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[JKW]

Being 6'4" I needed as much protection as I could get - started with the Touring screen and although this is fine it means that I get full blast from the shoulders up, but of 'clean' air so its liveable-with. I bought and fitted the Wunderlich Vario Ergo screen which sorts out the winter blast to the body but at full height/extension gives the most appalling head buffeting, resulting in headaches and 'permanently' blurred vision (while moving). So last weekend I purchased the deflector second-hand from ROVER of this parish - what a difference! Can still feel the wind, but only just and its so quiet on the 800GS now I need to be v. careful on the throttle and actually keep an eye on the speedo.

The only downsides are that with the Vario at full extension and the deflector on top, things move around quite a bit more; also having the deflector just below eye-line means looking through rather than over the screen quite a bit which takes some getting used to. But overall I think I've finally found the combination of bits which works for me.

PS Will have to remove the screen when MOT comes round because the large BMW handguards touch the screen on full lock (no reduction in the extent of the lock - they just touch) and according to my sources this is an automatic MOT fail.

 

[chas820]

the large BMW handguards touch the screen on full lock

Have you tried rotating the bars back a bit??

 

[JKW]

Have you tried rotating the bars back a bit??

Yep - or at least Graham (who serviced it on Monday) did! It was possible to get one side to clear but not the other. Not a big job to whip the whole screen off - apparently 'no screen at all' is not an MOT failure.

 

[earwig]

Touring Screens

My 650 twin has the standard screen, which is fine when pottering around, but anything over about 40mph, I get full blast in the chest , so was wondering about getting the touring screen that BMW do for the F800. Has anyone done this, if so whats it like?

Can of worms I know, but Give, Wonderluch(sp?) other options for someone whos about 5' 11" (and skinny )

PS,
Why don't BMW offer this screen as an option for the F650 twin?

Thanks in advance

 

[Silversurfer]

I have the BMW Touring Screen on my F800GS. Big difference over the standard screen. All the wind blast is taken from the chest and the bike is so much more comfortable on the motorways. However, I found that the Touring Screen did seem to put a lot of cold air directly under the bottom of my crash helmet. The Wunderlich screen deflector cured this and I would definitely recommend one. Not cheap but worthwhile.

 

[corky]

Touring screens

I have got a 30 year anniversay model with the taller standard screen on it, not bad but for touring added a touratech spoiler--this was better and wind hit at mid helmet point, I' 5-9. For last summers tour I added a temporary piece of lexan, bolted through the 3 standard bolt holes so easily removeable. This was good, and could in most conditions ride with visor up all speeds. Rain however got to the helmet and therefore thought more protection needed, to keep going in heavy downpours. I bought a BMW touring screen---what a piece of design shit! It is worse than the stock screen and does what silversurfer says,--puts the wind directly under your helmet--very uncomfortable--much worse than stock screen plus touratech. Interested in Silversurfers comments--can ride up 60mph with visor up,--this still isnt much good for touring, youre never below 60! Doing something with the screen looks difficult as the angle it comes back at is very shallow. Anyone else ditched this screen? How tall are you Silver surfer, and if it deflects wind over the helmet, why visor up only to 60mph?

Thanks, need to know to decide if wunderlech deflector should be bought. Anyone got one for sale?

Thanks,


Bill

 

[Silversurfer]

Touring Screens

I have got a 30 year anniversay model with the taller standard screen on it, not bad but for touring added a touratech spoiler--this was better and wind hit at mid helmet point, I' 5-9. For last summers tour I added a temporary piece of lexan, bolted through the 3 standard bolt holes so easily removeable. This was good, and could in most conditions ride with visor up all speeds. Rain however got to the helmet and therefore thought more protection needed, to keep going in heavy downpours. I bought a BMW touring screen---what a piece of design shit! It is worse than the stock screen and does what silversurfer says,--puts the wind directly under your helmet--very uncomfortable--much worse than stock screen plus touratech. Interested in Silversurfers comments--can ride up 60mph with visor up,--this still isnt much good for touring, youre never below 60! Doing something with the screen looks difficult as the angle it comes back at is very shallow. Anyone else ditched this screen? How tall are you Silver surfer, and if it deflects wind over the helmet, why visor up only to 60mph?

