09 GS1200 Adventure Topbox locks

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Anyone else found that with the new style lock fillers(they are now key shaped and hard plastic,rather than the fiddley rubber protectors on the older model) can actaully open a locked topbox??? On mine I lock with the key but can simply turn the plastic protector and it unlocks, although I can't lock it with the protector have to use the key for that!!! Is this a general problem or is it just me?
 
+1, I agree with Boz, just checked mine and they work as they should !

Chris.
 
I just checked mine and the plastic bung opens the box and removes it from the bike!:eek::eek::eek:

Havent tried the sides yet.....

Ian.
 
Somebody better tell BMW pronto so this can be fixed, assuming your luggage comes pre-keyed to the bike.

When I went to get my Varios recoded to fit my keys years ago, the dealer didn't have enough of the number 2 wafers and said they could leave that particular wafer out but the lock could be easy to pick or open with less wafers in it.

Perhaps the GSA locks work the same way and whoever coded the locks to the keys left a few hard to source wafers out??
 
Have been in touch with my local dealer, Riders of Cardiff. The guy I spoke to seemed to know about the issue, but the person I needed to speak with was on a day off.
I have also called BMW Customer Services and surprise, surprise they claim not to have heard of this problem.
I am awaiting a call back from one of their product people.
Will report when I know more.
 
+1

Plastic bung opens the locks on mine too - I removed them but I'm sure anything else that shape would work :(

Posted about it before here
 
OK that last post probably answers my question as two of my 8 locks on the full set fail in this way and they are both the main opening lock of the panniers.

I was wondering if it was just the opening lock of the panniers, but I guess the locks are all the same so should behave in the same way.

These are the two locks I have used the most and they appear to be very difficlut to remove the key from the lock however with time it seems to have got easier, I do hope this hasn't made them more likely to be turned by the inserts.

I rang my dealer yesterday as ever first they've heard of it. Definitely not the last though.
 
I can open 2 of the six locks, it is the 2 ( one on each box ) that I use regularly to open them I wonder if they get worn. however its not aceptable.

will be talking to the dealer very soon. Like 9.01 tommorow morning.

Can anybody that has the older locks with flimsy rubber inserts open then with somthing like a screwdriver or bit of thin plastic.
 
thanks for all the replies, spoke to my dealer today, BMW are issueing new covers with the plastic insert half the length this is supposed to solve the problem, expected in store in the next week!!! I still wonder if the locks are secure against any bit of plastic the right width and length.
 
Surely it is the locks that are faulty.
I have tried the plastic insert in the ignition and petrol cap and it doesn’t work. Also, I have spoken to 2 dealers who I know well. They genuinely had not heard of the problem and were sure that the fault must be the locks and not the insert.
As I posted before, some of my locks open with a screwdriver!
I’m booked in next week to have the locks looked at. Fingers crossed for a solution and not a battle!

I also wonder if this is a more widespread issue. Certainly for me, I discovered the problem having read this post, and have had the panniers for a while now.
 
Frankh said:
Anyone else found that with the new style lock fillers(they are now key shaped and hard plastic,rather than the fiddley rubber protectors on the older model) can actaully open a locked topbox??? On mine I lock with the key but can simply turn the plastic protector and it unlocks, although I can't lock it with the protector have to use the key for that!!! Is this a general problem or is it just me?
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Hi Frankh
Read your situation ref the boxlocks !!!
I have 2008 GSA, one of my side boxes, front lock does exactly as you say, lock's with the key, but opens with the plastic filler. on the same box the back lock is fine. All the other boxes are o.k. Thank,s very much for pointing this out, will be getting it into the dealer pdq
 
I have the same problem with all 8 of my locks, they will all happily lock and unlock with the plastic bung.

I reported this to my dealer back in January and it they got on to BMW. It took until the end of April for BMW to come up wit the "solution". Except that their idea of a solution was not to fix the locks but to replace the bung with a slightly shorter one! So now you can only steal all my panniers if you bring your own bit of plactic instead of using the one that is already on the bike. I was not impressed!

After some experiments with another new lock, the dealer claimed to have fixed the problem and said it was down to too much greaase in the locks stopping the plates moving freely inside. Sure, and I'm Abraham Lincoln! They were supposed to have fixed my locks but when I got the panniers back sure enough they weren't fixed.

The problem is obviosuly widespread enough for BMW to make a new bung for the lock. Presumably this also means that the locks are not "faulty", just badly designed. I think it depends on your ignition key and how similar it is to the shape of the bung.

There is an address for Customer Services in the back of the warranty book. I wrote them a snotty letter this week, still waiting for a reply.

I sugget everyone else with the locks problem writes them a snotty letter too and maybe we will get some action!
 
Here's my theory:

- That there is nothing wrong with the locks per se.
- That the problem is the way that they are coded. Coding the locks is fiddly and time consuming.
- He may use the wrong wafers or not enough of them, but as far as he's concerned its a working lock if the key turns in the lock.
- But using this measure of success does not preclude other keys / objects from opening the lock.
- So to me it seems its down to training and doing a job properly IMHO.

Just a theory...not substantiated in any way.

But rest assured I'll be testing my locks tonight !! Grrr.
 
My theory:

If you want some free stuff, carry a flatblade screwdriver and go out looking for GSA's parked nearby.:rolleyes:
 
WindyChuffer said:
Here's my theory:

- That there is nothing wrong with the locks per se.
- That the problem is the way that they are coded. Coding the locks is fiddly and time consuming.
- He may use the wrong wafers or not enough of them, but as far as he's concerned its a working lock if the key turns in the lock.
- But using this measure of success does not preclude other keys / objects from opening the lock.
- So to me it seems its down to training and doing a job properly IMHO.

Just a theory...not substantiated in any way.

But rest assured I'll be testing my locks tonight !! Grrr.
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A very good theory, something very simliar to the Dealer I spoke to yesterday. It was suggested that the job had not been done properly in the first place (by another dealer).
 
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