I fitted a vacuum one to my 650 Twin about 1000Kms ago. Took me an hour to fit. Scottoiler do a specific one for the 650/800 which is a very neat fit. Definitely a good idea. I haven't even used a 1/3 of a filling yet, and the chain is properly lubricated with minimal spotting. An absolute no brainer, first thing to fit!
► Chains, oilers, sprockets
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Thanks guy's,
I will be doing 400 to 500 miles a week (80mile round trip to work) all roads. so I guess one refill would last a couple of weeks...
how many reservoir refills do you get from a 500ml bottle?
Also anyone using chainsaw oil or similar?
Fit a Scottoiler + Lubetube and you can get loads of miles inbetween fill-ups.
I had OEM chain & sprckets replaced under the chain recall at 8,00 miles, it's just nearing end of life now, at 30,000. I'm sure they would'nt have lasted as long without the Scottoiler!
I've got the vacuum operated RMV and a Lubetube in the rear compartment and it works fine, it sucks every last drop out! even though the fitting instructions tell you it should not be higher than the RMV
Did a trip to the French Alps and after 2,700 miles it had emptied the Lubetube and RMV was just below half way mark.
I had OEM chain & sprckets replaced under the chain recall at 8,00 miles, it's just nearing end of life now, at 30,000. I'm sure they would'nt have lasted as long without the Scottoiler!
I've got the vacuum operated RMV and a Lubetube in the rear compartment and it works fine, it sucks every last drop out! even though the fitting instructions tell you it should not be higher than the RMV
Did a trip to the French Alps and after 2,700 miles it had emptied the Lubetube and RMV was just below half way mark.
I've the vSystem and i'm happy with it. I commute a similar distance and do not keep a spotless bike so a bit of spatter doesn't bother me. Riding over the winter whilst grit was down has taken its toll on the outside of the outer plates but the inside parts are perfect. I would recommend the front sprocket install for ease. I and a couple of others have found no ill effects.
I'm afraid i'm not really organised enough to have checked how much i use per mile or even month
As to chainsaw oil - i asked the same question a couple of months back and got zero response so tried some myself. The first stuff i used was an old bottle i had from Homebase that was slightly thicker and then a bumper 5 litres off eBay that was spot on. (I did a very scientific test of an equal size drop of each on a level piece of cardboard, then tip to see which runs quickest) Both work just fine and as i recall the eBay stuff was about 20% of the cost of Scottoiler refills, so for the sake of some dye it's got my vote
Hope you're enjoying the return to two wheels,
S
I'm afraid i'm not really organised enough to have checked how much i use per mile or even month
As to chainsaw oil - i asked the same question a couple of months back and got zero response so tried some myself. The first stuff i used was an old bottle i had from Homebase that was slightly thicker and then a bumper 5 litres off eBay that was spot on. (I did a very scientific test of an equal size drop of each on a level piece of cardboard, then tip to see which runs quickest) Both work just fine and as i recall the eBay stuff was about 20% of the cost of Scottoiler refills, so for the sake of some dye it's got my vote
Hope you're enjoying the return to two wheels,
S
I've the vSystem and i'm happy with it. I commute a similar distance and do not keep a spotless bike so a bit of spatter doesn't bother me. Riding over the winter whilst grit was down has taken its toll on the outside of the outer plates but the inside parts are perfect. I would recommend the front sprocket install for ease. I and a couple of others have found no ill effects.
I'm afraid i'm not really organised enough to have checked how much i use per mile or even month
As to chainsaw oil - i asked the same question a couple of months back and got zero response so tried some myself. The first stuff i used was an old bottle i had from Homebase that was slightly thicker and then a bumper 5 litres off eBay that was spot on. (I did a very scientific test of an equal size drop of each on a level piece of cardboard, then tip to see which runs quickest) Both work just fine and as i recall the eBay stuff was about 20% of the cost of Scottoiler refills, so for the sake of some dye it's got my vote
Hope you're enjoying the return to two wheels,
S
Thanks for the info,could you tell me if the Fleabay chainsaw oil was summer or winter oil, does it have an sae number on it?
when you say front sprocket installation have you used a single or double nozzle assembly?