Thanks, need to know to decide if wunderlech deflector should be bought. Anyone got one for sale?

Thanks,


Bill

Hi Corky,

I am 5ft 11" so probably sit a bit taller than you. Also have the BMW touring seat fitted which is a bit taller than than standard seat + handlebar risers. Because it's flexible mounted the BMW touring screen flexes down the faster you go. It does this even without the deflector fitted, so I found about 60mph is where the wind starts to get into my crash helmet again. Not too concerned about it as I had a "near death experience" a few years ago on the Autoroute in France when some bloody great insect came into my face at around 80mph. Apart from nearly blinding me it hurt like f**k. Been a bit wary ever since and usually drop the visor at that point..

Touratech also do a deflector, see link:

http://www.touratech.com/shops/008/popup_image.php?pID=8361

for £81.68p + P&P, (Wunderlich £86.87p), but it clamps on and I was a bit wary about it being secure at motorway speeds. The thought of that coming off and belting me in the face put me off. Also I thought it could be easily nicked. I do have some perspex sheet and have thought about making a deflector to suit using the Wunderlich mount, but to be honest I am quite happy with it as is.

The BMW touring screen is very definitely better with the deflector fitted and there is a lot of adjustment on the Wunderlich deflector..

 

[corky]

Touing screen

Thanks Silversurfer,

Wunderlich it is, if no good Ill ditch the screen

Thanks,

Bill

 

[snappo]

Yep - or at least Graham (who serviced it on Monday) did! It was possible to get one side to clear but not the other. Not a big job to whip the whole screen off - apparently 'no screen at all' is not an MOT failure.

True dat - I took mine for MOT without the screen on, as the pyramid one I had fouled the bars on full lock, nothing was said at the Testing Station..

 

[mistereri]

Windscreen ADV Type Highest Protection Full Attack for F 650-800 GS (08')

Hi guys,

I would suggest to try this guys at this link
http://euronetbike.net/isotta/motorcycles/bmw/f650-800gs-08/

Windscreen ADV Type Highest Protection Full Attack for F 650-800 GS (08')

Dimensions:

Thickness:

It's the highest you can find around.

Cheers

Jon

 

[LUCA]

The old screen saga

Hi Everyone,

Just new to the forum as now owner of a f800gs after my recent foray into Benelli Trek ownership, long storey so save that one for later.
Anyways been watching this thread with intent.
l too seem to be suffering from the dreaded noise when riding the gs.
l have a BMW touring screen on the bike with the alloy brace / braket holding it, this was all fitted to the bike when l aquired it.
l noticed that the screen curves / rakes back quite a lot.
Even when wearing earplugs and a X3 lid without the peak l am suffering a noisey ride, worse with the x3 peak on, if l stand up l am in quite air but sit down and its well annoying. l am 5.8 with 30 I S L. If l duck down also in quite air. I am looking at 3 options at the mo as follows;


1/ lsotta adjustable screen from M&P £163.00 looks good and adjusts up and bak and forward, however cant find any reviews on this one, can anyone help??

2/ Cals sci 21.5 inch screen

3/ Wunderlich ergo vario

Its manly the noise levels that are getting to me and causing me the probs, l guess thats caused by turbulance coming around and over the top of the screen l have.

Any advise would be appreciated guys especially on the isotta screen

Cheers Paul

 

[Smythson]

I'm about the same size as you and have tried a lot of screens (though not the Isotta or CalSci) and i found many of them would have been great had i been ~6ft. I'm also using what i suspect is a quieter lid (Shoei Qwest) but still noisy. I have tried raising the seat a little and this does help if I stretch to full height but this gets tiring quickly!

