► Chains, oilers, sprockets

[mark-forrest]

I snapped the spigot off on my current 800gs, after already managing it ok on my previous bike and my wifes 650gs.

The spigot is part of a t-piece that is molded into the airbox, the other connecttions have pipes that are either breathers or I think go to sensors.

When I tried to get the airbox out I managed to snap the t-piece off as well and ended up needing a new air box. I might have managed a warranty claim as the spigot seemed thin on one side as if it was improperly molded. But as I trashed it removing the airbox the best the dealer could do was a deal on fitting.

There should be room to weld the spigot back on, but if it's under warranty and the spigot looks unevenly molded I try for as warranty fix.

Cheers

Mark

 

[John O'Kane]

The Fix

I removed the airbox, turned it upside down, and replaced the broken spigot with something I found in my garage. It looks like it was a screw-in top of a glue - with a tapered end which cen be trimmed to suit the size needed.

The photos show:
the broken spigot - held in place by a screw.

the fix sitting in place, with the original cap and with the Scottoiler fitting

the fix after I had used a 2-part adhesive.

So far I have just started the bike and all seems well - I sealed the Scottoiler tube from the new spigot but intend to complete the installation of the oiler tomorrow.

I will report any problems.

So far I would suggest that the diagram that comes with the kit should be ignored where it shows how to remove the plug. This method calls for positioning pliers horizontally and pulling off the plug by pressing downwards. I found this impossible and when I tried it the spigot broke off the airbox,

A better way is to insert the pliers from the opening that is 2 triangles below that in the Scottoiler diagram - this insures that force is exerted along the spigot rather than at right angles to it.

 

[Greggers]

Nicely done ... and it looks like an airbed inflation adaptor for a footpump btw lol...

 

[topcat2006]

nice.

As a tip a hot soldering iron works well on these types of plastic to eld them together.

I started my Jeep to soon on Gas and blew the air box up. Its all back together now with a soldering iron melting the broken bits together.

Tom

 

[John O'Kane]

Thanks for all the help.

The crisis is passed, I hope, and I learned a lot that I wanted to know anyway.

The instructions with the Scottoiler show the airbox plug being removed using long nosed pliers positioned at right angles to it. That is hovw I broke the spigot - with pliers that were not long enough.

BUT, the plug and spigot, when broken off were so closely bound together that I doubt if any pliers could have removed the plug from the position shown on the Scottoiler instructions.

A U-tube demo(by Scottoiler) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxccszqdMwg shows the plug being removed using a hand inserted from below the level of the plug. It seems pretty obvious that removing the plug from below like that is more likely to be successful and less likely to damage the spigot.

Why then does their instruction leaflet show the plug being removed differently? In following their instructions I broke the spigot and landed myself in a lot of trouble.

Anyway all is well. Perhaps others may benefit from this.

Thank you all

 

[ash_gs]

Glad to see I'm not the only one!

I did exactly the same to my airbox when trying to fit the scottoiler - couldn't be bothered to remove the airbox though, seemed like far too much trouble.

I got a piece of rubber hosing to match the inside diameter of the spigot and used that to add more surface area for gluing it all together with the superglue that comes with the Scottoiler. I think it all seem's OK - wasn't convinced about how airtight it was, but the Scottoiler works fine. The bike still works fine and it's been dealer serviced since then and they didn't mention it.

But like I say - glad to see I'm not the only hamfisted one about!

 

[Smythson]

I have a bike-specific(F650GS twin) kit bought this week. While following the instructions to remove the plug on the spigot below the airbox the spigot broke. A phone call to Technical support at Scottoiler yielded nothing useful. Any suggestions?

Hi John,

On the off-chance you just got pissed off with it all and put it back in the box and left in the shed for so long you couldn't take it back

I'm about to have another go at installing mine - however i've got the vSystem, not the BM specific kit . Spoke to Scottoiler who have been very helpful ( I always think it's the mark of a good company when they assist post sales, with non-profit problems) They directed to the unique BM specific part/s (SA-0103) that sets the kit aside from the any bike version. When they come i may well have some spare spares that i could pop in the post. Two of these spares appear to be brass self tapping spigot-ish bits... let me know me if you think they'd help or want pics.

Anyone else looking at installing one look at the youtube videos by Scottoiler and ignore the paper instructions. Though i'm not sure how i feel about sanding and super glueing my bike Think i'll be looking at an alternative install...

S

 

[Greggers]

Search for the recent post about a broken airbox spigot....

Easy fix really..

G

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

Scottoiler Touring Kit

Anyone fitted the Scottoiler touring kit to their F800GS? Any pics & review would be much appreciated.