I am going to look at an F800 GS on Fri (10 plate, white with 2K on the clock)... unless there is somthing horribly wrong with it should be back on 2 wheels next week
RadoR6
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No scott oiler.Was playing with this idea for a while but decided not to go this route.I think cleaning and lubricating the chain from time to time is a perfect opportunity to inspect the chain and other parts.
Fleabay oil says high viscosity 100 cst. No indication of summer/winter. Not sure of the cst measurement system though...
If it helps there's a chap on ADV who reckons Scottoiler blue is equivalent to 20W - 50. I've not tried that and have little knowledge of what the numbers really mean in real life terms so will stick with the chainsaw oil.
I'm using a single nozzle tucked into the sprocket guard and held in place by cable ties. There's pics on an old thread somewhere.
Good luck on the viewing tomorrow,
S
(On an aside, if you do get the 800 and are looking at clocking up some serious commuting miles it may be worth considering a 17T front sprocket off the 650 twin to save on the go juice, it's a direct swap for the 16T on the 800. Though now i suppose i'm getting into the mahoooosive field of upgrades/farkle! )
If it helps there's a chap on ADV who reckons Scottoiler blue is equivalent to 20W - 50. I've not tried that and have little knowledge of what the numbers really mean in real life terms so will stick with the chainsaw oil.I'm using a single nozzle tucked into the sprocket guard and held in place by cable ties. There's pics on an old thread somewhere.
Good luck on the viewing tomorrow,
S
(On an aside, if you do get the 800 and are looking at clocking up some serious commuting miles it may be worth considering a 17T front sprocket off the 650 twin to save on the go juice, it's a direct swap for the 16T on the 800. Though now i suppose i'm getting into the mahoooosive field of upgrades/farkle! )
Fleabay oil says high viscosity 100 cst. No indication of summer/winter. Not sure of the cst measurement system though...
I'm using a single nozzle tucked into the sprocket guard and held in place by cable ties. There's pics on an old thread somewhere.
Good luck on the viewing tomorrow,
S
(On an aside, if you do get the 800 and are looking at clocking up some serious commuting miles it may be worth considering a 17T front sprocket off the 650 twin to save on the go juice, it's a direct swap for the 16T on the 800. Though now i suppose i'm getting into the mahoooosive field of upgrades/farkle! )
100 cst centistrokes... Iv'e got an old NATO defence standards ref book at work & iv'e seen the cst rating in it. Will have to have a look next week, If it is indeed sae 20/50 then Iv'e a load of that (used it in my 850Gs & my Citroen 2CV... well it sorta counts a flat twin aircooled)
v'eYes i read about the 650 front sprocket, I figured I would try it for a couple of months on the 16T one & see how I go (the 850GS & the 2CV both gave me about 45 to 50 MPG).
Shouldn't really mention the "U" word... "lovely shiney precious... buy me, buy me" .... Iv'e already started looking
Ross
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Evening all, after a couple or three years away from Biking I am returning to the dark side (2 wheels good 4 wheels bad!)
Am going to look at an F800gs on Fri(a 2010 with 2K on the clock)
My question is: should I fit a Scott oiler... & if so which one?
All my previous "Herman the germans" have been shaft drive so would welcome any info on this chain drive thingy.
(this old dog is never too old to learn a new trick)
I've had a thread on F650,co,uk about this. I got a Dakar with a Scottoiler and OEM chain at 8700 miles, chain and rear sprocket were shagged and there was a new front sprocket.
I replaced the lot for a DID upgrade kit (grey chain and Sunstar Sprockets). After 8000 miles the chain and sprockets show little wear and have had less than 1mm adjustment on the axle. The outer plates have got rusty over the winter as I had the wrong oil in (red instead of blue) and didn't increase the oil flow when winter came in. There was no rust until the day after the first gritting, which was worsened I think due to an air block in the Scottoiler, plus the wrong grade and lack of flow.
The Scottoiler does seem to work and is a good aid to high milage and lack of effort (I do 800-1500 miles a month all year round and clean and lube 4-6 weeksish).