With the screen completely off it is still noisy so i suspect the turbulence is being caused by the nose/light cluster and it would be the job of any screen to smooth this before it gets to your head.

Just finished trying the WRS from Italy and back to fiddling with the Britannia Composites. If i do find the answer (for me at least!) I'll be posting here.

Best of luck,

S

 

[Pete the paint]

Hi Everyone,

Just new to the forum as now owner of a f800gs after my recent foray into Benelli Trek ownership, long storey so save that one for later.
Anyways been watching this thread with intent.
l too seem to be suffering from the dreaded noise when riding the gs.
l have a BMW touring screen on the bike with the alloy brace / braket holding it, this was all fitted to the bike when l aquired it.
l noticed that the screen curves / rakes back quite a lot.
Even when wearing earplugs and a X3 lid without the peak l am suffering a noisey ride, worse with the x3 peak on, if l stand up l am in quite air but sit down and its well annoying. l am 5.8 with 30 I S L. If l duck down also in quite air. I am looking at 3 options at the mo as follows;


1/ lsotta adjustable screen from M&P £163.00 looks good and adjusts up and bak and forward, however cant find any reviews on this one, can anyone help??

2/ Cals sci 21.5 inch screen

3/ Wunderlich ergo vario

Its manly the noise levels that are getting to me and causing me the probs, l guess thats caused by turbulance coming around and over the top of the screen l have.

Any advise would be appreciated guys especially on the isotta screen

Cheers Paul

Hi Luca,
Had an 800gs up to late 2010, but have now gone to dark side, 1200gs.
Tried everything on the screen front; Nippy Norman screen, then tried a TT spoiler on it, then a CalSci 21ins and finally a Wunderlich Vario.
Started out with the standard BMW touting screen... Useless.
I'm 5-11 by the way.
Summary is that the CalSci is good but I finally went for the flexibility of the Vario, I toured a lot in Spain and Portugal, long runs each time.
The one weakness of the Vario is that the adjusting clips can loosen on bumpy terrain. I solved this by wiring them closed for additional security. Job done!
Never used the Isotta though.
My biggest prob with the 800 at the end was the coolant hose migrating off the pump... see other threads.
Otherwise great bike, but for long tours it's hard to beat the big brother.
Pete

 

[LUCA]

Screen options

Thanks for the feedback guys.

l have just tried the small standard screen off a friends bike and its worse than the BMW Touring screen which was on the bike when l got it, arrrrgh, loads of buffeting and bike feels a little unstable at very high speed ( closed roads ) .

Pete, did the Cali sic and Wunderlich Vario screens cure the noise issues for you? Also is the Wunderlich adjustable for back and forth as well as up and down?
l have got to get a fix on this as l have a scotish tour booked soon so dont want to do 1200 + miles with the noise levels l have at the moment.

Cheers again Paul

 

[Smythson]

Hi Paul,

Wunderlich vario only goes up and down.

On an aside have you tired raising you seat a little bit? I found padding out the seat a couple of inches meant when took the screen completely off it put my head in clean air. Though it got tiring very quickly at motorway speeds!

S

 

[JKW]

Paul - (as I posted elsewhere)...

Wun Vario Screen - got one fitted to my F800GS. Bought from Nippy Normans - as usual arrived v. promptly! Really easy to fit - just take out fixing screws for standard screen (actually a bit more complicated for me as I had the BMW touring screen fitted so needed to reinstate the fairing brackets - brackets from Motorworks) and follow very clear instructions. Build quality is good - the screen comes in two sections - bottom half smoked and a thinner clearer adjustable top section. This top section then has quick release catches to enable further adjustment - but there is a sliding range for fixing the top section (before adjustment) so quite a lot of scope for getting the thing set just right. Only issue I had was that one of the carriage bolts which hold the two pieces of screen together was not properly threaded and so permamently loose and it took a good couple of weeks for NN to source replacments from Wunderlich.