Or are you using the Scottoiler Lube Tube?

 

[Smythson]

Just fitted the vSystem (got cheaper than the BM specific one but had to buy a plug unique to the BM setup) however i did not fit as prescribed by Scottoiler.

Either Dave Ett or v8legend (sorry gents it was a while back) recommended fitting to front sprocket instead. It was an easy (10 min) install and works just fine. The sanding and glueing to swingarm looked messy to me and also i think there's less to go wring up front, but that's just in my opinion

I think it's also worth checking out the install vids on Youtube. Search Scotoiler, also the install is in two parts.

Best wishes,

S

Apologies - just realised you were talking about the high capacity system! But on that note - why not just carry an extra bottle under the seat? Perhaps a little easier to remove when not on tour...

 

[stephen.stallebrass]

Dave Ett or v8legend...

...it's also worth checking out the install vids on Youtube....

...just carry an extra bottle under the seat...

The front sprocket set-up would be tidier. I'll look them up.

Seen the videos, they're quite helpful.

I'll probably need 2 bottles worth for a long/RTW tour anyway: one in the RMV & HCR and the other in the spares/tool kit.

 

[Greggers]

The lube tube is the way to go - I've got mine tucked on top of the RH rear inner mud guard - just lift out the ECU and you'll see exactly where I mean..

 

[nig5]

Just fitted the vSystem (got cheaper than the BM specific one but had to buy a plug unique to the BM setup) however i did not fit as prescribed by Scottoiler.

Either Dave Ett or v8legend (sorry gents it was a while back) recommended fitting to front sprocket instead. It was an easy (10 min) install and works just fine. The sanding and glueing to swingarm looked messy to me and also i think there's less to go wring up front, but that's just in my opinion

I think it's also worth checking out the install vids on Youtube. Search Scotoiler, also the install is in two parts.

Best wishes,

S

Apologies - just realised you were talking about the high capacity system! But on that note - why not just carry an extra bottle under the seat? Perhaps a little easier to remove when not on tour...

Any pictures of how you fitted it to the front sprocket? I have fitted the twin nozzles but they are a bugger to line up near the sprocket without hitting it (already had to replace one nozzle!) I thought that routing it to the front sprocket would be neater.

 

[Smythson]

Any pictures of how you fitted it to the front sprocket? I have fitted the twin nozzles but they are a bugger to line up near the sprocket without hitting it (already had to replace one nozzle!) I thought that routing it to the front sprocket would be neater.

I only did the single nozzle to the outer surface. It's held in place by the tension of the tube being secured against the frame...

Hope helps,

S

 

[thomo57]

+1 for the lube tube, I've got mine in the rear compartment (OK if you have no alarm fitted)

 

[dem]

pro-oiler install on the twins?

Pointed this direction from advrider, however my searches have turned nothing interesting up for the twins (lots related to the thumpers.)

Anyone done a pro-oiler install on a F800GS/F650GS twin?

Looking for where you tapped the speedo signal, how you mounted the luber nozzle, etc.

Thanks from California!
dem

 

[Smythson]

Hi Dem,

Welcome to ukgser! I'm afraid i can't help too much with this one - i've read nearly all the twins posts (i did a lot of research before buying a GS!) and haven't seen this one on here. I think most people use the normal Scottoiler or if after this type of system would use the Scottoiler eSystem...

However with regard to tapping the speedo - you may not have to. The accessory socket that sits atop the battery has three numbered wires - neg (1), pos (3) and a timing/speed pulse (2). You'd have to double check with one of the sparky's among us but could that be used?

Best of luck,

S

 

[aspiring]

its a good idea to do a weekly check on your mountings for those twin injectors,they have a habit of throwing themselves through the rear sprocket. DAMHIK

 

[artig]

I installed the pro-oiler on an F650GS a couple of years ago. Instead of tapping the speedo signal I used a magnet on the rear brake disk and a reed switch on the swingarm. The bracket for the nozzle was fitted in the rear chain guard mount, after cutting a suitable slot in the plastic chain guard.

For some reason the first two nozzles wore out very quickly, but the current one has lasted reasonably well. The bike has now done about 33,000km with the oiler installed and on the same chain, and with the chain only needing to be adjusted once or twice.

The other problem is that oil is sprayed everywhere on the rear of the bike. I turned down the amount of oil supplied, but it's still almost impossible to keep the rear of the bike reasonably clean.

 

[nig5]

Thanks for the pics that`s more or less how I was thinking of doing it.
I do check the twin injectors every ride as they can move and get chewed up by the chain, I only fitted them to get more lube to the inside of the chain, during last winter all the salt and crap on the road wasn`t doing the chain any favours!