The downside is a lot of oil on the crankcase/pinion area and back wheel. Plus you've got to fill it up. I think it does three jobs, 1, lubes the sprocket and rollers 2, flushes dirt off the chain (with correct flow rate and oil). 3, lubes and protects the plates. I'm not sure that it creates grinding paste as it is more likely to leave the chain with grit than other types of thicker oil.
I'm not sure, but assume it might work with any oil, such as Wilkinson's Motor Oil at a couple or three quid per 5 litre. The rumours are that Scottoil is Automatic Transmission Fluid, either thick or thin, they claim it is less tacky. If you run a thinnish cheap oil, it's not going to create a grinding paste, it'll keep the chain clean, lubricate the rings, lubricate the rollers, and protect the plates. Wilco's may even have offers on ATF!
I personally think they're a bit overpriced, consider whether 80 + quid + the price of oil is worth saving you the effort of changing a chain costing 40 quid every 8000 miles. Are you going to keep the bike that long? Whoever fitted the Scottoiler to my bike paid for the Scottoiler and the chain was still shagged after 8700 miles!
chas820
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I`m resisting buying one at the moment.I currently use Wurth dry lube as it doesn`t leave a sticky residue for grit to stick to.So far the chain has done 6000 mls without signs of wear.It`s sprayed every 300 miles or so.
I am now the proud owner of a 2010 with 2K miles F800GS
I have decided not to fit a scott oiler at this time, and will use a dry lube spray & see how I get on with that. I have heard that Beemer has fitted "upgraded chains to bikes from 2010, any truth in this rumour?
Not for me I'm afraid 
There are those that swear by them ... and those that swear at them
Done 67,000+ miles on my F800GS
Use original sprockets with DID Gold Professional HD chain and a good chain spray as and when. Will do between 20,000 to 30,000 miles on this set up before being renewed.
Suits me just fine
There are those that swear by them ... and those that swear at them
Done 67,000+ miles on my F800GS
Use original sprockets with DID Gold Professional HD chain and a good chain spray as and when. Will do between 20,000 to 30,000 miles on this set up before being renewed.
Suits me just fine
Not for me I'm afraid
There are those that swear by them ... and those that swear at them
Done 67,000+ miles on my F800GS
Use original sprockets with DID Gold Professional HD chain and a good chain spray as and when. Will do between 20,000 to 30,000 miles on this set up before being renewed.
Suits me just fine
And you can't get a better recommendation, or it that non recommendation, than that.
I'm with Micky on this.
No Scott for me, although I do wear their goggles.
My old fashioned F650GS single is now up to 7,500 miles without so much as a chain adjustment.
Dave Ett
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I think it all comes down to your diligence. If you can't be bothered to grovel on the floor as often as you should with a can of lube, then Scottoil.
Cheers Hustler
I always change the chain and sprockets at the same time
I use the Polo chain spray as given the thumbs up by the German Mags. No flinging off, the back of my 800 is cleaner than your average 1200's
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Not on a GS but I get around 6000 - 7000 kms from a lubetube and oiler. Great bit of kit I believe.
Cheers Hustler
I always change the chain and sprockets at the same time
I use the Polo chain spray as given the thumbs up by the German Mags. No flinging off, the back of my 800 is cleaner than your average 1200's
You got a UK supplier for that lube Micky?
shaunj
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I have a scott oiler and think its great apart from the mess however oiley things don't rust so not too bothered by it.
Recently fitted the dual injector and took it on its first offroad ride with the DI fitted, long story short lost the inside nozzle and the outer nozzle was about 5mm off the sprocket, so not too impressed by its durability. I think a more solid bracket is needed not the flimsy plastic supplied.
Recently fitted the dual injector and took it on its first offroad ride with the DI fitted, long story short lost the inside nozzle and the outer nozzle was about 5mm off the sprocket, so not too impressed by its durability. I think a more solid bracket is needed not the flimsy plastic supplied.
You got a UK supplier for that lube Micky?
Afraid not but I do believe it can be bought over here. I buy it while over in Wunderbar Deutschland, bringing a few cans back with me each time
It doesn't fling off and gets all the accolades in the German motorcycling press
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