trailered following the fuel pump failure and it seems to have been one thing after another since but I was shocked when his Dad told me how his had gone pop. Whilst en-route to Jeffries for a service, throttling down to enter a thirty, the engine just went bang and the left side pot virtually disintegrated.

None of these failures have followed a spell of 'spirited' riding, nothing that could easily be pointed to as the reason, just totally unexpected and unexlainable major failures. So far they've occurred in the UK but we ride a lot overseas and a problem like these so far would be much worse so far from home. I think the £1200 to swap the engine was astronomical. Surely it shouldn't be anywhere near that much ?
 
It sounds to me like one of these three things:

1. incredibly bad luck
2. are both bikes from the same batch - QA problem at the factory when they were built?
3. poor dealer servicing

If both bikes are from the same batch, you probably have a stronger case to argue with BMW. You might even be able to mount a retrospective claim for the £1200 labour charge!

I don't know what the dealer could do so wrong in servicing that option 3 is a possibility, but it does seem highly suspicious that a father and son's bikes both go pop.

Anyway, whatever the cause is, it's a right pain in the arras for you and I sympathise. Just hope mine doesn't go the same way...:eek:
 
Unlucky, but not the first or the last R1200 series engines to expire

If you want to know which bike to buy always ask the service Technician, not the Salesman:D
 
Malcvtr said:
both bikes from the same batch - QA problem at the factory when they were built?
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Is a good point. Both bikes bought from the same dealer and two of the first into the UK. Has to be a possibility.
 
I bought my first GS in September '04. After a few monts of ownership the bike went into the dealer to get the cylinder heads changed (under warranty - paint coming off). The job took a bit long than expected, because my dealer discovered a fault in the oil supply system, and had to wait for some parts to come from Germany. He did mention something at the time about a pump being incorrectly seated or a pipe being incorrectly fitted at the factory. The dealer repaired the fault whilst fitting the new heads. I never really questioned it at the time, but always remember wondering if this "problem" would have affected the bike at some time in the future , if it hadn't been spotted.

Maybe, just maybe, this is the cause of your engines going pop.

Kaycee
 
KMD said:
Is a good point. Both bikes bought from the same dealer and two of the first into the UK. Has to be a possibility.
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In that case, I think the guys should push BMW hard, both through their dealer and direct to BMW customer service. The key thing on an issue like this is perseverence - don't let the buggers fob you off (as they will inevitably try to do). :thumb
 
Product enhancement number 0013160000 ECU re-map is current BMW recall. Detonation on light throttle & overun. Get your bikes back to the dealers & get em checked. If still in warranty you should get a recall notice.

It seems it takes BMW like some others a few years to get things right. Great concept but poorly delivered.
 
After long wait ,,,,
Thankyou Alan Jeffries, you have helped and been on my side all the way......
After my dads engine going pop i hoped mine would be ok!!!! But sure enough mine followed suit at 12000 miles! right hand piston died!! not sure of full details, but jeffries have told me me new engine on its way!!!! even though bike out of warranty early 04 model....
i have to pay 1/2 labour cost, better than dad who had to pay full labour....
Should we argue about costs, im not sure!!!!

BUT i think there is a problem with early 1200,s but maybe not enough for a full recall, so BMW are keeping affected customers happy ISH!!!!

Anybody got any thoughts!!!!!!!
 
My view, as stated above, is that you should push to have your dad's labour charge refunded and not to pay anything yourself. What are the chances of two R1200GSs, both from the same batch, having the same engine problem by coincidence? It's got to be a manufacturing/materials fault and I think BMW have virtually admitted that by being so "generous" in supplying a free new engine. It's clearly not your fault, so why should you pay anything?

They might tell you to f... er, go away, but what have you lost by arguing your case? :)
 
bmw will never admitt to any fault ...you are very unlikly to get a explination ...you will in all probability get it fixed ..which to me is no good [ shouldnt happen in the first place ]

1200 quid in labour costs ,,,,,free engine .....mmmmmmmmmmm

omg .......:rolleyes:
its a dam disgace ....that to me is less than six months of service ....???
hope it all works out for you but ....12k miles ......

65and 77 thousand miles on me black birds one failed rectifier ..... varadero .. dl 1000 ...dl650 30k no problems no failures no servicing costs ....eighteen months ....on happy yes
vote with yer feet


ect ...depressing ... commiserations and good luck ...:eek:
 
Malcvtr said:
My view, as stated above, is that you should push to have your dad's labour charge refunded and not to pay anything yourself. What are the chances of two R1200GSs, both from the same batch, having the same engine problem by coincidence? It's got to be a manufacturing/materials fault and I think BMW have virtually admitted that by being so "generous" in supplying a free new engine. It's clearly not your fault, so why should you pay anything?

They might tell you to f... er, go away, but what have you lost by arguing your case? :)
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I agree but don't debate the cost until it is fixed and test ride before as well so you have the bike to take home.
 
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