Once on and moving, the first thing I noticed was the reduction in blast to the chest, hands and shoulders - it really deflects well at hand level and is much wider than the BMW screens (stock & touring). It does flex quite a lot, which took some getting used to - but I am 6'4" and had it extended to the full.

Couple of minor downsides - as it is v. wide my handguards just touch the screen at full lock which has no effect on riding (touch - not restrict) but means that the whole lot will have to come off at MOT time. Also, the adjustment release levers appear to be designed specifically to scratch the lower screen when released. They could really do with rubbers/plastic coating - which I'll do when I can be bothered - oh, and just a little more thickness on the upper section would be better - but a v. minor gripe!

The problem, as with all screens - is whether they actually work for an individual. I found that on lowest setting I was very sheltered up to neck level but got full blast on the helmet of 'not quite clean' air; on higher settings and up to max things deteriorated until on the top setting I had turbulent air hitting the top of my helmet causing appalling head shake and noise. So I fitted a Wun screen extender which has done the trick for me. This means that I am looking through or round it when going up hill or accelerating hard - but I don't see there's anyway round this. If you want the wind out of your face then you need a screen up to 'just below eye-level' which means that you are going to have to look 'through' rather than 'over' at some stage.

As we are all different sizes it's impossible to say - buy this it'll do the job - however, the Wun Vario works for me and I'm happy to recommend it as a piece of kit.

HTH

 

[Fordy]

I bought a Puig screen*. It was much better than standard but fouled the BB handguards so it came off again.

I tried my mates TT deflector for a 1200GS, again better but with the scalloped top of the standard screen the plastics rubbed, plus I didn't like the idea of the extension piece flying off at teeth level so that came off.

I solved it with a 40p mod. 2 nr 20p tap washers to the top two mounting points. Took original screen off completely and was careful putting the bolts and progressive tightening as they don't align 100%, but good enough if you're careful. The wind which previously caught my shoulders and caused big buffeting now just skips over my shoulders (5'8"/29").

I did a 1500 mile trip to Scotland 2 weekends ago and it was fine

Buffeting was my issue, I've also I've noticed noise is much worse on a £350 Shoei than a £100 AGV flip helmet in that I need ear plugs for in the Shoei not the AGV.

*The Puig is for sale though if interested, I hadn't got round to posting yet.

 

[Pete the paint]

Luca, both the CalSci and Wunderlich screens cut out noise and buffeting and I was happy with them.
I went for the Wunderlich mainly so that I could drop the screen height for warm weather riding in Spain and Portugal. And as JKW says the Wunderlich is only adjustable upwards or downwards, and yes it marginally touchs on full lock.
Either screen will do the job for you.
From my 1200 experience I believe that you will only improve matters thereafter with winglets as on the Adventure.
Pete.

 

[Malcolm Leick]

Has anyone actually fitted winglets with the Vario screen? I thought it was not possible.

I have the Vario and its pretty effective (5'8). As well as dropping the upper screen in hot weather, you can also drop it when its snowing and you can't see through it! My bars are 2" higher than standard which means I do sit more upright than normal.

My adjusting levers also come loose but a simple bodge should cure that. I put the original touring screen back on for the MOT.

Interestingly, although the wind noise drops with the Vario, the engine/exhaust is much louder as the sound isn't being blown behind you. So I still end up using ear plugs on long rides! That's with a Beowulf can on. Standard can should be fine.

I agree that the helmet can make a big difference. I now have the BMW flip front which is a lot better than my old Shuberth C2. You can see by the length of this thread that its a very personal thing. Good luck!

 

[v8legend]

Couple of minor downsides - as it is v. wide my handguards just touch the screen at full lock which has no effect on riding (touch - not restrict) but means that the whole lot will have to come off at MOT time.

HTH

Can you twist the bars back at MOT time, then put them back after? A lot easier than taking the screen off!