HID lamps £99.00 for 1150

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As the nights are now drawing in i have discovered just how poor the lights are, especially with my advancing years!
Came across a thread where 'Droopy Dick' had converted his lights to HID
The kits are from this link
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=12
dependant on if you want a waterproof balast or not there are between £99 and £120 each.
I called the company and they were very helpfull, giving lots of advice, I thought not too bad considering that a fancy light buld can cost £25
the HID runs cooler ( only 35 watt) so should not dammage the standard lamps.
They do offer a discount for bulk orders, but i suppose trying to get all the monies upfront to make one order could be a bit of a nightmare ?.
I will order at least one for my adventure
anyone got any advice ,comments to add
thanks

:beer:
 
If a bulk order is going ahead, I may be interested in a pair with waterproof ballasts. Cheque or Paypal up front, no problem.

After looking at the link, I see that the colour temperature is stated as 6,000 or 8,000? Is this referring to Kelvin? If so, I'm sure I remember reading that a lower Kelvin rating of 4 to 5,000 is better - any thoughts on this?
 
I have fitted a pair of the units from hids4u and so far so good.
But I wasn't offered waterproof balasts. They were sold for use on a bike so I hope they will be OK.
I fitted one where the abs unit would go, but the wires were just too short to fit both in there, as one light is further away than the other.
I fitted the other under the beak.
I paid about £200 for the pair.
Mike.
 
Yosi said:
5K kelvin is considered daylight. So 7-8K should be blue (ish)


I have 6000K lamps and they are distinctly blue.

I would suspect that 8000K lamps might be so violet that they might be of less use to the human eye which is designed for faylight (5200K).

I didn't ask about whether the ballasts were waterporrof. I kinda assumed that anything sold for a bike would be.

But a 5 hours ride home though a torrential downpour and more than occasional thunderclap didn't produce any problems - and both of my ballasts are mounted under the beak.
 
As Yosi says 6000k is considered white/blue tinge
9000k is into violet, not much good but look impressive for the boys
to ride around town in their Saxo's, and most likely not legal.

Droopy, you fitted two.. at first glance the main beam aim is not independant to the dip, only a bit more focused to the centre and a litle higher, is that correct, and which lamp gave the most dramatic improvement

thanks
:beer:
 
pomm001 said:
do you have any pics of how and where you mounted the balasts under the beak ?

thanks

No!

But I'll try and get you some.

They're mounted side by side right at the back of the beak . They're set so that the bolts that hold them on ar immediately in front of the oil cooler guard (the rearmost) and the others some 3" or so further forward.

The cables then run up to the headlights where a bit of fiddling about will sort you out.

Both headlights are independent and independently alignable/adjustable.

Which is better? I think the most improvement is to the main beam, but that's because it's a nice projector-type with a narrow beam. The dip beam throws out a lot more light and increased confidence a lot. It doesn't, however, do much to sort out the utterly dire lens pattern that BMW chose to fit.

I didn't take any photos as I was connecting them, and BTBR weent at the slack cable like a thing demented with cable ties. I've no real desire to undo it all.
 
Thanks Droopy
i am interested in your comment that both lamps are adjustable independant of each other for height, or have i misunderstood
An extract from a manual off the net seems to suggest that there is one height and one bias adjustment, i hope that is not the case, how / Where do you adjust the main beam height

thanks
 
pomm001 said:
Thanks Droopy
i am interested in your comment that both lamps are adjustable independant of each other for height, or have i misunderstood
An extract from a manual off the net seems to suggest that there is one height and one bias adjustment, i hope that is not the case, how / Where do you adjust the main beam height

thanks


You'll find cross head screws hidden inside the black plastic surround. You can get at 'em with a decent screwdriver. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!! They are made of chocolate, so it'd be easy to strip the heads. Best done at night against a nice garage door.

Or in my case, by riding and stopping every few yards to make adjustments. You'll get there in the end.

The plastic screw and lever on the LHS accessible from the rear adjusts the whole light platform, i.e. both lights togther.
 
Any clue as to whether this kit would be suitable for the 1200? I'd like a bit more light, but don't want auxilliary lamps.
 
dont see why not , not unless the 1200 has a 'bulb check' system which informs you of any bulbs broken, it it has then it may need a different kit, best speak to them direct for that advice
 
Just spoken to HIDS4U:

Bike kits with waterproof ballasts & 6,000 Kelvin bulbs are £239.99 a pair. Postage is £9.99.

I want one for dip main as does someone else on this site. I've got the price down to £225 a pair so far, a few more orders will bring this down to £220 a pair. If they're good, I'll order another for main & possibly my girlfriend will want a set also?

Pairs can be split if you want only one kit but the £9.99 postage charge still applies - best bet is to order a pair with someone who lives near you & split the postage.

Each ballast box measures approx. 3.5" x 3" x 1".

Anyone else interested? You make the payments straight to the Vendor not me.
 
My 1150 is non-ABS, I can locate the ballast(s) in the space beneath the tanknormally occupied by the ABS gubbins.

Are there any issues with the ballast boxes running hot or burning out if they're not kept cool? They generate 23,000v so I assume there is a degree of heat involved?

I'm also thinking of wrapping mine in thin foam to minimise vibes - any ideas on this?

Thanks

Steve
 
Steve Pickford said:
My 1150 is non-ABS, I can locate the ballast(s) in the space beneath the tanknormally occupied by the ABS gubbins.

Are there any issues with the ballast boxes running hot or burning out if they're not kept cool? They generate 23,000v so I assume there is a degree of heat involved?

I'm also thinking of wrapping mine in thin foam to minimise vibes - any ideas on this?

Thanks

Steve

Steve

I will be ordering mine next week, it sounds as if the 'pilot' ones seems to be slightly better suited as the ballast is waterproof
Someone asked if the ballast got hot, I asked this question as well and was told they run cool.
Must say the chap there has been very helpful and seem to know his stuff, he said if after fitting to the dip beam, I want to do the main as well, he would split a pair and sell me one.


:beer:
 
pomm001 said:
Steve

I will be ordering mine next week, it sounds as if the 'pilot' ones seems to be slightly better suited as the ballast is waterproof
Someone asked if the ballast got hot, I asked this question as well and was told they run cool.
Must say the chap there has been very helpful and seem to know his stuff, he said if after fitting to the dip beam, I want to do the main as well, he would split a pair and sell me one.


:beer:

Very soon I'll be ordering three lights, enough for the dip beam on three bikes. I'll post pics of before & after.
 
Are the kits H1 specific or do the kits come with a kit, to adapt to the bulb required. :confused:
 
Les Wassall said:
Are the kits H1 specific or do the kits come with a kit, to adapt to the bulb required. :confused:

Les

not quite sure of your question ?
but have a look at the link
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/product_details.asp?id=12
you would need a kit
a kit is; ballst box ( this generates the high voltage,approx 20odd thousand volts to power the bulb)
all leads, and a HID bulb, the kit you need will be for a H1
the HID bulb,allegedly fits into the same fitting as the standard, but it is approx 5 mm longer at the back ,so some modification needed there, a few folks on the board have already done the conversion.
It will be one of my winter projects
:beer:
 
I'm interested in upgrading my dip beam but I'm wondering how everything connects up (airfix models are about my technical limt). Is it very complicated ?
 
Twotter said:
I'm interested in upgrading my dip beam but I'm wondering how everything connects up (airfix models are about my technical limt). Is it very complicated ?

Twot,
If you get the kits or kit, I'll help you do it.
Ray S also is about to fit some, so we could have a East Anglia group hid fitting here if you want.

Mike.
 


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